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Had to do this last year after getting flagged for identity verification. Bring everything others mentioned but also consider bringing your W-2s or 1099s if you have them - they didn't ask for mine but the person next to me needed theirs. The staff was actually really helpful and walked me through what they needed. One tip: park at a nearby garage if you're in a city location because IRS building parking fills up fast, especially on Mondays and Fridays. Whole process took about 40 minutes and my refund showed up 6 business days later!
Super helpful to know about the W-2s! I'll definitely bring mine just in case. The parking tip is clutch too - nothing worse than being late to an appointment because you're circling the block looking for a spot. 6 days for your refund to show up is pretty encouraging! Did you get any kind of confirmation at the appointment that everything went through okay, or did you just have to wait and see?
Just went through this process a couple weeks ago! In addition to what everyone mentioned, I'd recommend bringing a printed copy of your online account transcript if you have access to it - the IRS agent said it helped speed things up since they could see my filing history right there. Also, dress business casual if possible - I know it sounds silly but the security and staff seemed to take me more seriously vs the person before me in flip flops and a tank top. My appointment was at 10am and I was out by 10:35, refund hit my account exactly 8 days later. The whole thing was way less stressful than I built it up to be in my head!
This is so reassuring! I've been putting off scheduling my appointment because I was overthinking it, but hearing that it was way less stressful than expected really helps. The transcript tip is brilliant - I'll definitely print that out. And lol at the dress code advice, but honestly it makes sense. People probably judge you less seriously if you show up looking like you're heading to the beach. 8 days for your refund is pretty quick too! Did they give you any paperwork at the end or confirmation that you were all set?
don't forget about the safe harbor rules that can help you avoid penalties: 1. If you pay 100% of last year's tax liability (or 110% if your AGI was over $150k), you're safe from penalties regardless of your current year income 2. If you pay 90% of current year tax liability in equal installments, you're good 3. If you owe less than $1,000 after subtracting withholdings and credits, no penalty these saved me when my income jumped from like $90k to $250k last year lol
The 110% rule has been a lifesaver for me too. But quick correction - it's 110% if your AGI was over $150k for married filing jointly or $75k for single or married filing separately.
Thanks for laying out those safe harbor rules! That 110% rule is really helpful to know. For someone like the OP with seven-figure income, paying 110% of last year's tax would definitely be the safest approach to avoid any penalty headaches. Much simpler than trying to perfectly time quarterly payments when income is unpredictable.
Another thing to consider with your seven-figure income is that you might want to work with a tax professional who specializes in high-income situations. The underpayment penalty calculations can get complex, especially when you're dealing with alternative minimum tax (AMT), which often kicks in at higher income levels. The AMT can significantly change your required quarterly payment amounts, and the standard safe harbor calculations might not account for this properly. A good tax pro can help you model different scenarios and potentially use strategies like the annualized income method even if it seems complicated - it might save you thousands in penalties. Also, since you mentioned substantial income, make sure you're considering estimated payments for any state taxes too. Some states have their own underpayment penalty rules that don't necessarily align with federal requirements.
Great point about working with a tax professional for high-income situations! I'm definitely feeling overwhelmed trying to navigate this on my own. Do you have any recommendations for finding someone who specializes in seven-figure income scenarios? I've been working with a regular CPA but I'm starting to think I need someone with more experience in this income range, especially with the AMT complications you mentioned. Also, you're absolutely right about state taxes - I completely forgot about those! My state does have its own estimated payment requirements and I have no idea if they align with federal timing or not.
I'm at week 2 with my amended return to add my son's SSN for the child tax credit - filed through H&R Block after we finally received his social security card following some delays with getting his birth certificate processed first. Just starting this journey but already feeling anxious about the wait ahead! This entire thread has been incredibly eye-opening and honestly such a relief to find! I was naively thinking the IRS's 16-week estimate was realistic, but clearly from everyone's experiences here, 20-30 weeks is much more accurate. It's helpful to know what I'm really in for so I can stop obsessively checking that tracker expecting quick updates. What's most reassuring is hearing from so many people that adding a dependent's SSN is routine and considered low-risk for audit. As someone completely new to tax amendments, I was worried this might automatically trigger problems or extra scrutiny, but it sounds like this type of correction is very standard and straightforward. I'm going to dig through my H&R Block paperwork to find those processing center codes everyone mentioned - really hoping mine doesn't end up at Austin or Kansas City based on what I'm reading about their backlogs! It's also good to know about resources like the Taxpayer Advocate Service and some of the other tools people have mentioned if I need them down the road. Thanks to everyone for sharing their timelines and experiences. Even though I'm just starting this process, it's oddly comforting to know there are so many of us going through the exact same situation with very similar circumstances. The waiting game begins!
Welcome to the waiting club! I'm at week 19 with my amended return for the same thing - adding my daughter's SSN for the child tax credit after we finally got her social security card post-move. This thread has been a lifesaver for managing expectations. When you're at week 2, that 20-30 week timeline feels overwhelming, but honestly having realistic expectations from the start is so much better than the false hope the IRS website gives you. One thing I wish I'd known earlier - don't bother checking that tracker more than once every few weeks. It literally won't move from "Processing" until it's basically done, so daily checking just causes unnecessary stress. I learned that the hard way after months of obsessive checking! Since you're just starting out, you might want to bookmark some of the resources people mentioned here (like the Taxpayer Advocate Service info) for if you need them later. Hopefully your case moves faster than some of ours have, but it's good to be prepared. Hang in there - we're all in this together!
I'm at week 14 with my amended return to add my daughter's SSN for the child tax credit - filed through TaxSlayer after we finally received her social security card following a move where the paperwork got delayed. Like everyone else here, I've been stuck on that "Processing" status with absolutely no updates. This thread has been such a godsend! I was starting to panic thinking I'd done something wrong since there's been zero movement for months, but seeing so many people in nearly identical situations is incredibly reassuring. Learning that 20-30 weeks is the realistic expectation rather than the misleading 16 weeks the IRS advertises really helps me mentally prepare for the wait ahead. What's been most comforting is hearing from multiple people that adding a dependent's SSN is routine and low-risk for audit. As someone who's never filed an amendment before, I was getting anxious that this might trigger extra scrutiny, but it sounds like this type of correction is very common and straightforward. I'm definitely going to check my TaxSlayer confirmation for those processing center codes everyone mentioned to see where mine ended up - really hoping it didn't get sent to one of the severely backed-up centers like Austin or Kansas City! Since I'm getting closer to that 20-week mark, it's good to know about the contact options and resources like the Taxpayer Advocate Service if needed. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences and timelines. It's oddly reassuring to know we're all going through this same frustrating waiting game together with such similar situations. The waiting continues!
I'm at week 1 with my amended return to add my son's SSN for the child tax credit - just filed through TurboTax after finally getting his social security card sorted out. Reading through this entire thread as someone brand new to this process has been incredibly helpful! It's honestly a bit overwhelming to learn that 20-30 weeks is the realistic timeline when the IRS website made it sound like 16 weeks was the maximum. But I'd rather know the truth upfront than spend months wondering if something went wrong. What gives me the most peace of mind is seeing how many people are in the exact same situation with adding a dependent's SSN - it really does seem like a routine, straightforward amendment that shouldn't cause any issues. As someone who's never dealt with tax amendments before, I was worried I might have opened up a can of worms! I'm going to check my TurboTax confirmation right away for those processing center codes to see where mine got routed. Fingers crossed it's not Austin or Kansas City based on what everyone's saying about their backlogs. Thanks to everyone for sharing - it's comforting to know I'm not alone in this waiting game, even though I'm just getting started!
Can someone explain in simple terms why we have to do all this backdoor Roth stuff anyway? It seems unnecessarily complicated. Why doesn't the government just let people contribute to Roth IRAs regardless of income? The annual limits are already pretty low.
It's because Roth IRAs were originally designed as a retirement vehicle for middle-income people. The tax benefits are pretty significant since all growth is tax-free, so Congress limited them based on income. The backdoor method exists because there's no income limit on Traditional IRA contributions (though there are limits on deductibility), and there's no income limit on conversions from Traditional to Roth. This loophole has been known for years but Congress has never closed it, essentially making it an approved method. It's definitely more paperwork, but for high-income earners, getting money into a Roth is usually worth the extra steps.
Thanks for explaining, that makes sense. It's just frustrating how everything in the tax code seems designed to create extra hurdles. I get limiting the tax advantages, but this seems like it just creates work for no reason since the backdoor option exists anyway.
I had a very similar situation last year and can confirm what others have said - you handled this correctly! The key thing that helped me understand it was realizing that the recharacterization essentially "undoes" your original Roth contribution and treats it as if you had made a nondeductible Traditional IRA contribution all along. The $450 in earnings that got moved with the recharacterization will indeed be taxable income when you convert it back to Roth in 2024. But this is actually normal - any time you convert from Traditional to Roth, you pay taxes on the growth that happened in the Traditional account. One tip: when you get your 1099-R forms, double-check that the amounts match what you expect. Sometimes brokerages make errors on these forms, especially with more complex transactions like recharacterizations. I had to get mine corrected last year because they initially showed the wrong distribution code. Also, don't forget that your 2024 backdoor Roth conversion ($7,000) is completely separate from all this 2023 recharacterization business, so make sure you're tracking both properly for your 2024 taxes.
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm actually dealing with a similar recharacterization situation right now and I'm nervous about getting the 1099-R forms wrong. When you say to double-check the amounts, what specifically should I be looking for? Are there particular box numbers or codes that are commonly messed up by brokerages? I want to make sure I catch any errors before I file my taxes.
Sophia Rodriguez
As a tax professional, I want to emphasize something important that hasn't been fully addressed - the timing of when your boss can make the S-corp election for it to be effective this year. If he wants the S-corp status to apply to the entire 2025 tax year, he needs to file Form 2553 by March 15, 2025 (2 months and 15 days after the beginning of the tax year). If he files after that deadline, the election won't be effective until January 1, 2026. This is crucial because if he's already been taking "salary" payments in 2025 but the S-corp election isn't effective until 2026, ALL of those payments for 2025 will need to be treated as owner draws for tax purposes, regardless of how they were processed through payroll. Also, once he makes the S-corp election, he'll need to obtain an EIN if the PLLC doesn't already have one, set up proper payroll withholding, and start making quarterly payroll tax deposits. The "reasonable salary" requirement is real - the IRS has been cracking down on S-corp owners who try to minimize their salary to avoid payroll taxes. Given the complexity and potential penalties for getting this wrong, I'd strongly recommend having a qualified tax professional handle the transition, especially since he's already taken payments this year that need to be properly classified.
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Evelyn Xu
ā¢This is exactly the kind of detailed timeline information I was looking for! So if I'm understanding correctly, since we're already in April 2025, my boss has missed the March 15th deadline to make the S-corp election effective for this year. That means if he files Form 2553 now, it won't take effect until January 1, 2026, and all those "salary" payments he's been taking this year will definitely need to be reclassified as owner draws on his 2025 tax return. Is there any way to get an extension on that March 15th deadline, or are we stuck waiting until 2026 for the S-corp benefits to kick in?
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Oliver Schulz
ā¢There are very limited circumstances where the IRS allows late S-corp elections, but they're quite restrictive. The main exception is if you can demonstrate "reasonable cause" for the late filing, which typically means situations completely beyond your control (like natural disasters, serious illness, or reliance on incorrect professional advice). Simply not knowing about the deadline unfortunately doesn't qualify as reasonable cause. However, there is a process called "automatic relief" under Rev. Proc. 2013-30 that allows late elections in specific situations, but it has strict requirements including that the entity must have intended to be classified as an S-corp from the beginning of the tax year. Given that your boss has been operating as a PLLC and only recently started thinking about S-corp status, it would be difficult to argue he intended S-corp treatment from January 1st. Your best bet is probably to plan for the 2026 effective date and make sure all 2025 payments are properly documented as owner draws. A tax professional could review the specific facts to see if any relief provisions might apply, but don't get your hopes up.
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Zainab Ibrahim
I've been following this discussion and want to add a practical perspective as someone who handles payroll for several small businesses. One thing that often gets overlooked is the quarterly payroll tax filing requirements once you make the S-corp election. As an S-corp, your boss will need to file Form 941 quarterly and make federal tax deposits (often monthly or semi-weekly depending on the payroll amount). This is in addition to state payroll tax requirements. Miss these deadlines and you're looking at penalties that can quickly eat into those self-employment tax savings everyone's talking about. Also, regarding the "reasonable salary" discussion - I've seen the IRS audit several S-corp owners in our area, and they seem to focus on businesses where the salary is less than 40-50% of the business profit. While there's no hard rule, that seems to be a red flag threshold. For a law practice with $150k profit, paying a $40-50k salary and taking the rest as distributions would probably be defensible, but paying $25k and taking $125k in distributions would likely attract unwanted attention. The paperwork burden is real - beyond just the tax return complexity, you're now dealing with W-2s, payroll tax returns, and proper documentation requirements. Make sure your boss factors in the time cost of all this additional compliance work when calculating whether the tax savings are worth it.
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Anastasia Popova
ā¢This is really helpful practical insight! I hadn't thought about the ongoing quarterly filing requirements at all. My boss is already pretty busy with his legal practice, so the additional administrative burden is definitely something we need to factor in. The 40-50% salary guideline you mentioned is actually really useful - that gives us a concrete range to work with rather than just the vague "reasonable salary" requirement. For a $150k profit law practice, a $60-75k salary would probably be more defensible than the lower amounts we were considering. Do you happen to know if there are any payroll services that specialize in S-corp owners? It sounds like we'd probably want to outsource this rather than trying to handle all the quarterly filings and deposit schedules ourselves.
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