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Just wanted to add that I had the exact same codes (971 and 570) last year when I filed in February. Like others mentioned, it was just a routine review - they were verifying my dependent information since I had claimed my nephew for the first time. The waiting is definitely the hardest part, but try to stay patient. One thing that helped me was setting up IRS2Go app notifications so I could check my transcript status without constantly logging into the website. Also, make sure your address is current with the IRS since they'll be mailing you that notice. In my case, the review took exactly 21 days from the 971 date, and then everything processed normally. The notice I received was pretty straightforward and just confirmed they had verified my information. Your situation sounds very routine based on what you've described!

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Thanks for mentioning the IRS2Go app! I didn't even know that existed - I've been manually logging into the website multiple times a day like a crazy person. Definitely downloading that right now. The 21-day timeline you mentioned aligns with what others have said, so that's really helpful for setting expectations. I'm feeling much more confident that this is just routine verification rather than something I need to panic about. Really appreciate everyone in this community sharing their experiences - makes dealing with IRS stuff so much less stressful when you know others have been through the same thing!

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Zara Shah

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I've been helping people with transcript codes for years, and the 971/570 combination you're seeing is honestly one of the most routine ones during tax season. The IRS is essentially saying "we got your return, we're taking a closer look at something, and we'll send you a letter explaining what." Since you filed in February and the 971 is dated 04-15-2024, you're right on schedule for a typical review. The cycle code 20240805 indicates normal processing, not an audit or major issue. Most likely scenarios: they're verifying your W-2 data matches what employers reported, double-checking any credits you claimed (especially if you have kids or claimed education credits), or confirming your filing status. The key thing is that 570 holds usually release automatically once their systems verify everything matches up. You'll see a 571 code appear when the hold lifts, followed by a refund date within a few days. Based on your timeline, I'd expect movement in the next 1-2 weeks. The notice you receive will be pretty basic - usually just confirmation that they reviewed and approved your return.

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This is incredibly thorough and reassuring - thank you so much for breaking it down in such detail! As someone new to dealing with these kinds of codes, having an expert perspective really helps calm my nerves. The timeline you've outlined matches what others have shared, which gives me confidence this is truly routine. I did claim some education credits this year for my part-time graduate program, so that could definitely be what they're verifying. I'll stop obsessively checking my transcript every day and just wait for that 571 code to appear. Really appreciate you taking the time to explain this so clearly!

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Has anyone here used a specific tax form or schedule to report the RSU loss? I'm trying to figure out if this goes on Schedule D or if there's another form I should be using for RSU-specific losses where I couldn't sell immediately due to company restrictions.

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Diego Flores

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This is handled on Schedule D just like any other capital loss. Your RSU income (value at vesting) will be on your W-2, and the sale of shares gets reported on Schedule D. Your cost basis is the value on vesting date (which you already paid income tax on), and your sale proceeds are what you actually received when selling. The difference is your capital gain/loss. There's no special form for RSUs with trading restrictions - it's just a normal capital transaction. Make sure your broker reports the correct cost basis though, sometimes they get this wrong with RSUs.

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Thanks for clearing that up! I was worried there might be some special form I was missing. I'll double check what my broker reports for the cost basis - last year they actually reported it incorrectly and I had to call to get them to fix it.

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Emily Sanjay

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This is such a frustrating situation, but you're definitely not alone in dealing with this! I had a similar experience where my RSUs dropped 20% during a blackout period and I felt like I was being taxed on money that evaporated. One thing that helped me was working with my tax preparer to make sure I was tracking everything correctly. Since you're dealing with both income tax on the vesting value AND capital losses on the sale, it's important to keep detailed records of: 1. The exact vesting date and share price 2. The date restrictions were lifted 3. Your actual sale dates and proceeds 4. Any shares you're still holding Also, don't forget that if your total capital losses exceed $3,000 in a year, you can carry the excess forward to future tax years. Given how volatile some stocks have been lately, those carried-forward losses might come in handy for offsetting future gains. It really is an unfair system when you're essentially penalized for company policies you have no control over, but at least the capital loss treatment helps offset some of the pain. Hang in there!

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This is really helpful advice, especially about keeping detailed records! I'm just starting to deal with RSUs at my new job and this thread has been eye-opening. I had no idea about the potential for being taxed on value you can't actually access due to trading windows. One question - when you mention carrying forward capital losses, is there a limit to how many years you can carry them forward? I'm wondering if it makes sense to try to time when I realize other capital gains to take advantage of the losses from RSU drops. Also, does anyone know if there are any proposed changes to how RSUs are taxed? It seems like this situation affects a lot of people, especially with so many companies going public and having insider trading restrictions.

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Carmen Vega

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Has anyone here dealt with allocation of shared utilities in a situation like this? I'm in a similar position with a commercial/residential mixed building and I'm confused about how to handle common area utilities when part is business and part is personal.

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Zara Mirza

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For shared utilities, you'll need a reasonable allocation method consistently applied. Square footage is most common - if your personal space is 30% of the building, you'd allocate 30% of common utilities as personal (non-deductible) and 70% as business expense. Some property owners install separate meters when possible, which makes documentation cleaner. For things that can't be separately metered, keep detailed records of your allocation methodology. The IRS wants to see that you're using a reasonable, consistent approach rather than arbitrary assignments.

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One thing I'd strongly recommend is getting everything documented properly from the start. When we did a similar conversion, our CPA advised us to create a formal "conversion plan" that outlined exactly when each unit would transition from business to personal use, along with the square footage allocations. This documentation became crucial later when we had questions about which improvements qualified for depreciation. We included photos of the property before improvements, detailed cost breakdowns for each area, and a timeline of when different spaces would change use. Also, consider whether you want to elect out of bonus depreciation for some of these improvements. While bonus depreciation gives you bigger deductions upfront, it can create complications if you convert units to personal use shortly after. Sometimes taking regular depreciation over the longer schedule gives you more flexibility, especially with mixed-use properties like yours. Your accountant will probably want to see all this documentation, so getting it organized now will save you time and potentially money in professional fees later!

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Drake

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This is really helpful advice about documentation! I'm just starting to research this topic since my family is considering a similar situation. Quick question - when you mention "electing out of bonus depreciation," is that something you do on a property-by-property basis or improvement-by-improvement basis? And does that election have to be made in the first year you place the improvements in service, or can you make that choice later? I want to make sure I understand the timing before we start any work.

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Ethan Brown

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I had a very similar situation with my dissolved partnership and want to share what worked for me. Like you, I thought no filing was needed for a year with zero activity, but learned the hard way that the IRS still requires that final return. Here's the exact process I followed that got my penalties fully waived: 1. Filed Form 1065 for the dissolution year with all financial lines showing zeros 2. Checked the "Final Return" box prominently at the top of Form 1065 3. Prepared Schedule K-1s for each partner marked as "Final K-1" 4. Included a separate statement with the business name, EIN, and exact dissolution date For the penalty abatement, I wrote a detailed reasonable cause letter explaining that I had carefully read the Form 1065 instructions and genuinely believed no return was required when there was no income, expenses, or business activity. I emphasized that this was an honest misunderstanding of the tax code, not willful neglect. The IRS accepted my explanation and waived all penalties (which would have been over $2,000). The key is being thorough in your documentation and showing you made a good faith effort to comply based on your understanding of the rules. Don't let that IRS rep confuse you about amending 2019 - you definitely need to file the 2020 return as your final return since that's when you actually dissolved. Good luck!

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Chloe Green

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing the exact steps you took! I'm in a very similar boat with my dissolved LLC and have been worried about the potential penalties. A couple of quick questions: How long did it take for the IRS to process your final return and respond to your reasonable cause letter? And did you send everything together in one package or file the return first and then submit the penalty abatement request separately?

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Nia Williams

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Great question! I sent everything together in one package - the final 1065 return, K-1s, dissolution statement, and reasonable cause letter all at the same time. I figured it would be more efficient than filing separately and potentially having to deal with automatic penalty notices in the meantime. The whole process took about 3-4 months from when I mailed everything to when I received their final letter accepting the penalty abatement. I got an initial acknowledgment that they received my filing after about 6 weeks, and then the penalty abatement approval came about 6-8 weeks after that. One tip: I sent everything certified mail with return receipt so I had proof of delivery and the exact date they received it. This helped when calculating penalty amounts in my reasonable cause letter. Also make sure to keep copies of everything - the IRS asked for additional documentation about the dissolution date, and having everything organized made responding much easier.

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I went through this exact same situation with my LLC that dissolved in 2019. The confusion about whether to file when there's zero activity is incredibly common - the IRS instructions really aren't clear on this point. You absolutely need to file a 2020 Form 1065 marked as a final return. Even though you had no income or expenses, the IRS needs this filing to officially close your business in their system. Without it, they'll keep expecting annual returns indefinitely. Here's what I learned from my experience: - File Form 1065 for 2020 with zeros in all financial fields - Check the "Final Return" box at the top - Include K-1s for both members marked as final - Attach a statement with your dissolution date and explanation For penalties, you have an excellent case for reasonable cause abatement. I successfully got mine waived by explaining that I genuinely misunderstood the filing requirements based on reading the instructions. The key is emphasizing that you made a good faith effort to understand your obligations. Ignore that IRS rep's suggestion about amending your 2019 return - that makes no sense. The final return needs to be for the year you actually dissolved (2020). I've seen other people in this forum successfully resolve similar situations, so don't stress too much about the late filing.

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Ava Thompson

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This is such a timely question! I just went through this exact situation for my 2024 taxes. I'm registered in Texas but placed winning bets while traveling for work in Nevada, Louisiana, and Arizona. After consulting with a tax professional, here's what I learned: technically, you're supposed to file nonresident returns in each state where you physically placed winning bets, regardless of where you're registered with the app. The key factor is your physical location when the bet was placed, not your registration address. However, the enforcement is still inconsistent. Some states are getting more aggressive about tracking this (especially states with higher tax rates who want their piece), while others haven't caught up yet. The apps do track your location for regulatory compliance, and this data is increasingly being shared with state tax authorities. For your situation, I'd recommend keeping those detailed records you mentioned and filing properly in each state where you had significant winnings (maybe $500+ threshold). You can then claim credits on your Ohio return for taxes paid to other states to avoid double taxation. If we're talking smaller amounts, the risk might be low, but with the trend toward more enforcement, it's probably safer to file correctly from the start. The hobby vs. professional distinction doesn't change the sourcing rules - winnings are still taxable where the activity occurred regardless of how you classify your gambling activities.

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm curious about that $500+ threshold you mentioned - is that an official guideline or just a practical rule of thumb? I've been tracking everything meticulously but some of my individual state winnings are in the $200-400 range. Also, when you say the apps share location data with tax authorities, do you know if that's automatic reporting or only during audits? I want to make sure I'm being compliant but also don't want to file unnecessary returns if the risk is truly minimal for smaller amounts.

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Diego Chavez

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The $500+ threshold I mentioned is more of a practical rule of thumb that many tax professionals use rather than an official guideline - it's based on the cost-benefit analysis of filing multiple state returns versus the potential penalty risk for smaller amounts. Each state technically has its own filing requirements regardless of amount. Regarding the data sharing, it varies by state and app. Some states have formal information sharing agreements with the major betting platforms (like Nevada and New Jersey), while others only request this data during audits or investigations. The trend is definitely moving toward more automatic reporting though - similar to how casinos report W-2Gs for certain winnings thresholds. For your $200-400 range winnings, I'd suggest checking the specific filing requirements for each state. Some states like Pennsylvania require filing for any amount, while others have higher thresholds. You might also consider consulting with a tax professional who specializes in multi-state returns - the cost of professional advice could be worth it given the complexity and potential future enforcement trends.

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ShadowHunter

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Based on my experience dealing with this exact issue, the answer is unfortunately "it depends" on several factors. The general rule is that gambling winnings are taxable in the state where you were physically located when placing the bet, not where you're registered with the app. However, there are some practical considerations: 1. **Amount matters**: For smaller winnings (under $500-1000 per state), many tax professionals suggest the enforcement risk is relatively low and you might choose to report everything on your home state return. 2. **State-specific rules**: Each state has different filing thresholds and requirements. Some require filing for any amount, others have minimum thresholds. 3. **Documentation**: Since you're already keeping detailed records showing where each bet was placed, you have the information needed to file correctly if you choose to do so. 4. **Hobby vs. Professional**: This classification doesn't change the sourcing rules for where winnings are taxable, but it does affect how losses can be deducted and reported. My recommendation would be to check the specific filing requirements for each state where you had winnings over $300-500, and consider filing nonresident returns for those states. You can then claim credits on your Ohio return for taxes paid to other states to avoid double taxation. The trend is definitely moving toward more enforcement as states get better at tracking mobile betting data, so filing correctly from the start might save you headaches later.

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Aisha Rahman

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive breakdown I was looking for! The $300-500 threshold as a practical guideline makes sense from a risk/cost perspective. I'm particularly interested in your point about the trend toward more enforcement - have you seen any specific examples of states going after mobile betting winnings retroactively, or is this more about preparing for future audits? Also, when you mention claiming credits on the Ohio return for taxes paid to other states, do you know if Ohio has any specific limitations on gambling-related tax credits? I want to make sure I understand the mechanics of avoiding double taxation before I start filing multiple state returns.

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