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Melissa Lin

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Have you tried checking your refund status through the IRS2Go app instead of the website? Sometimes they show different information. Also, ever notice how the WMR tool and your transcript can show completely different statuses? I've had situations where WMR showed nothing but my transcript had the DDD. Might be worth checking both places if you haven't already.

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I'm in the exact same situation! DDD of 3/27 on my transcript with code 846, but still nothing in my checking account as of this morning. I use a local credit union and they usually post federal deposits around midnight, so I've been checking obsessively. Reading through these comments is actually really helpful - I didn't realize banks had such different processing schedules for federal payments. I'm going to call my credit union tomorrow to ask about their specific timing for IRS deposits. It's reassuring to know I'm not the only one waiting though. The anticipation is killing me since I need to pay some bills, but sounds like we just need to be patient for a few more days.

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Maya Jackson

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Has anyone used TurboSelf-Employed for this kind of situation? I'm trying to decide if I should pay for that version this year or just use the regular one.

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I used TurboSelf-Employed last year for my startup expenses and it worked great. It has a specific section for business startup costs that walks you through everything. Worth the extra cost IMO.

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StarSailor

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Great question! I went through this exact situation when starting my consulting business. You definitely CAN deduct those professional development expenses even before officially registering your LLC, as long as they're clearly business-related. The key is establishing clear business intent. Keep detailed records showing why these courses are necessary for your specific business venture - save course descriptions, your notes about how they relate to your business plan, and any communications about your startup plans. One thing I learned the hard way: consider getting your EIN (Employer Identification Number) early, even before full LLC registration. It's free directly from the IRS website and helps establish your business timeline. You can often get this while your state registration is still processing. Also, don't forget that startup costs have that $5,000 first-year deduction limit (with the rest amortized over 15 years), so if these courses plus other startup expenses might exceed that threshold, timing could matter for tax planning purposes. The peace of mind from taking the courses when you need them usually outweighs the minor administrative complexity of pre-registration expenses. Just document everything thoroughly!

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This is really helpful advice! I hadn't thought about getting an EIN early - that's a great tip for establishing the business timeline. Quick question though: when you say "minor administrative complexity," what specific challenges did you run into with documenting pre-registration expenses? I want to make sure I'm prepared for any potential headaches during tax time. Also, did you end up hitting that $5,000 startup cost limit in your first year? I'm trying to estimate if my courses plus other startup expenses might push me over that threshold.

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StarGazer101

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This has been such an educational thread for me as well! I just received my first W-2 after starting my career and was completely overwhelmed by all the different codes and numbers. My employer uses "HLTH-PREM", "DENT-VIS", and "PARK-PASS" in Box 14, and I spent an entire weekend trying to decode what I thought were official IRS designations. The distinction between Box 12 (standardized IRS codes) and Box 14 (employer's custom tracking labels) has been a total revelation! It explains perfectly why I couldn't find any of my company's codes in official tax documentation - they're just internal abbreviations my employer created for their own bookkeeping system. I just followed the verification method that everyone's been recommending: took my final December pay stub and calculated gross wages minus all pre-tax deductions (401k, health insurance, dental/vision, parking). The result matches my Box 1 wages exactly, which is such a relief! What struck me most about this discussion is how universal this confusion seems to be among new workers. Almost everyone here had the same initial panic about not being able to find their Box 14 codes in official IRS materials. This thread should definitely be shared more widely - it could prevent so many people from unnecessary stress when they receive their first W-2 or switch to a new employer with different coding systems. Thank you to everyone who took the time to explain this so clearly. You've transformed what felt like an overwhelming tax mystery into something completely understandable!

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Emma Davis

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This thread has been absolutely incredible! As someone who just entered the workforce and got my first W-2, I was having the exact same panic attack about Box 14 codes. My employer uses "MED-CVG", "DENT-CVG", and "TRANSIT" in Box 14, and I literally spent hours thinking I was missing some crucial tax knowledge because I couldn't find these anywhere in IRS documentation. The lightbulb moment for me was understanding that Box 14 is essentially just a "miscellaneous notes" section where each employer can write whatever they want using their own made-up abbreviations. It's not connected to any official tax codes - it's just their way of showing you what deductions they took from your pay throughout the year. I just did the verification math everyone's been sharing (final pay stub gross wages minus all pre-tax deductions = Box 1 wages) and everything matches perfectly! What a huge relief to know my employer didn't make any errors and I can file my taxes confidently. This discussion has been such a gift to newcomers like me. The collective wisdom here has turned what felt like an impossible puzzle into something totally manageable. Thank you all for being so generous with your knowledge - this thread deserves to be bookmarked by anyone dealing with their first W-2!

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This thread has been absolutely amazing to read through! As someone who's been working for a few years but always just trusted that my W-2 was correct without really understanding it, I've learned so much from everyone's explanations. What really resonates with me is how this Box 14 confusion seems to be a rite of passage for almost every new worker. I remember having the same panic years ago when my employer used "HLTH" and "DENT" in Box 14, but I never took the time to really understand what was happening. I just filed my taxes and hoped for the best! The verification method everyone's sharing (comparing your final pay stub to your W-2 using gross wages minus pre-tax deductions = Box 1) is something I wish I had known about earlier. I just tried it with my current W-2 and it's spot on - such a simple way to confirm everything is accurate. For anyone reading this thread, I'd also add that it's worth keeping a copy of your final pay stub from each year specifically for this verification purpose. It makes tax time so much less stressful when you can quickly double-check that your W-2 numbers are correct rather than just wondering if your employer made mistakes. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion - you've created an incredible resource that's going to help so many people understand their W-2s better!

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6 I had the exact same problem last year! My income ended up being higher than expected and I had already maxed out my Roth IRA. What I did was call my brokerage (Fidelity in my case) and specifically ask for a "return of excess contribution." They had me fill out a simple form specifying which contribution was in excess and they calculated the earnings on that contribution. They withdrew both amounts, sent me a 1099-R showing the distribution, and I reported it all on my taxes. The earnings portion was taxable for the year I received the distribution, and I had to pay a 10% early withdrawal penalty on those earnings, but it was WAY better than continuing to pay 6% on the whole contribution amount every year. The hardest part was just making the phone call! After that, the brokerage handled everything. Problem solved.

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1 Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you need to provide any specific documentation to your brokerage to prove the contribution was excess? Or did they just take your word for it and process the request?

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6 They didn't require any documentation at all. I just had to tell them which contribution I wanted treated as excess (in my case it was the whole annual contribution). They have all the records of your contributions already in their system. They did warn me that the calculation of earnings might result in different numbers than I expected, especially if the market had gone up or down significantly since the contribution. In my case, the earnings portion was actually negative because the market had dropped after my contribution, which was actually better for tax purposes since I didn't have to pay tax on earnings that didn't exist.

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This is such valuable information! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation right now where I made an excess Roth contribution two years ago and my tax preparer has been filing Form 5329 showing the ongoing 6% penalty each year. Reading through all these responses, it sounds like I need to contact my IRA custodian (Vanguard) ASAP to request a "return of excess contribution" to stop these penalties from continuing. I had no idea this was an option - my tax person never mentioned it as a solution, just kept saying I had to pay the penalty each year. One question though - since it's been two years, will the earnings calculation be more complicated? My account value has fluctuated quite a bit during that time period. Also, should I wait until after I file this year's taxes to request the removal, or can I do it now and then adjust my current year return accordingly? Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this thread has been more helpful than hours of trying to research this on my own!

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Just wanted to add something important - make sure you keep documentation of all your attempts to get the W9 from your landlord. I had a similar situation and the IRS actually questioned my 1099 filing during a review of my return. I was able to show emails requesting the W9 multiple times, which satisfied them that I had made a "reasonable effort." Also, when you do get the W9, verify the TIN (Tax Identification Number) using the IRS TIN matching program if you can. Prevents headaches later if the information turns out to be incorrect!

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Emma Wilson

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How do you access the IRS TIN matching program? Is that something available to small business owners or only for certain types of companies?

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Miguel Silva

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The TIN Matching program is available to all businesses that need to file 1099s, including small business owners. You can access it through the IRS website - just search for "TIN Matching" on irs.gov. You'll need to register for an account and there's a small fee per TIN verification (I think it's around $5 per match). It's especially useful if you're dealing with situations like this where you're not sure about the entity receiving your payments. The system will tell you if the name and TIN combination match IRS records before you file your 1099s. Much better than finding out after filing that the information was wrong!

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Charlie Yang

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I have a home office but my lease is under my personal name, not my LLC. One thing I learned from my accountant is that you should also consider the timing of when you formed your LLC versus when you signed the lease. Since your lease was signed before your LLC existed, you're personally liable for the rent payments (not your LLC), but you can still deduct the business portion as a business expense on your Schedule C. The 1099 requirement still applies because you're paying for business use, even though the lease isn't in your LLC's name. Also, a pro tip - when you do reach out to Pine Valley Properties for the W9, explain that you need it for tax compliance purposes and that it's a standard business requirement. Most property management companies deal with this regularly and should have a process in place. If they seem confused, you can even send them IRS Publication 1220 which explains their obligations as payees.

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This is really valuable information about the timing aspect! I hadn't considered that the lease being signed before the LLC formation would affect things. So even though I'm operating through my LLC now, since the lease predates it, I'm still personally responsible for the rent but can deduct the business portion? One follow-up question - when I do get the W9 from Pine Valley Properties and file the 1099, should the 1099 be issued from me personally or from my LLC? Since the lease is in my personal name but I'm claiming it as a business expense through my LLC, I'm not sure which entity should be listed as the payer on the 1099 form. Also, thanks for the tip about IRS Publication 1220 - that sounds like it could help make the conversation with the property management company much smoother!

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