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Unsure if I should put yes or no to this 1099-K question on TurboTax... confused about reporting threshold!

Hey tax people! I'm doing my own taxes this year and I'm completely stuck on one question. TurboTax is asking me if I received payment for goods or services through a third-party network and I'm honestly not sure how to answer. I sell some handmade stuff on Etsy occasionally, but it's mostly a hobby. Last year I made about $875 total (not counting what I spent on supplies). I know there used to be a $600 reporting threshold for 1099-K forms, but I heard it changed to $5,000 for 2024 filing season? I never received any 1099-K form from Etsy. So should I put "yes" since technically I did receive payments through a third party, or "no" because I'm under the reporting threshold and didn't get a form? Will saying "yes" trigger a bunch of additional questions about business income that I don't need to deal with? Or will saying "no" when I actually did receive some payments get me in trouble? Any help would be really appreciated because I'm trying to file before the deadline and this is holding me up!

I'm a little confused by some of the responses here. The $5,000 threshold is just about whether you get a 1099-K form, not whether you need to report the income. ALL income is taxable regardless of amount or whether you got a tax form. The only exception would be if you're selling personal items at a loss (like used clothes for less than you paid for them). That's not taxable because there's no profit. But if you're making and selling crafts on Etsy, that's income even if it's just $50. The honest answer to the question is "yes" you received payments through a third party network.

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So basically I should just answer "yes" then? I'm just worried about having to fill out a bunch of complicated business forms for what's basically just a hobby that made less than $1000. Will that trigger a full Schedule C or something?

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Yes, you should answer "yes" since you did receive payments through Etsy. When you do that, TurboTax will walk you through some additional questions. Since your situation sounds more like a hobby than a business (based on the small amount and how you described it), you may be able to report it as "Other Income" on Schedule 1 rather than filing a full Schedule C. TurboTax should help determine this based on your answers to their follow-up questions about profit motive and how regularly you engage in this activity.

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Is nobody going to mention the hobby loss rule? If this is truly a hobby (not a profit-seeking activity), you can report the income but you CANNOT deduct any expenses against it anymore. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act eliminated hobby expense deductions. If you're regularly trying to make money from your Etsy store, it might be better to treat it as a business so you can deduct your expenses. Otherwise you're paying tax on the full $875 with no deductions for your supplies.

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Wait, so if I say it's a hobby, I have to pay taxes on the full $875 even though I spent like $400 on supplies? But if I call it a business I can deduct the supplies? This is getting complicated...

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Exactly! That's the trade-off you need to consider. If you treat it as a hobby, you report the full $875 as income with no deductions. If you treat it as a business, you can deduct legitimate business expenses like supplies, but you need to show profit motive and keep good records. For your situation with $875 income and $400 in expenses, treating it as a business would likely save you money tax-wise ($875 - $400 = $475 taxable income vs $875). Just make sure you can demonstrate you're trying to make a profit - things like improving your products, marketing efforts, keeping business records, etc. The IRS looks at whether you operate in a businesslike manner. You'd file a Schedule C for business income/expenses. TurboTax will guide you through this when you answer "yes" to the third-party payment question.

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Got a Notice 54 tax refund check 54 weeks ago, still no explanation from IRS

I'm genuinely confused and a bit worried about this situation. About 54 weeks ago, I received a Notice 54 from the IRS along with a refund check for the previous tax year. The weird thing is, I'm pretty sure I shouldn't have gotten this money back at all! The notice specifically stated: "The amount of the enclosed refund check is different from the amount shown on your return. You should be receiving a notice in a few days that explains why the amount of the check is different..." Well, guess what? It's been over a year and I've never received any explanation whatsoever. I've tried calling the IRS multiple times but can never get through to an actual person. Their automated system is a nightmare and I keep getting disconnected after waiting for 45+ minutes. I'm concerned that they'll suddenly realize their mistake and demand the money back with interest and penalties. The refund was for about $3,200 which seems way too high based on what I calculated on my return. Should I just keep the money? Try to return it somehow? I don't want to spend it and then get hit with a huge bill later. Has anyone dealt with something similar? Any advice would be appreciated!

I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now! Got a Notice 54 about 8 months ago with an unexpected refund of $1,800, and like you, I never received the follow-up explanation letter they promised. What I ended up doing was creating a dedicated savings account just for this money and haven't touched a penny of it. I figure if it was legitimate, great - if not, at least I have it ready to return when they figure out their mistake. The peace of mind is worth it. One thing that helped me was pulling my original tax return and trying to reverse-engineer where the extra money might have come from. In my case, I think they may have adjusted my education credits, but I'm still not 100% sure. Have you tried going line by line through your return to see what might have been recalculated? The IRS phone situation is absolutely maddening - I've probably spent 20+ hours on hold over the past few months with nothing to show for it. Really considering some of these third-party services people are mentioning just to get some answers!

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I'm in almost the exact same boat! Got a Notice 54 refund about 10 months ago for $2,400 that I definitely wasn't expecting, and still no explanation letter despite their promise that one was coming "in a few days." Like others have suggested, I immediately moved the money into a separate high-yield savings account and haven't touched it. At least if they want it back, I'll have it ready plus whatever interest I've earned in the meantime. What's been driving me crazy is not knowing WHY they sent it. I've gone through my return multiple times trying to figure out what they might have adjusted, but I can't pinpoint it. Could be anything from a credit I missed to them correcting some calculation error I made. The phone situation is absolutely hopeless - I've easily spent 30+ hours on hold over the past year with zero success. Based on what people are saying here about those third-party services, I'm seriously considering trying one of them. At this point I just want to know if this money is legitimately mine or if I'm sitting on a ticking time bomb! Has anyone here actually had the IRS come back and demand money from a Notice 54 situation, or do they usually just let it slide if it was their adjustment error?

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I'm curious about this too! From what I've read in this thread, it seems like the IRS can come back and request repayment if it was truly an error, but if it was a legitimate adjustment they made (even if they failed to send the explanation), you should be fine keeping it. The tricky part is figuring out which situation you're in without being able to talk to anyone at the IRS. That's why I'm really interested in trying one of those AI tools people mentioned - seems like it might be the only way to get answers when the phone system is completely broken. @Giovanni Ricci - have you considered trying the taxr.ai thing that Emma and Malik had success with? At least then you d'know if it was a legitimate adjustment or if you need to prepare for them wanting it back. The not knowing is probably the worst part of this whole situation!

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PayPal's New $600 Rule - Will I Face Double Taxation?

I've been trying to understand PayPal's new $600 reporting threshold and I'm confused about potential double taxation issues. I can't seem to figure out these two scenarios: 1. I do freelance design work for a small business and get paid through PayPal. The company sends me a 1099-NEC at the end of the year. With PayPal's new $600 rule, will I essentially get taxed twice? Once from the 1099-NEC from my client and then again because PayPal reports the same income? 2. I occasionally win money on sports betting sites (which send me a 1099-MISC) and withdraw those winnings through PayPal. Will I get double taxed here too? Once by the gambling site and again when PayPal reports the same transactions? If double taxation is happening, shouldn't I avoid PayPal completely and find other payment methods? This change from the old $20,000/200 transaction threshold to the new $600 rule is super confusing for someone like me who isn't a tax expert. Any help would be really appreciated!

Don't forget about state taxes too! Some states haven't adopted the federal $600 threshold and still use the old $20,000/200 transaction limit. California, for example, still uses the higher threshold. This means PayPal might send a 1099-K to the IRS but not to your state tax authority, depending on where you live. Makes everything even more confusing!

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Exactly which states are still using the old threshold? I'm in Maryland and now I'm worried I'm doing this all wrong.

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Great question about state thresholds! As of 2024, several states haven't adopted the federal $600 threshold yet. Besides California (which you mentioned), states like Arkansas, Florida, Massachusetts, Missouri, Mississippi, New Mexico, and Vermont are still using the higher $20,000/200 transaction threshold. Maryland actually DID adopt the federal $600 threshold, so you should be getting state 1099-Ks that match your federal ones. But this is exactly why it's so important to check your specific state's rules - the patchwork of different thresholds makes this whole situation even more complicated. If you're in a state with different thresholds, you might end up with situations where PayPal reports to the IRS but not your state, or vice versa. Always worth double-checking your state's current rules since some are still in transition.

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My employer overwithheld social security tax and is refusing to refund - need advice!

So I'm in a really frustrating situation with my husband's employer right now. He works for this big corporate company that has him working across two different departments, so he gets two separate W-2 forms every year - but both have the identical federal tax ID number since it's the same company. We just discovered they overwithheld his social security tax for 2024, and when I contacted the IRS about it, they told me that when a single employer overwitholds social security, it's 100% the EMPLOYER'S responsibility to issue the refund and provide corrected W-2 forms. Apparently this rule only changes if you have multiple DIFFERENT employers who collectively overwithhold - then you can claim it on your tax return. I tried testing this in FreeTaxUSA software. When I entered both W-2s with the same federal tax ID, no refund showed up. Just out of curiosity, I changed one digit on one of the tax IDs (obviously not planning to file this way!), and suddenly the correct refund amount appeared. We've reached out multiple times to his employer's HR/payroll department. They've actually confirmed that yes, they did overwithhold social security taxes, but they're being completely useless about issuing a refund. Just generic "we'll look into it" responses with no actual timeline or commitment. I'm really worried they're going to drag this out past the April filing deadline. Has anyone dealt with this before? What are our options if they just refuse to fix their mistake?

Has anyone successfully gotten their overwithholding refunded without getting corrected W-2s? My employer admitted they messed up but said they "can't" issue new W-2s because they already filed with the IRS. They offered to just cut me a check directly.

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Be careful with this approach. While getting your money back is good, not having corrected W-2s could cause problems later. Your reported wages to the IRS would show you paid more in Social Security than you actually did (after the refund), which could potentially trigger a discrepancy flag. If they insist they can't issue corrected W-2s (which isn't true - they absolutely can file W-2c forms to correct previously filed W-2s), make sure you get documentation from them acknowledging the overwithholding and the direct refund. Save this for your records in case the IRS ever questions the discrepancy.

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I'm dealing with this exact same issue right now! My employer also overwitheld Social Security tax because I hit the wage cap partway through the year, but they kept deducting from my paychecks anyway. One thing that helped me was calculating the exact amount they owe me and putting it in writing. For 2024, the Social Security wage base is $168,600, so any SS tax withheld on wages above that amount should be refunded. I made a simple spreadsheet showing my cumulative wages by pay period and highlighted exactly when I hit the cap and how much was incorrectly withheld after that point. I also found it helpful to reference IRS Publication 15 (Employer's Tax Guide) when talking to HR. Section 5 specifically covers the Social Security wage base and employer responsibilities. Having that official IRS publication number to cite made them take me more seriously. Don't let them drag this out - you're absolutely right that it's their legal responsibility to fix this, not yours. Keep escalating until you get to someone with actual authority to process the correction. Good luck!

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Can I claim $2000 Child Tax Credit for baby born in September 2024?

My baby was born late in 2024 and was only here for the last 4 months of the year. Does anyone know if I can still claim the full $2000 child tax credit or is it prorated based on how many months they were alive during the tax year?

Don't forget about the additional child tax credit if the $2000 exceeds your tax liability!

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wait whats that? πŸ‘€

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Its the refundable portion - up to $1600 can be refunded even if you dont owe any taxes

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Congratulations on your new baby! πŸŽ‰ Just to add to what others have said - the Child Tax Credit is indeed not prorated by months. As long as your little one was born in 2024 and has a valid SSN, you qualify for the full $2000. The IRS treats it as an all-or-nothing benefit based on the tax year. Also, since you mentioned the baby was born in September, make sure you apply for their SSN ASAP if you haven't already - you'll need it to claim the credit on your return!

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