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Zainab Ibrahim

Which version of TurboTax do I need for complex taxes with rentals and backdoor Roth?

Hey tax people! I'm trying to figure out which TurboTax version I need this year and I'm getting overwhelmed with all our financial stuff. My husband and I both have regular W-2 jobs, but I also do some freelance consulting work from home (getting 1099s). We've been doing backdoor Roth IRAs for both of us, and my husband also does the mega backdoor Roth through his company. Our property situation is a bit complex - we own our primary residence plus two rental properties in different states. We also run part of our house as a short-term rental through Airbnb (using that 14-day STR loophole). We have two kids that we claim, and I need to report some money I'm paying back to my employer this year (need to claim that as a credit). My husband has about $80k CAD in a retirement account in Canada and around $35k CAD in Canadian checking/savings accounts. We do some regular charitable giving, tax loss harvesting in our brokerage accounts, and have the usual HSA, 401k, and student loan stuff. Nothing feels super complicated to us, but when I look at all these different versions of TurboTax, I'm not sure which one handles all these situations. Any advice on which version I should get?

StarSailor

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You'll need TurboTax Premier at minimum, but most likely Self-Employed would be better for your situation. TurboTax Deluxe covers most tax situations including itemized deductions, but it doesn't handle rental properties. TurboTax Premier covers everything in Deluxe plus investments and rental property, which you'll definitely need for your two rentals in different states. However, since you mentioned 1099 consulting income, you'd benefit from TurboTax Self-Employed, which includes everything in Premier plus additional guidance for self-employment income, business expenses, and home office deductions. The backdoor Roth contributions (regular and mega) are handled well in all versions above basic, but the foreign accounts might require additional forms that are included in Premier and Self-Employed. The short-term rental loophole reporting is also better supported in the higher-tier versions.

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Would you say the Premier version is enough if the 1099 work is pretty straightforward? I'm in a similar situation (not the Canadian accounts though) and wondering if I could save some money by not getting Self-Employed.

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StarSailor

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Premier might work if your self-employment situation is very simple with minimal expenses. If you're tracking business expenses, using a home office, or need guidance on quarterly estimated payments, Self-Employed offers more comprehensive support for those areas. Premier will handle the rental properties, investments, and backdoor Roth contributions, but it won't have specialized guidance for self-employment tax issues. Given all the moving parts in your tax situation (multiple income streams, rental properties across states, foreign accounts, STR), Self-Employed would give you more complete coverage and potentially uncover deductions you might miss with Premier.

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Yara Sabbagh

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How does it work with all the different documents? I have like 20+ tax forms and statements. Does it read all of them or do you have to enter stuff manually?

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Paolo Rizzo

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Yara Sabbagh

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Paolo Rizzo

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Update: I decided to try https://taxr.ai since my tax situation is similar to the original post. I was honestly surprised by how helpful it was! I've been using TurboTax Deluxe for years but apparently that was the wrong version for my situation. The AI analyzed my documents and showed me that I needed Self-Employed because of my side gig, and it pointed out several deductions I'd been missing related to my rental property. The analysis specifically mentioned forms I needed for my backdoor Roth contributions that I wasn't handling correctly. What really helped was the document checklist it created - showed me exactly what I still needed to gather before starting my taxes. Now I'm using TurboTax Self-Employed and it's so much smoother with the proper guidance. Definitely saved me more in deductions than what I spent upgrading.

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QuantumQuest

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So I've been in your exact situation for years (minus the Canadian accounts). Called the IRS twice last year to confirm how to handle the backdoor Roth and STR income reporting, and both times got completely different answers from agents. Spent 4+ hours on hold just to get conflicting info! Recently discovered https://claimyr.com which got me connected to an actual IRS agent in under 15 minutes - check out their demo video here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. The agent I spoke with actually specialized in investment and rental reporting and gave me clear guidance on which TurboTax version I needed (Self-Employed in my case) and which specific forms to watch for. For your situation with multiple rentals across states and the Canadian accounts, you definitely want the most comprehensive version. The standard versions often don't include some of the specialized forms you'll need for foreign account reporting.

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Amina Sy

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This sounds like a scam. Why would anyone need to pay to call the IRS? You can just keep calling until you get through. And how would they have agents with different specialties? The IRS just answers general questions.

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QuantumQuest

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I have to admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself because I was desperate to get an answer about reporting my crypto transactions and rental property depreciation. The service actually worked exactly as advertised. I got a call back in about 20 minutes and was connected to an IRS agent who answered all my questions. They confirmed I needed TurboTax Self-Employed for my situation (similar to yours with rentals and side income), and specifically mentioned that the foreign account reporting in your case would require forms that are only available in the Premier or Self-Employed versions. For what it's worth, the agent told me that backdoor Roth contributions often trigger flags if reported incorrectly, so the higher-tier software with better guidance on that is worth it.

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Just FYI if you have rental properties in multiple states you absolutely need the Self-Employed version of TurboTax. I tried using Premier last year and it couldn't handle the multi-state rental situation properly. Had to upgrade mid-process and redo a bunch of work. The Canadian accounts will require FBAR forms if they total over $10,000 (which yours do). Self-Employed handles this better than Premier in my experience. For the backdoor Roth reporting, make sure you're keeping track of your basis with Form 8606. Self-Employed has better guidance on this. The STR loophole (I assume you mean the 14-day rule) also needs to be reported correctly to avoid audit flags.

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Thanks for the specific feedback about the multi-state rentals! That's exactly the kind of info I needed. I didn't realize Premier might struggle with that. Do you know if the Self-Employed version also helps with calculating the proper depreciation for rental properties? We've been claiming depreciation but I'm never sure if we're doing it optimally.

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Yes, the Self-Employed version definitely has better depreciation calculation tools for rental properties. It walks you through different depreciation methods and helps you determine if you should use straight-line or accelerated depreciation based on your situation. It also handles the multi-state rental income allocation much better, which is important since different states have different rules for how rental income is taxed. The software will help you complete the necessary state forms for each property location. For your Canadian accounts, it includes the FBAR filing guidance (FinCEN Form 114) and Form 8938 for foreign financial assets if you meet the reporting thresholds.

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Just so you know, you might want to look at alternatives to TurboTax too. I used H&R Block Premium last year for a very similar situation (3 rental properties, side business, backdoor Roth) and found it handled everything well for a lower price than TurboTax Self-Employed.

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Emma Davis

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I second this! I switched from TurboTax to H&R Block last year and saved about $50 for essentially the same features. They handled my rental properties and 1099 income just fine.

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Based on your complex tax situation, you definitely need TurboTax Self-Employed. Here's why: Your rental properties in multiple states require multi-state tax filing capabilities that only Premier/Self-Employed versions handle well. The Self-Employed version is better for this since you also have 1099 consulting income. For your Canadian accounts ($80k CAD retirement + $35k CAD checking/savings = $115k CAD total), you'll need to file FBAR (FinCEN Form 114) since you exceed the $10,000 USD threshold. Self-Employed includes guidance for these foreign account reporting requirements. The backdoor Roth IRAs (both regular and mega) require careful Form 8606 reporting to avoid double taxation, and Self-Employed has better guidance for these transactions. Your Airbnb STR situation using the 14-day rule needs proper reporting to avoid audit flags - Self-Employed handles short-term rental income better than lower tiers. The consulting work from home likely qualifies for home office deductions, which Self-Employed specializes in calculating correctly. Given all these moving parts (multiple income streams, multi-state rentals, foreign accounts, complex retirement contributions), the Self-Employed version will save you more in properly claimed deductions than the extra cost over Premier. The specialized guidance alone is worth it for your situation.

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