What is natural unemployment and how does it affect my California EDD claim?
So I keep hearing this term 'natural unemployment' thrown around and honestly I don't fully get what it means or how it connects to actually filing with California EDD. I work in construction and layoffs happen pretty regularly between projects - my foreman called it 'just the natural cycle of things' and someone in the crew mentioned natural unemployment like it was a specific thing. Now I'm sitting here with a fresh California EDD claim open and wondering if the TYPE of unemployment I'm experiencing changes how EDD processes my claim or whether I even qualify. Like does California EDD treat 'natural' unemployment differently than being fired or quitting? My claim has been pending for going on 11 days now with no update on UI Online and I can't get a straight answer from anyone. Anyone here have experience with this or can explain what natural unemployment actually means in the context of filing for UI benefits in California?
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Kevin Bell
So 'natural unemployment' isn't really a term California EDD uses in their official paperwork - it's more of an economics concept. Economists break unemployment into a few categories: frictional (between jobs by choice), structural (your skills don't match available jobs), and cyclical (economy slows down). 'Natural unemployment' usually refers to the combination of frictional and structural unemployment that exists even in a healthy economy - basically the baseline level that's always there no matter how good things are. For your California EDD claim purposes, what matters is whether you were laid off through no fault of your own. Seasonal or project-based construction layoffs generally qualify as valid reasons to collect UI benefits.
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Ella Cofer
AuthorOh okay that makes way more sense. So EDD doesn't use that term at all - it's just economics class stuff. My layoff was definitely not my fault, the project wrapped up and there's nothing new lined up for our crew yet.
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Savannah Glover
yeah in construction that's super common and EDD knows it. you should be fine as long as you were laid off and not like walked off the job yourself
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Felix Grigori
Your 11-day pending claim is what I'd focus on right now honestly. Natural unemployment is an economics textbook term - for EDD it's all about the reason you separated from your employer and whether you meet the earnings requirements. Construction layoffs between projects are completely standard and EDD processes tons of them. The pending status could mean they're just verifying your wage info with your employer or it triggered an automatic ID verification. Check your UI Online inbox for any action items because sometimes they need a document and don't send a very obvious notification about it.
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Ella Cofer
AuthorI just checked and there's nothing in my inbox on UI Online. Just shows pending with no explanation. Really frustrating.
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Felicity Bud
same thing happened to me!! pending for like 2 weeks and then one day it just switched to approved with no explanation lol. sometimes it just takes time i guess
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Felix Grigori
If it hits 2 weeks with no movement I'd start pushing harder to get someone on the phone. EDD's online status updates aren't always reliable indicators of what's actually happening with your file.
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Max Reyes
I went through something very similar with a construction layoff last spring and the phone situation trying to reach EDD was honestly maddening. Kept getting the 'we cannot take your call' recording and getting disconnected. A coworker told me about Claimyr (claimyr.com) - it's a service that navigates the EDD phone system and gets you connected to an actual agent. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 that shows exactly how it works. I was skeptical but after 8 days of failed calls I tried it and actually got through to someone who could tell me exactly where my claim stood. Turned out my employer had entered my separation reason incorrectly which was causing the delay.
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Ella Cofer
AuthorWait so the employer can mess up your claim just by entering the wrong thing? That's kind of terrifying. I might look into that Claimyr thing because I've been trying to call for days.
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Mikayla Davison
claimyr worked for me too when i was trying to sort out my adjudication last fall. actually talking to a person makes such a difference
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Adrian Connor
is claimyr legit? i always get nervous about third party stuff when it involves EDD
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Max Reyes
Completely understand the skepticism - I looked it up before trying it. The video demo at the link above shows the whole process. They just navigate the phone queue for you, nothing sketchy about it.
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Aisha Jackson
To actually answer your economics question since it came up - natural unemployment (sometimes called the NAIRU - Non-Accelerating Inflation Rate of Unemployment) hovers somewhere around 4-5% in most economic models. It represents the floor below which unemployment basically can't go without causing inflation. When actual unemployment is above that natural rate, it means there's excess involuntary unemployment happening - like during a recession. This is completely separate from whether YOU qualify for California EDD benefits. Your qualification depends on your base period wages, your reason for separation, and whether you're able and available to work.
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Ella Cofer
AuthorHonestly thank you for explaining the actual economics concept. My foreman made it sound like it was some kind of official EDD category which confused me.
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Savannah Glover
yeah its confusing because the word 'natural' makes it sound like its some kind of policy category but its really just describing how economies work
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Kevin Bell
Right - and the practical takeaway for EDD claimants is that cyclical unemployment (economy slows, projects dry up) is very well understood by EDD and they process those claims routinely. It doesn't put any special burden on you.
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Ryder Everingham
BEEN WAITING 3 WEEKS ON MY CLAIM AND NOBODY CAN EXPLAIN ANYTHING TO ME. EDD will leave you in the dark forever if you let them. Pending pending pending that's all it ever says. I called 47 times in one week - FORTY SEVEN - and got through once only to be told 'it's processing.' What does that even mean?! If you can get anyone on the phone treasure that conversation because it might be weeks before you get another chance.
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Ella Cofer
Author47 times?? That's genuinely exhausting. I'm sorry you're dealing with that. How long did your pending status end up lasting?
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Ryder Everingham
Finally got resolved at week 5. An agent eventually told me my employer had flagged the separation as 'voluntary quit' which was completely wrong. Had to file a DE 1101CZ protest form. Would have been so much faster if someone had just told me that on week one.
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Lilly Curtis
That protest form thing is important - employers can and do misreport separations and it throws everything into adjudication. Good to know.
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Leo Simmons
just want to add for anyone searching this - if you're in construction or any project based industry your layoffs are considered 'lack of work' separations which is about the cleanest reason you can have for an EDD claim. No adjudication, no issues, EDD sees these constantly. The pending status is most likely just routine processing not a sign anything is wrong with your specific claim.
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Ella Cofer
AuthorThis is really reassuring to hear. I was starting to spiral thinking maybe there was some problem with my claim specifically.
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Felicity Bud
lack of work is literally the best thing you can have on your EDD paperwork. my sister had that and hers went through in like 8 days
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Leo Simmons
Yeah 'lack of work' gets the smoothest processing. Issues come up when separation reason is disputed or unclear. Sounds like yours should be fine.
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Lindsey Fry
I actually work in HR for a mid-size company and deal with EDD claims from the employer side fairly often. To clarify the natural unemployment question: in economics, natural unemployment = frictional + structural unemployment. It has zero bearing on EDD claim processing. What EDD cares about is (1) did you earn enough in your base period - roughly the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters, (2) was your separation non-disqualifying - meaning layoff, lack of work, or certain other reasons, and (3) are you able, available, and actively seeking work each week. Construction project-end layoffs check box #2 perfectly. If your earnings were sufficient and you're doing your weekly certifications, you're in good shape.
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Ella Cofer
AuthorThis breakdown is exactly what I needed. I definitely meet the earnings requirements and I've been filing my weekly certifications every Sunday. Should I be logging job search activities even while waiting for the claim to be approved?
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Lindsey Fry
YES absolutely keep your job search log current. You need 3 job search activities per week and EDD can audit past weeks even after approval. Document everything now rather than trying to reconstruct it later.
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Lilly Curtis
The job search requirement catches so many people off guard. 3 per week minimum, logged in your UI Online account. Don't skip this even while claim is pending.
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Saleem Vaziri
wait you need 3 job searches a week?? i thought it was 2. i might have been undercounting this whole time omg
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Lilly Curtis
On the phone situation - I burned through probably 6 days of failed call attempts over two weeks before someone in this forum mentioned Claimyr. Figured I'd try it since nothing else was working. Got connected to an EDD rep who actually pulled up my account while I was on the line and walked me through exactly what was causing my pending status. Turns out there was a wage discrepancy between what I reported and what my employer reported - tiny difference but it had flagged my claim. Got it sorted in one call. The site is claimyr.com if anyone else is drowning in the phone queue.
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Ella Cofer
AuthorA wage discrepancy causing all that - that's wild. I'm definitely going to try Claimyr because I cannot keep calling and getting the busy signal.
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Adrian Connor
does it work for people in adjudication too or just pending claims?
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Lilly Curtis
I believe it works for any situation where you need to actually speak with an EDD rep. Adjudication, pending, disqualification questions - anything that requires a real conversation to resolve.
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Savannah Glover
ok slightly different take here - 'natural unemployment' can also informally mean unemployment that happens through normal life stuff rather than like mass layoffs or economic crisis. Some people use it loosely to mean seasonal work cycles, end of contracts, that kind of thing. In that casual sense your construction situation absolutely fits. But yeah for EDD paperwork the official term is just 'lack of work' or 'layoff.
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Ella Cofer
AuthorThat makes sense - I think my foreman was using it in that casual sense to mean it's just part of how the industry works.
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Aisha Jackson
Right and the economics definition and the casual definition sort of converge on the same idea - it's unemployment that's expected and inherent to how labor markets function rather than a crisis situation.
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Felicity Bud
i never knew any of this stuff before i filed my first claim and honestly the california edd website doesn't explain much. had to figure everything out from forums like this one. the pending limbo is the worst part because you just feel totally in the dark
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Ella Cofer
AuthorCompletely agree - the UI Online portal gives you basically zero information about WHY something is pending. Just the status with no context.
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Felicity Bud
exactly!! like is it a problem or just normal processing?? they don't tell you anything
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Felix Grigori
This is a legitimate design failure of the system. A simple status reason code would save thousands of claimants from unnecessary stress and probably reduce call volume too.
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Saleem Vaziri
okay so random question that spun off from this thread but the 3 job searches per week thing - does applying on Indeed count? like does each application count as one activity or does the whole Indeed session count as one? i've been counting each application separately but now i'm second guessing myself
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Lindsey Fry
Each application to a different employer counts as one separate job search activity. So if you apply to 5 different companies on Indeed in one day that's 5 activities. Just make sure you're logging employer name, position, method of contact, and date for each one.
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Saleem Vaziri
oh thank goodness i've been doing it right then. i was worried i was going to get in trouble for miscounting
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Kevin Bell
Also attending a job fair, visiting a WorkSource California/AJCC center, or doing a job search workshop counts as an activity. Not just applications.
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Mikayla Davison
the natural unemployment economics stuff is interesting context but I want to come back to your actual situation - have you verified that your employer submitted their separation report correctly to EDD? After my own layoff the company accidentally marked my reason as 'personal reasons' instead of 'project completion' and it sent my claim into adjudication for almost 4 weeks. Worth a call to your former HR department just to double check.
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Ella Cofer
AuthorI hadn't even thought about checking with HR directly. That's a good idea - it's a small company so I can probably just text my old boss and ask.
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Mikayla Davison
Yeah for small companies it's often pretty easy to communicate directly. Just ask them to verify they reported 'lack of work' or 'project completion' as the separation reason to EDD.
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Ryder Everingham
This is such an underrated tip. Employer reporting errors cause SO many unnecessary delays and adjudications. EDD doesn't tell you when that's the problem - you just see 'pending' forever.
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Kayla Morgan
Just want to share a positive data point since this thread has a lot of anxiety in it - I had a construction layoff claim last year that was pending for 13 days with zero updates on UI Online. Then on day 14 it approved and all my back payments for the waiting weeks came through at once. Sometimes it really is just processing time and not a sign of a problem. Fingers crossed for you OP.
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Ella Cofer
AuthorThis is genuinely comforting to hear. Day 11 right now so maybe just a few more days of patience.
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Felicity Bud
yes!! this is what happened to me too. just woke up one day and it was approved and the money was there. try not to stress
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Lilly Curtis
The back payment thing is important - once approved you get paid for all certified weeks going back to when your benefit year started. You don't lose money during the pending period as long as you keep filing weekly certifications.
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James Maki
Honestly the whole California EDD phone system should be completely rebuilt from scratch. I've spent collectively probably 30+ hours on hold or getting disconnected across my various claims over the years. The fact that you basically need a third party service like Claimyr just to reliably reach a human agent says everything about how broken the system is. That said Claimyr does work - used it when my last claim went into adjudication and it was the only way I got any actual answers. Video demo is at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if you want to see how it operates before committing.
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Ella Cofer
Author30 hours is insane. I've already wasted probably 4-5 hours on hold and disconnections in just 11 days.
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James Maki
And it doesn't get better the longer you wait - if anything the phone lines get busier when more people are filing during economic slowdowns. The third party route saved me a ton of time on my adjudication situation.
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Adrian Connor
I was skeptical about Claimyr at first too but multiple people in this thread have vouched for it now so maybe worth trying
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Kevin Bell
One more thing on the economics side since you asked - the US natural unemployment rate is generally estimated between 4-5% right now according to most Federal Reserve models. California's natural rate is probably slightly higher given the state's larger share of seasonal and project-based industries like agriculture, construction, and entertainment. When actual unemployment exceeds the natural rate it's usually a sign of cyclical unemployment from an economic downturn. When they're roughly equal the economy is considered at 'full employment' even though millions of people are still technically unemployed. Wild concept when you first think about it.
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Ella Cofer
AuthorIt IS a wild concept - full employment still means millions unemployed. Economics is strange.
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Aisha Jackson
This is why economists and regular people often talk past each other about unemployment. To economists 'natural' unemployment is inevitable and even healthy. To someone waiting on an EDD payment it's very much not natural feeling.
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Lilly Curtis
For anyone landing on this thread through search: California EDD does not distinguish between 'natural unemployment' and other types when processing claims. Your claim is evaluated on (1) sufficient base period wages, (2) a non-disqualifying reason for separation, and (3) ongoing able-and-available status plus job search compliance. If you had a construction layoff or any other project-end separation, log it as 'lack of work' and you should have no issues. Keep filing weekly certifications no matter what your claim status shows.
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Ella Cofer
AuthorSaving this comment - really clean summary of what actually matters for the claim.
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Savannah Glover
yeah this should honestly be pinned. so many people come in confused about what EDD actually evaluates
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Mikayla Davison
The weekly certifications point is critical - I've seen people not file because they thought they had to wait for approval first. You have to keep certifying or you lose those weeks permanently.
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Ella Cofer
UPDATE: Day 15 and my claim just switched to approved this morning!! Payments are processing for weeks 1-3 and will be deposited to my Bank of America EDD debit card. Thank you to everyone in this thread - turns out it was just standard processing time and there was no actual issue with my claim. And I learned way more about natural unemployment and economics than I expected when I posted this lol. The tip about keeping job search logs was huge - I've been diligent about logging everything and really glad I didn't slack on that.
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Kayla Morgan
YES! Congrats!! Told you it would come through. Now just keep those weekly certs going every Sunday and stay on top of the job search log.
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Felix Grigori
Great news. For anyone reading this later - 11-15 business days is pretty normal for initial claim processing when there are no issues. Keep filing, keep your job search log, and only escalate to calling EDD or using a service like Claimyr if you're getting close to 3 weeks with no movement.
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Felicity Bud
so happy for you!! the waiting is genuinely the worst part
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Ryder Everingham
Glad yours worked out! Wish mine had been that smooth. For anyone whose claim doesn't auto-approve - don't wait forever hoping it resolves itself. Push for answers if you're at 3+ weeks.
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