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I just got fired, can I get unemployment? California EDD question

So my manager called me in this morning and let me go. No warning, no write-up, nothing. Just said they were "moving in a different direction" which honestly sounds like a layoff excuse to me but HR is calling it a termination. I have no idea what this means for unemployment. I've never filed before and I don't even know where to start. Do I even qualify if I was fired? I keep reading conflicting stuff online about misconduct and I'm panicking a little. I worked there for two and a half years, made decent wages the whole time. Can I actually get California EDD unemployment benefits after getting fired or am I just out of luck?

Got fired from my warehouse job back in the spring, and EDD ending up paying me the whole time I was out. Filed through myEDD at https://myedd.edd.ca.gov/ the same week I got let go. The thing about being fired is it's on your old employer to show there was actual misconduct on your side - if they can't prove that, you're generally going to be okay. I used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an EDD agent because the phone line was impossible to reach on my own. The agent looked at my claim and confirmed the interview was scheduled and told me which weeks were showing as pending. Here's the video they put out about reaching a live person at EDD: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - worth watching before you try calling yourself. After the phone interview I certified and my first payment hit about two weeks later.

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Wait so the employer actually has to prove something? I always thought if you got fired you were automatically disqualified. That changes everything for me honestly.

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Exactly right. My layoff was completely smooth but my coworker got fired and still collected. It really does come down to whether they can show you did something wrong on purpose.

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Filing the same week is key too. Your claim starts on the Sunday of whatever week you apply, so waiting even a few days pushes your start date back.

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Two and a half years of wages means you almost certainly have enough to qualify dollar-wise. EDD looks at your earnings in a specific window they call the base period - basically the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you filed. With consistent work over two plus years you should clear the minimum easily. The tricky part for a firing is the phone interview EDD schedules. They talk to you and your former employer separately and then decide. You just need to be honest about what happened and let them make the call.

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So I shouldn't try to spin anything, just tell them exactly what went down?

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Straight facts, your own words. They've heard everything. Trying to dress it up usually makes things messier.

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The interview notice is a form called DE 4800 and it'll have the exact date and time on it. The time also shows up on your UI Online homepage once your claim is in the system. Keep your phone on you at that time because that's when the interviewer phones.

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HR calling it a termination doesn't automatically mean EDD sees it as misconduct. Those are two separate things. EDD has its own definition and it's pretty specific - it's about whether you intentionally did something wrong, not just whether the company decided to let you go. File right away, like today if you can. Every day you wait is a day you won't get paid back.

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I literally have my laptop open right now. Going to start the application tonight.

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Get your last employer's full address ready, your Social Security number, your last day worked, and all your wages from the past 18 months if you can find them. The application asks for all of it.

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Also do the ID.me verification as soon as EDD prompts you. That step hung up my claim for almost a week because I didn't realize it was holding everything up.

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My firing situation was messy and EDD still approved me. They cited me for being late a few times but the agent at the phone interview asked me to explain what was going on and I told them about my commute situation after they moved our office location. EDD decided the company hadn't proven misconduct. I was shocked honestly because I expected the worst. Filed the week I got the news and had my DE 429Z showing my weekly amount in the mail about two weeks after that.

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That's really reassuring to hear. Mine feels similar - no written warnings, nothing on paper.

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Document everything you remember right now while it's fresh. What was said, by who, on what date. You may need it.

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The DE 429Z is the letter that shows what your weekly benefit amount will be, by the way. It's not a guarantee you'll be paid - EDD still has to decide eligibility after the interview - but it shows your claim is in the system.

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okay so i got fired last year and i thought the same thing, that i was totally screwed. turns out the employer didnt even respond to EDD when they were contacted so EDD just went ahead and processed my claim. not saying that'll happen for you but it's not always a big fight

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I actually hadn't even thought about whether my company would respond or not. Interesting.

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Same thing happened to mine. My old company was huge and I think they just didn't bother with the paperwork. Got approved without a full interview even.

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Worth noting though: you can't count on that. File, go through every step, do the interview if scheduled, certify every two weeks. Don't assume anything.

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Something I want to flag for anyone filing after a firing - there's a waiting week built into every new claim that doesn't get paid. EDD calls it the waiting week and it's served during your first eligible week. So your first certification usually covers that unpaid week plus one week that does pay. Just so you're not shocked when the first payment is only for one week.

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Oh I had no idea about this. So the first week is just... gone?

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Unpaid, yeah. Every claim has it no matter what. After that first cert you should see payment for the second week.

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My first cert covered the waiting week and then the payment for week two hit the Money Network card within about a day of certifying online. The debit card EDD sends is through Money Network now, not the old bank it used to be.

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The CalJOBS registration is something a lot of people miss when they're focused on the firing question. After you file, EDD will likely send you a notice called a DE 8405 that says you need to register on caljobs.ca.gov and post a resume within 21 days. Miss that deadline and your payments can stop. EDD will tell you if you're exempt.

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Wait there are multiple things I have to do just to keep getting paid? This is a lot.

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Filing the claim, doing the interview, certifying every two weeks, and CalJOBS if the notice says so. That's basically it. It sounds like a lot but each piece is pretty quick once you know what it is.

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CalJOBS is actually decent for job hunting too. Resume is right there and some employers post directly on it.

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Just make sure you understand certifying - it's every two weeks, not weekly. You answer questions about those two weeks together. UI Online walks you through it.

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Went back and forth with EDD for three weeks on my firing claim before the interview cleared things up. The pending status in Claim History just sat there showing nothing the whole time and I was going nuts. Eventually got my Notice of Determination and it went my way. The waiting is genuinely brutal.

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How did you get through the waiting without losing your mind? I'm already checking UI Online every hour.

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Honestly I just kept certifying on schedule so I wouldn't miss a week if it did flip. And I stopped checking every day, more like every couple days.

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pending status just means EDD hasn't made the call yet. doesn't mean no or yes

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The base period thing the person earlier mentioned is real important for how much you get paid weekly. It's your highest single quarter of wages in that window that sets your weekly benefit amount. With two and a half years at decent pay you're probably looking at an amount somewhere in the middle of EDD's range. The range runs from $40 to $450 a week. EDD's site has an Unemployment Benefit Calculator that estimates it.

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I'm going to run that calculator tonight. At least I'll have a rough number in my head.

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Just know the calculator is an estimate. The actual number is on the DE 429Z when it comes in the mail, and that's what EDD uses.

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My estimate was pretty close to the real number, within about $20. Run it with your pay stubs if you have them.

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Last employer pulled the 'moving in a different direction' line on my husband too. EDD ended up treating it as a layoff because the company couldn't back up any misconduct claim. The language they use in the termination letter matters less than what actually happened and what they can document.

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They gave me nothing in writing at all. Just verbal. Is that a problem?

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If anything that works in your favor. If they claim misconduct later and have no documentation, that's on them to prove, not you to disprove.

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Accurate. No write-ups, no documented warnings, no paper trail - that's going to be hard for them to overcome in the phone interview process.

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DE 429Z arrived in my mailbox nine days after I filed and that was my signal the claim was actually processing. Before that I had no idea if my application even went through. If you file online through UI Online you should also be able to see your claim status once it's in the system.

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How do I know if the application actually submitted? I'm paranoid I'll hit send and it'll just disappear.

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UI Online shows a confirmation screen after you submit and the claim should appear in your account within a day or two. If nothing shows after 48 hours, that's when I'd call or use the live chat.

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The live chat through the Help button in UI Online runs Monday to Friday 9 to 2 Pacific. Good for quick status questions without sitting on hold.

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My termination was supposedly for 'policy violations' but the policy they cited was never actually written down anywhere or given to employees in any formal way. EDD asked my old employer to show documentation of the policy during the interview process and they couldn't. Claim went through. If your situation has anything fuzzy like that, write it all down now.

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Mine is similarly vague. The 'moving in a different direction' thing with no specifics at all.

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Vague with no documentation is about the weakest case an employer can bring. Tell EDD exactly what was said and let them work it out.

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This is a good reminder that the phone interview is not an interrogation - they're genuinely collecting information from both sides. Answer what they ask, stay calm.

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The ID.me verification step tripped me up badly. Filed online, got a notice about identity verification, didn't realize it was holding everything up, waited two weeks assuming things were processing. When I finally called EDD the agent said the pending weeks in my Claim History were stuck because ID.me wasn't done. Completed it same day and things started moving within a few days.

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So I should do that the moment it asks me to, not put it off?

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Do it the second you see it. Take the photos in good light, make sure the ID is flat and readable. It held me up longer than the actual eligibility question did.

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Had the same issue. The Request for Identity Verification is a form they call a DE 1326C. You might get it in the mail too if the online verification doesn't clear right away.

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Fired in October of this year, certified my first time about two weeks after EDD processed my application, and the payment was on the Money Network debit card the next morning. The whole process from filing to first payment was just under four weeks for me. The interview was the longest part - waiting for it to be scheduled and then waiting for the decision after.

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Four weeks feels like forever when you've got bills stacking up. How did you manage?

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Stretched my last paycheck as far as it could go and leaned on a family member for one bill. Not ideal but it got me through.

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EDD's resource list also points to CalFresh for food assistance while you're waiting. Apply at BenefitsCal and unemployment benefits count as income for it. It's not a lot but it helps.

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My EDD phone interview was way less intense than I expected. The interviewer asked when I was hired, what my job was, what happened the day I was let go, and whether there had been any warnings. The whole thing was maybe 12 minutes. I'd read horror stories online about it being like a deposition and it really wasn't.

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That's honestly such a relief to hear. I've been dreading it like it's going to be some kind of trial.

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Just know the exact date of your last day, what was said to you and by who, and whether you received any written discipline. That's basically all they asked me.

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Keep the DE 4800 notice nearby when the interview time comes around. It lists the questions likely to be covered so you can think through your answers ahead of time.

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Unemployment benefits don't come off your paycheck - nothing was ever taken out for them. Your employer paid into the system the whole time you worked there. Some people think they don't qualify because they never 'paid in' but that's not how it works. The employer-side contribution is what funds it.

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I actually thought the deduction on my check was for unemployment. Learned something new.

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The CASDI deduction you might see on your stub is for State Disability Insurance and Paid Family Leave. Unemployment is funded on the employer's side entirely.

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Good to get that cleared up. See it confused constantly in threads like this.

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Just filed after getting let go last week from a tech company. The application online was pretty straightforward - took me about 25 minutes. The part that slowed me down was finding the full legal address of my employer for the form. Had to dig through my old offer letter to get it right.

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Good tip on the address - I would have just guessed at it.

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An old pay stub or the offer letter usually has it. If you're unsure you can look up the company's registered address too.

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Also have the last four quarters of wages roughly in mind if you can. The form asks for each employer over the past 18 months with start and end dates and approximate earnings.

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Fired at the end of November two years ago, had a Notice of Determination in my hands before Christmas saying I was eligible. The whole thing felt impossible while I was in it but the system does work if you go through each step. The appeal option is there if EDD doesn't go your way - DE 1000M is the form, 30 days from the date on the notice to file it.

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I'm hoping I won't need the appeal part but good to know it exists.

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Keep certifying even if you have to appeal. EDD can only pay back weeks that were certified, so don't stop just because there's a dispute.

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The appeal goes to an administrative law judge - actual hearing with testimony under oath. I had to go through one and it was more formal than the phone interview but still manageable if you're honest and have your dates right.

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Not sure if anyone's mentioned partial work yet - if you end up picking up any part-time work while your claim is active, you report those earnings when you certify. The first $25 or 25 percent of what you made that week (whichever is bigger) doesn't count against you, and the rest gets subtracted from your weekly benefit amount. So partial work doesn't necessarily end your benefits.

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I hadn't even thought about that scenario but it's good to know in case I pick up something temporary.

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Just report everything for the week you earned it, not when you get paid. That's the part people mess up - if you worked Wednesday, that goes in the week of Wednesday even if the check comes two weeks later.

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yeah i made the mistake of reporting by pay date and had to contact EDD to sort out a week. do it by when you earned it like the person above said

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The EDD phone line being impossible to get through is a real problem especially right after you file and have questions. Tried for four days straight and kept getting a busy signal or getting cut off. Quarter of the way through my claim I ended up getting through to an agent using Claimyr - asked about why two specific weeks were showing as pending, and the agent pulled up my file and told me one week was held because my identity check had just cleared and the other was waiting for the interview decision. Ended up certifying that same afternoon once I understood what was actually happening.

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How did it work for you practically - did you just go to the site and start from there?

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Went to claimyr.com, went through the steps, and ended up talking to an EDD agent about my pending weeks. Straightforward from my end.

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Four days of busy signals is brutal. I hit a wall like that too around week three of my claim.

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Got paid my first EDD deposit in late October and it's been steady since. Filed the day I got the termination notice and had the DE 429Z about a week and a half later. My weekly amount was $387 based on my wages from the last job. The only real bump was the CalJOBS step - the resume requirement on there felt weird when I'd never used the site before but it took maybe 20 minutes total once I figured out the layout.

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$387 a week sounds like it could actually cover my basics while I look. I'm going to run that calculator tonight.

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Pull your last few pay stubs so you're using real numbers in the calculator. The estimate is pretty close to actual in my experience.

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The CalJOBS resume doesn't have to be perfect - it just needs to be posted and visible. Put in your work history and skills and you're done. The DE 8405 gives you 21 days from when it's mailed to get it done.

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Talked to an agent about my own firing claim last month - EDD had flagged one week in my Claim History because I'd done a few hours of freelance work and wasn't sure how to report it. Used Claimyr to get through since I'd already spent two mornings on hold with no luck. The agent walked me through exactly which week was flagged and confirmed I just needed to report those wages in the Report Wages section of UI Online before certifying that period. Got it sorted same day.

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The reporting wages thing genuinely confuses me - is it separate from certifying or part of it?

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Report Wages in UI Online is for checking how a week's earnings would be calculated before you certify. The actual reporting happens during the certification itself when it asks what you earned. The agent made that distinction clear for me.

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To add to that: Report Wages doesn't fix a week you already certified wrong. If you reported something incorrectly in a past certification you have to contact EDD through a message in UI Online or by phone.

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My situation reading your post sounds identical to mine from a few months back. 'Moving in a different direction' is basically corporate code for a layoff-style termination with no specific cause attached. EDD looked at my case and found no misconduct documented, no written warnings, nothing. The interview took about 10 minutes and the determination came about two weeks after. Filed for direct deposit in myEDD before my first payment so it went straight to my bank account instead of waiting for the debit card.

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I didn't know I could change to direct deposit. I'll set that up right away.

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Change it in myEDD before your first payment processes. Once a payment is already issued to the card it goes to the card, but future ones can go to your bank.

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Setting up direct deposit early is smart. Payments often show up within 24 hours of certifying online once the account is set.

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EDD handles thousands of firing cases and the vast majority where the employer can't show real documented misconduct end up approved. Two and a half years of employment with no documented discipline history is a solid position to be in. File today, verify your identity through ID.me the moment it asks, check your UI Online homepage for the interview date and time, and certify on schedule. Those four things are basically the whole process.

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This is the clearest summary of what I need to do. Thank you. Filing tonight.

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Good. The hardest part is usually the waiting, not the actual steps. Keep records of everything and you'll be fine.

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Also check your mail every day once you file. EDD mails things that are time-sensitive - the DE 4800 for the interview, the DE 8405 for CalJOBS, the DE 1080CZ if there's a denial. Missing a mail piece and missing a deadline are very different problems.

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And if you disagree with anything on the DE 429Z when it arrives, you have 30 days from the date on it to appeal in writing. Usually it's fine but worth a quick check when it shows up.

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