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Rebecca Johnston

How does unemployment know if you applied for a job? California EDD work search explained

So I got laid off from my warehouse job about six weeks ago and have been collecting UI. I've been applying to places here and there but honestly I'm kind of freaked out about the work search requirement. When I certify every two weeks it asks if I looked for work and I say yes, but now I'm paranoid - how does unemployment know if you applied for a job? Like does EDD actually check with employers? Do they contact the places I applied to? Can they even verify that? I keep a list in my notes app but nobody told me I had to submit it anywhere. I don't want to lose my benefits over something like this but I also don't fully understand what they're actually checking.

Pretty common question honestly, and I think a lot of people stress about this more than they need to. EDD doesn't go around calling every company you applied to - they just don't have the resources or any mechanism to do that for every claimant. What actually happens is they audit a small percentage of claims and if you get audited, THAT's when they'd ask you to prove your searches. Keep your list going - dates, company names, how you applied, position title. Notes app works, a spreadsheet works, a piece of paper works. Just have something you can point to if they ever ask.

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Wait so they can randomly audit me? How does that even work, do I get a letter or something?

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Usually they'd send you something in the mail asking you to provide your work search records. It's not super common but it does happen. That's why having that list matters even if you never submit it anywhere.

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Had a friend go through an audit last year and they just had to send in their list by a certain date. As long as you actually looked for work you're fine.

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Okay that makes me feel a little better. I do have dates and job names saved, just not the job posting links or anything fancy.

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Mostly what EDD relies on is the honor system when you certify, plus random spot checks. The certification question about job search is basically you attesting under penalty of perjury that you looked for work. So while they're not calling employers every week, lying about it is treated really seriously as fraud - false statement penalties can be significant. Just actually do the searches and keep track of them and you're genuinely fine.

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under penalty of perjury?? i didn't realize it was that serious when i hit yes every two weeks

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Yeah the certification screen has that language. It's not meant to scare you if you're actually looking, it's just there to discourage people from claiming benefits while making zero effort.

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The fraud side of this is no joke. EDD can add penalties and even refer cases. But if you're actually applying to jobs like the question says there's nothing to worry about.

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DE 429Z came in the mail after my claim started and I honestly didn't read it carefully enough - missed that the work search stuff starts right away. Ended up spending way too long on hold trying to reach someone to ask about my specific situation because I'd had a gap in my search activity. Used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to EDD - it holds in the queue for you so you end up talking to a live agent without sitting there all day. They have a video showing how reaching a live person at EDD works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. The agent I got pulled up my claim and confirmed which weeks needed to show search activity and what I'd need if audited. Turned out my gap weeks were still okay because of how the requirement applied to my claim type.

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Did the agent say anything about what counts as enough job applications per week? I've been doing like 2-3 a week and hoping that's okay.

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The agent didn't give me a specific number - basically said EDD's focus is that you're genuinely making an effort and searching in your field. They don't publish a set number of contacts on the site either from what I found.

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Good to know there's a way to actually reach someone. The hold times I've hit calling the main line have been brutal.

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Does EDD check with CalJOBS? Because I registered there like they told me to after I got the notice about it, but I haven't been using it to actually apply for jobs - just uploaded my resume. Wondering if they track activity there somehow.

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CalJOBS registration and the resume posting are what EDD actually requires from that side - the caljobs.ca.gov site tracks that your profile is active and your resume is up. Using CalJOBS to apply for jobs is optional, you don't have to run all your applications through it. Your outside applications still count.

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Oh okay good. I've been applying on Indeed and LinkedIn mostly and was scared those wouldn't count because they're not in CalJOBS.

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Those absolutely count. The requirement is just that you registered and posted a resume in CalJOBS within 21 days of getting that notice. Where you actually apply is up to you.

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NOBODY explains this clearly when you first file and then people lose benefits over it. I had a whole situation last year where EDD flagged my claim because I hadn't registered in CalJOBS within the deadline - got it resolved eventually but it delayed my payments and was a nightmare. The registration deadline on that notice matters, pay attention to the exact date it says.

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I did get that notice and registered within the first week. So I should be okay on that part at least.

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Then you're ahead of a lot of people. The CalJOBS thing trips up so many claimants because the notice doesn't scream at you about the consequences if you miss it.

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What actually happens if someone misses the CalJOBS deadline? Do they just deny the whole claim or just pause payments?

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Missing it can stop your payments until you get it sorted out - it's not necessarily permanent but it creates a mess you have to untangle by contacting EDD. Easier to just do it in time like the question poster did.

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Genuine question - if someone only applied to like one job in a whole two-week period, does that automatically get flagged? Or is there any kind of minimum that triggers a review?

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EDD doesn't publish a threshold number anywhere that I've seen. The requirement is that you're making a genuine effort to find work. One application in two weeks is pretty thin but unless you're audited you wouldn't know.

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Okay so it's not like a hard cutoff. That makes sense I guess, just wish it was more spelled out.

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The vagueness is intentional to some degree - they want claimants to be actively searching, not gaming a minimum number. But it also means common sense applies: more applications with real records is always better than fewer.

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wait does edd actually contact employers when you apply? like will my old employer find out i'm collecting? because they were kind of hostile when they let me go and i really don't want them involved again

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EDD notifies your last employer when you file a claim - that's standard, they get a notice and can respond about why you stopped working there. That already happened when you first filed. EDD reaching out to places you're currently applying to is a completely different thing and doesn't happen.

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oh god i didn't know they notified my employer when i filed. is there anything i can do about that now?

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Nothing to do now - it's part of the process and happened at filing. The employer just gets a chance to give their side of why you left. It doesn't mean they can deny your claim, EDD makes that decision.

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okay that's a little scary but i guess it's done. thanks for explaining

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Something to add about the audit piece - when EDD does request work search records, they typically want specifics: the name of the employer, the date you applied, the position, and how you applied (online, in person, email). Keeping your notes app list in that format now means you're not scrambling to reconstruct it later. I went through a spot check about two years ago and they gave me about two weeks to submit my records. It was fine because I had everything logged.

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Two weeks to submit - that's actually enough time to get it together. I'm going to update my list format to include position title and how I applied. Good call.

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Exactly. Employer name, date, job title, and application method. That's really all you need. Even a simple note on your phone in that format covers you.

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I keep mine in a Google doc with columns for each of those things. Never been audited but it takes two seconds to update after each application and I sleep better knowing I have it.

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Does the type of job matter? Like I was a warehouse supervisor and now I'm applying to some office admin jobs because there's more of them around me. Is EDD going to flag that as not looking in my actual field?

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EDD's requirement is that you're able and available for work and actively looking - they're not going to penalize you for broadening your search. Applying across industries or at different levels is fine and honestly shows effort.

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If anything, widening your search is encouraged. You're supposed to be genuinely trying to get back to work, and refusing to consider anything outside your exact previous role could actually be a problem.

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That actually makes me feel better. I was worried about applying too broadly and looking like I wasn't taking it seriously.

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Okay so here's my situation - I've been certifying and saying yes to work search but I genuinely forgot to look for work during one two-week period because I was dealing with a family emergency. I still said yes. What happens if that ever comes up?

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Certifying that you did work search when you didn't is a false statement on your certification, which falls under EDD's fraud provisions. That's the serious part of this. For that specific period, you'd want to contact EDD and sort it out rather than leaving it.

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I really didn't think about it that way in the moment, it just asked yes or no. How do I even contact EDD about something like that?

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You can send a message through your UI Online account, or call 1-800-300-5616 on a weekday between 8 and 5. Explaining what happened and what the week actually looked like is the right move. EDD has ways to handle corrections.

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okay i'll reach out through UI Online. this thread scared me into doing the right thing honestly

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Phone line to EDD is basically impossible some days. I spent an entire morning redialing last month when I had a question about my work search and kept getting the busy signal or disconnected. Eventually gave up and sent a message through my UI Online account instead, which took a few days to get a response but at least I got one.

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How long did the UI Online message take to get a reply? I might need to ask EDD something specific about my situation.

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Took about five business days for me. The reply was helpful though and they answered my actual question. Just not great if you need an answer fast.

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I didn't know you could message through UI Online. Is that in the account somewhere obvious?

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For the person asking about UI Online messages - there's a Help button in myEDD where you can reach live chat Monday through Friday 9 to 2, or send a message to EDD directly from your account. The live chat option when it's available is faster than waiting for a message reply.

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9 to 2 for live chat is actually a pretty narrow window. Good to know though, I'll try to catch it during those hours.

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Yeah the window is tight. I tried live chat once and it worked well but I hit it at exactly the right time. Miss that window and you're back to phone or message.

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My cousin told me EDD shares your job search info with employers automatically and that's how they verify. Is that actually true? That sounds completely wrong to me but she was pretty confident about it.

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That's not how it works at all. EDD doesn't share your job search activity with any employer - there's no mechanism for that and it would be a privacy nightmare. What they do is give employers a chance to respond when you first file a claim, not throughout your claim.

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Yeah that sounded wrong to me too. I'll let her know.

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Misinformation about EDD spreads fast. The only employer contact is the initial notice when you file, and that's the last employer, not anyone you apply to afterward.

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Anyone else feel like the work search requirement is kind of unevenly enforced? I've talked to people who never kept any records and were never asked about it, and then others who got audited right away. Feels random.

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It is somewhat random in terms of who gets selected. The audit process pulls claims based on various factors and not everyone gets reviewed. That's exactly why the advice is to keep records even if it feels pointless - you don't get advance warning.

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Makes sense. I'll keep doing what I'm doing. Just feels a little arbitrary.

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The randomness is frustrating but also the system would collapse if they audited everyone. So keep your records and hope you're not the unlucky pick.

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Quick thing I want to know - when I certify and check yes to job search, is there anywhere on the certification that asks me to actually list what I applied for? Mine never seems to ask for that detail.

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The certification itself just asks yes or no on work search - it doesn't collect the actual list of applications. That's what you keep separately in case of an audit. The certification is basically your word that you did it.

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Okay so the list stays with me unless they ask for it. Got it. That whole process is simpler than I thought then.

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Recertifying after a week where I had some part-time hours was confusing for me - I wasn't sure if working a few hours disqualified my work search for that week. Used Claimyr to get through to EDD when I had questions on a previous claim and the agent walked me through how part-time wages get reported versus the work search part being separate. Those are two different questions on the certification.

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That's a really good distinction - earning some wages in a week and doing job search activity are two separate things on the form. I was confusing those too.

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So even if I picked up a few hours somewhere I still need to have done job search that week to certify yes?

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Exactly right. Part-time work doesn't automatically mean you were looking for full-time work - EDD still wants to see that you're seeking permanent employment. The wages get reported separately from the work search question.

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Something I want to flag about CalJOBS that tripped me up - I registered but didn't put up an actual resume, I just created the profile. Got a notice from EDD a few weeks later about it. The requirement is specifically to register AND post a resume, both things, within that 21-day window on the DE 8405 notice.

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Oh I didn't realize the resume had to be actually posted. I thought creating the profile was enough. Going to go do that right now.

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Yeah it needs to be an actual resume visible on the profile. Even a basic one counts - doesn't have to be perfect. Just get something up there.

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Does it have to be a specific format or can you upload a PDF?

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CalJOBS lets you build one using their form or upload your own. Either way works as long as there's something actually posted on your profile.

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Honestly the work search thing stresses me out every two weeks when I certify. My situation is a little complicated because I'm in a specialized trade and there are genuinely fewer jobs to apply to in my area. I've been worried that my number of applications looks suspicious even though I'm applying to basically everything that exists.

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Specialized fields with low job volume are a real thing. If you're ever audited and asked about your records, the context of your industry and location matters. Having your applications documented with dates and positions shows you're applying to what's actually available.

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That's reassuring. I do have everything logged. It's just the anxiety of not knowing if it looks like enough.

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Documentation is your protection. If your whole industry only has 10 postings a month in your area, applying to all 10 and having that list is exactly what an auditor would want to see. The effort is what matters.

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Applying to jobs on company websites directly - does that count the same as applying through job boards like Indeed? I've been doing a mix and wasn't sure if EDD cares where the application goes.

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Applies the same either way. A direct application to a company's website is exactly as valid as one through a third-party board. What you're documenting is that you reached out to a real employer for a real job, not which platform you used to do it.

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Good to know. I actually prefer applying directly when I can so this is helpful.

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My work search question is different - I've been applying mostly to jobs I know I'm slightly underqualified for because I'm trying to get back into the field faster after being out for a while. Is that going to look weird if EDD ever reviews it?

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EDD's not going to judge whether the jobs you applied to were the perfect fit. The requirement is that you're making genuine applications to real employers for real jobs. Stretch applications are still applications.

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Okay good. I was overthinking it. As long as I'm actually submitting applications and keeping the records I should be fine.

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Exactly. The purpose of work search is to show you're trying to get back to employment, not to curate a perfect resume match every time.

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DE 8405 notice came in the mail and I basically ignored it because I didn't know what it was. Almost missed the CalJOBS registration deadline because of that. Opened it three weeks later and panicked. Barely got registered in time. Lesson: open every piece of EDD mail immediately.

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This is good advice. I've been opening everything right away just in case but I know people who let EDD mail pile up.

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The worst part is I'd heard CalJOBS was optional and thought the notice was just informational. It is very much not optional for most people.

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EDD mail never feels urgent until it suddenly very much is. Open it, read it, put it somewhere you won't lose it.

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For what it's worth I went through a full audit of my work search records about 18 months ago and it was much less scary than I expected. EDD sent a letter asking for records covering about 12 weeks. I sent in my spreadsheet and heard back a few weeks later that everything looked fine. The key was that I had dates, employer names, positions, and application method for every entry. They didn't call any employers to verify.

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This is exactly what I needed to hear. Specific records, they review them, no employer contact. That matches what others have said in this thread too.

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The letter giving you time to submit is fair and the bar isn't impossibly high. They're checking that you made real efforts, not that every application was perfect.

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How did you submit the records - did you mail them or was there an online option?

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Mailed them in my case, but the letter they sent had the submission address and instructions. Follow whatever it says on that letter.

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Tracking everything in CalJOBS directly never occurred to me until reading this thread. Do applications you submit through CalJOBS get logged there automatically, or do you still need to track them separately?

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Applying through CalJOBS does leave a record on the site, but EDD doesn't require you to use CalJOBS for applications - plenty of people apply elsewhere and just keep their own records. Either approach works.

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So I could technically apply through CalJOBS and have a built-in log, or just apply anywhere and keep my own records. Got it.

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Timing-wise - my benefit year is almost half done and I still haven't found anything. Someone told me there might be extensions available. Is that something EDD offers automatically?

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Extensions beyond the standard 26 weeks only kick in when unemployment rates hit certain federal or state thresholds - there's no automatic extension available right now under general conditions. There's something called California Training Benefits if you're in EDD-approved training, but that's a specific program you'd apply for before your 16th week of benefits.

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My 16th week passed already so I guess the training thing is off the table. That's disappointing but good to know not to count on an extension.

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Yeah the training benefit has that timing requirement so it needs to come before week 16. After 26 weeks on the current claim, that's the full benefit year for standard UI. Use up that time wisely for your search.

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That's hard to hear but better to know now. I've been having the same thought about what happens at the end of my claim.

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Last thing on my end - my aunt told me I should apply for CalFresh while I'm on UI since income is low right now. Is that actually an option when you're collecting unemployment?

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Unemployment benefits count as income for CalFresh purposes but collecting UI doesn't disqualify you. You can apply and the county decides eligibility based on your income and household situation. BenefitsCal is where you'd apply online, or you can call 1-877-847-3663.

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Good to know. My weekly amount isn't a lot so I figured I might be under the threshold. Worth applying to find out.

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Definitely worth applying. The county does the income calculation and there's no harm in checking. A lot of people on UI qualify without realizing it.

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