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EDD denied benefits after employer changed 'let go' to 'fired' - can I appeal?

I'm in a really frustrating situation with my unemployment claim! I was working as a customer service supervisor for 2.5 years at a retail distribution center. My manager called me into a meeting last month and literally said 'we're letting you go' and that it wasn't 'a good fit anymore.' I was on a 60-day performance improvement plan but during my last check-in (just 2 weeks before), they said I was 'showing great improvement' and to 'keep it up.' Then suddenly - gone! When I filed for unemployment, EDD sent me a notice saying I was DENIED because my employer reported I was terminated for misconduct! The determination letter says I was 'discharged' but doesn't specify what misconduct occurred. I'm freaking out because I need these benefits to pay rent next month. Has anyone dealt with an employer changing their story to EDD? Do I have a chance on appeal? The letter they gave me when I left doesn't mention being fired - it just says 'separation from employment effective immediately.'

Ava Garcia

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You absolutely need to appeal this ASAP! I went through something very similar last year and won my appeal. When your employer says "letting you go" but then tells EDD you were fired for misconduct, the burden of proof is on THEM to prove the misconduct. If they were vague about the reason and you had positive feedback on your performance plan, that works in your favor. Make sure you request a copy of your personnel file immediately (CA law gives you the right to this) and gather any documentation showing positive feedback. You have 30 days from the date on the disqualification notice to file your appeal, but do it right away. In your appeal letter, clearly state that you were told you were being "let go" and that no misconduct was ever discussed. Good luck!

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Dmitry Ivanov

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Thank you so much for this advice! I didn't know I could request my personnel file - I'll do that today. I saved emails from my supervisor about the performance plan where they said I was improving. Do you think that will help? Also, can I mention in the appeal that they extended the performance plan right before letting me go? That seems contradictory to firing someone for misconduct, right?

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Miguel Silva

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OMG this happened to me too!! my boss told me they were downsizing my department but then EDD said i was fired for excessive tardiness?? I was like 5 min late maybe 3-4 times in 6 months and never got any warnings about it. the system is SO rigged against workers its not even funny. i appealed and had to wait like 11 weeks for a hearing and was stressing the ENTIRE time

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Dmitry Ivanov

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11 weeks?? That's so long! Did you win your appeal at least? I'm already stressed about paying bills next month, I can't imagine waiting almost 3 months for a decision...

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Zainab Ismail

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If your employerr told you that your performance was improving and then they let you go without any clear misconduct, you definetly have a strong case for appeal. The key is they have to PROVE misconduct, not just claim it. Make sure you write down everything that happened with dates as soon as possible while its fresh in your mind. Also in California, misconduct has to be a DELIBERATE disregard of your employers interests, not just poor performance. Print out the appeal form from the EDD website and mail it certified so you have proof they received it.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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Thank you for explaining the misconduct definition! That makes me feel better since there was definitely no deliberate disregard on my part. I'm going to start writing everything down right now while I remember all the details. Would text messages between me and coworkers about the situation help my case too?

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Connor O'Neill

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I help people with EDD appeals and here's what you need to know: This type of situation happens ALL THE TIME. Employers often tell employees they're "letting them go" or it's "not working out" to avoid confrontation, then tell EDD something completely different to contest unemployment. For your appeal, you'll need: 1) Any written communication about your performance plan 2) The separation letter you mentioned 3) Names/contact info of any witnesses to your termination meeting 4) Timeline of events leading to separation. The fact they extended your plan then terminated you shortly after giving positive feedback is something to emphasize at your hearing. The judge will likely find this inconsistent with misconduct.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I have emails about the performance plan and the separation letter. There was an HR rep in the termination meeting - would they be considered a witness? Or would they just back up whatever the company says?

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QuantumQuester

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ur boss sounds like a jerk, sorry ur dealing with this!! my cousin had something like this happen and she just kept filing appeal after appeal and eventually they got tired of fighting her and she got her benefits lol sometimes u just gotta be annoying

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Connor O'Neill

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Just to clarify - while persistence is important, there's actually a specific appeals process to follow. After the initial appeal and hearing, there's the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board review, then Superior Court if needed. You can't just file multiple identical appeals. It's better to prepare thoroughly for the first appeal hearing as that's where most cases are decided.

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Yara Nassar

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Have you tried calling EDD to discuss this with a representative? They might be able to provide more details about why you were denied or what specific misconduct your employer is claiming. Getting through to EDD on the phone is nearly impossible though - I wasted WEEKS trying to reach someone. I finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an EDD rep in under 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10?si=TSwYbu_GOwYzt9km. It was honestly worth it because the rep gave me specific info about my case that helped me prepare for my appeal hearing.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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I've been calling EDD for three days straight and haven't gotten through once! It's so frustrating. I'll check out that service - I really need to understand exactly what my employer is claiming before the appeal hearing. Thanks for the recommendation!

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Keisha Williams

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You said they had you on a performance plan wich makes me think they probably DID fire you for performance reasons to be honest. BUT that doesn't mean misconduct! Bad performance isn't automatically misconduct for EDD purposes. If you were genuinely trying to meet expectations and they acknowledged improvement, that's what matters. BE SURE to mention this at your hearing and bring any proof. Don't be nervous at the hearing, the judges are usually fair.

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Miguel Silva

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This is so true! Performance issues ARE NOT misconduct! My appeal judge specifically said this during my hearing. As long as you were TRYING to do your job right and weren't like deliberately breaking rules or something, you should qualify for benefits even if they weren't happy with your work.

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Connor O'Neill

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One more important thing: at your appeal hearing, your former employer needs to send someone who has FIRSTHAND knowledge of why you were terminated. If they send an HR person who wasn't in the termination meeting or doesn't have direct knowledge of the alleged misconduct, object to their testimony as hearsay. Many employers lose appeals because they send representatives who don't have direct knowledge of the situation. And if your employer doesn't attend the hearing at all, you'll almost certainly win.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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That's really good to know! My direct supervisor who put me on the PIP was the one who terminated me, with an HR person present. Would both need to attend for their testimony to count? Or just my supervisor?

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Zainab Ismail

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Oh and one other thing - while your waiting for the appeal make sure you KEEP CERTIFYING for benefits every two weeks even though your getting denied right now! If you win your appeal they'll pay you for all those weeks but ONLY if you certified for them!! A lot of people dont realize this and miss out on backpay

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Dmitry Ivanov

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Thank you! I didn't know I needed to keep certifying - I probably would have stopped since they denied me. I'll make sure to keep up with the certifications while waiting for the appeal!

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