EDD claiming I quit voluntarily after layoff with RIF paperwork - employer contradicting severance letter
I'm in a total panic right now! I was laid off back in December as part of what my company called an "involuntary reduction in force" (RIF). I even have the official termination paperwork stating this. I applied for unemployment right away and initially got approved. Fast forward to last week - I had my eligibility interview with EDD and the interviewer dropped a bombshell saying my former employer submitted documentation claiming I QUIT VOLUNTARILY! This is absolutely not true. I was called into a meeting, handed a severance packet, and told my position was eliminated. I immediately faxed EDD a copy of my RIF paperwork that clearly states this was an involuntary termination, but I'm terrified they'll side with my employer. I've already received 8 weeks of benefits that I might have to pay back if they decide against me. Has anyone dealt with an employer trying to dodge unemployment claims by lying about the nature of separation? What should I do next? Should I get a lawyer?
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Malia Ponder
This happens more often than you'd think. Your former employer is probably trying to avoid their unemployment insurance rates going up. The good news is that you have documentation showing it was a RIF, which is extremely valuable evidence. Here's what you should do: 1. Follow up with EDD to confirm they received your faxed documents 2. Submit a written statement clearly explaining the circumstances of your separation 3. Request copies of whatever documentation your employer submitted 4. If you received any severance or termination documents that state it was a layoff, submit those immediately Don't panic yet. The EDD will make a determination after reviewing all evidence. They're used to seeing conflicting information from employers and employees.
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Holly Lascelles
•Thank you for the advice. I'll definitely follow up about the fax tomorrow. Do you know how long it typically takes for EDD to make a determination after they review everything? My rent is due soon and I'm getting really anxious about this whole situation.
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Kyle Wallace
my boss tried the SAME THING last year!!!! said i quit when they actually eliminated my whole department. these companies will say ANYTHING to avoid paying unemployment costs. make sure you keep COPIES of EVERYTHING you send to edd. and write down the names of everyone you talk to there. the system is a nightmare
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Holly Lascelles
•That's awful! What happened in your case? Did EDD eventually rule in your favor? I'm worried they'll believe my employer since they're a big company with an HR department.
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Kyle Wallace
•yeah they ruled in my favor but it took FOREVER like almost 2 months. i had to keep certifying every week not knowing if id have to pay it all back. just keep all ur paperwork and dont give up!!!
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Ryder Ross
This is a common issue with unemployment claims. Your employer is attempting to contest your claim to avoid their UI tax rate increasing, which happens when former employees collect benefits. For the EDD determination interview: - Provide your RIF documentation and any severance agreement showing it was not a voluntary resignation - If you have any emails or communications about the layoff, submit those as well - If you received a severance package, that's additional evidence it was a layoff (people who quit don't typically get severance) - Request a copy of whatever your employer submitted claiming you quit The EDD will weigh the evidence and make a determination. If they rule against you, you have the right to appeal within 30 days. The appeal process is fairly straightforward but can take time. Based on what you've described, having the RIF documentation puts you in a strong position.
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Holly Lascelles
•Thank you for this detailed explanation. I do have emails from HR about the layoff process and the severance package. I'll get those together to submit as additional evidence. If it does come down to an appeal, would you recommend getting legal help at that point?
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Gianni Serpent
I'm going through something similar right now!!! My employer is saying I was fired for misconduct when I was actually laid off with 5 other people. The whole UI system is designed to be confusing on purpose I think. I've been trying to reach EDD for 3 weeks straight and can never get through. Always get the "we're experiencing high call volume" message and then it hangs up. How did you even get an eligibility interview?? I've been waiting for one for over a month.
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Henry Delgado
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Gianni Serpent
•omg thank you!!! i'm going to try this tomorrow. i'm so desperate to talk to a real person at this point
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Olivia Kay
This doesn't sound right at all! If you have the RIF paperwork, you should be fine, but the EDD system is a mess honestly. When I got laid off last year, I had all my documentation in order but still had to fight for my benefits. One thing nobody mentioned - did you sign anything on your way out? Sometimes employers slip in resignation language into exit paperwork. Check everything you signed carefully. And if your RIF notice specifically uses the words "involuntary separation" or "layoff due to reduction in force," that should be very strong evidence. Also, contact your old coworkers if possible. Were others laid off at the same time? Their testimony could help if this goes to appeal.
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Holly Lascelles
•That's a really good point. I did sign several documents during my exit meeting, but I have copies and just double-checked - none mention resignation. They all consistently refer to it as a "reduction in force" and "involuntary separation." And yes, 12 other people were laid off the same day across different departments. I'll reach out to see if any of them are having similar issues.
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Joshua Hellan
honestly the edd is a joke lol. they'll probably make you wait 3 months for a decision and then u have to appeal anyway. the whole thing is rigged to make people give up. good luck buddy ur gonna need it
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Malia Ponder
•While I understand your frustration, I think this comment isn't particularly helpful for someone actively trying to navigate the system. The appeals process, while time-consuming, does work for many people who have legitimate claims and proper documentation. The key is persistence and organization.
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Joshua Hellan
•easy to say when ur not the one whos broke and waiting for months lol. but whatever maybe ur right
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Jibriel Kohn
wait i got confused reading this. so ur saying u were laid off but ur employer is telling edd u quit? did u sign a resignation letter? im trying to figure out what to expect cuz my company is doing layoffs next month
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Holly Lascelles
•No, I absolutely did not sign any resignation letter. I was laid off as part of a reduction in force (RIF), given severance paperwork that clearly states it was an involuntary termination, and then applied for unemployment. Now my employer is apparently telling EDD I quit voluntarily, which is completely false. If your company is planning layoffs, make sure to get and keep all documentation they provide about the layoff.
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Jibriel Kohn
•oh got it! thx for explaining. thats super shady of them to lie like that. hope u get it sorted out!
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Ryder Ross
Quick update on my earlier advice - be sure to submit a written statement to EDD addressing the specific claim that you voluntarily quit. You should explicitly state that you did not resign, did not give notice, and were informed by the company that your position was eliminated due to a reduction in force. Make sure you're still certifying for benefits every two weeks while this is being resolved. If your payments are put on hold pending this determination, they'll be released as a lump sum once the issue is resolved (assuming the determination is in your favor). If you receive a negative determination, you have 30 days to appeal, and the success rate for appeals with good documentation is actually quite high. The appeal hearing is conducted by an Administrative Law Judge who will review the evidence more thoroughly.
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Holly Lascelles
•Thank you for the follow-up advice. I went ahead and wrote out a detailed statement describing the layoff meeting and included dates, names of the HR representatives present, and the exact wording they used to inform me about the RIF. I also mentioned I have witnesses (coworkers who were laid off the same day). I'm still certifying every two weeks even though I'm nervous about the whole situation.
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Henry Delgado
I went through this exact scenario in January! My former employer tried to claim I had abandoned my job when I was actually part of a mass layoff. It was infuriating! What worked for me was calling EDD directly and speaking with a tier 2 specialist who could actually note my account. I couldn't get through for days, then I found Claimyr (claimyr.com) which connected me with an EDD representative within 20 minutes. I was able to explain my situation and they flagged my account for urgent review. The EDD rep told me they see employers do this frequently to avoid the UI tax hit. Since I had documentation proving the layoff (similar to your RIF paperwork), they ultimately ruled in my favor after reviewing everything. Don't lose hope!
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Holly Lascelles
•That's really encouraging to hear! Did they pause your benefits while they were investigating, or did they keep paying you during the review? I'm trying to prepare financially in case mine get put on hold during this process.
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Henry Delgado
•They put my benefits on hold for about 3 weeks during the investigation. Once they ruled in my favor, they released all the pending payments at once. It was stressful but worked out. Definitely recommend getting through to someone on the phone to speed things up!
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Destiny Bryant
I'm really sorry you're going through this stress! This exact situation happened to my sister last year when her company did layoffs but then claimed she quit to avoid paying into the unemployment fund. A few things that helped her case: - She gathered ALL documentation from her final day (emails, meeting invites, even text messages to family about being laid off) - She wrote down a detailed timeline of events while it was still fresh in her memory - She contacted former coworkers who were also laid off to see if they'd be willing to provide statements The good news is that EDD investigators are pretty experienced with employers trying to pull this stuff. Your RIF paperwork is solid evidence, especially if it has official letterhead and signatures. Companies usually don't fabricate entire layoff documents just to contest one person's unemployment claim. Stay strong and keep documenting everything. The truth usually comes out in these situations, and it sounds like you have the paperwork to back up your side of the story.
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Marcus Williams
•This is really helpful advice, thank you! I'm going to start putting together a timeline like you suggested while everything is still fresh in my mind. It's reassuring to know that your sister went through something similar and came out okay. I've been losing sleep over this whole situation, but hearing these success stories gives me hope that the truth will prevail. I'll definitely reach out to my former coworkers who were laid off the same day - having their statements could really strengthen my case.
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Amara Okafor
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this nightmare! Your employer is definitely trying to game the system to avoid their unemployment insurance costs going up. This is unfortunately really common, but the good news is you have strong documentation on your side. A few additional tips that might help: - If you have any emails or text messages you sent to friends/family right after the layoff mentioning you were let go, those can serve as contemporaneous evidence - Check if your company issued any press releases or internal communications about the RIF that you could reference - If you received COBRA paperwork, that's also evidence of involuntary termination since people who quit usually aren't eligible The fact that you have official RIF documentation puts you in a much stronger position than many people dealing with contested claims. EDD sees this employer tactic all the time and they know what to look for. Keep pushing forward with all your evidence and don't let them intimidate you into giving up. You were legitimately laid off and deserve those benefits!
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Liam Sullivan
•This is such great advice! I didn't even think about the COBRA paperwork - I did receive that and it specifically mentions "involuntary termination" as the qualifying event. I also found some text messages I sent to my mom right after the layoff meeting where I told her I got laid off and was shocked. These little pieces of evidence are really adding up. It's frustrating that I even have to prove this when I have the official RIF letter, but I'm feeling more confident about my case now. Thank you for taking the time to share these tips!
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