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Do seasonal workers get unemployment in California? EDD claim eligibility questions

So I just wrapped up my third season working at a ski resort up in the Sierra Nevada and for the first time I'm actually thinking about filing for unemployment through California EDD instead of just burning through my savings until spring work picks up. I've heard conflicting things from coworkers - some say seasonal workers can't get UI benefits at all, others say they can but it's complicated. I worked from mid-November through late March, full time the whole season, earned decent wages, paid into the system every paycheck. Does any of this actually qualify me? I'm not sure if EDD treats seasonal work differently during the off-season or if I'd just get denied automatically. Has anyone navigated this as a seasonal worker before? I don't want to waste time filing if I'm just going to get hit with a disqualification notice.

Yes, seasonal workers absolutely can qualify for California EDD unemployment benefits - this is a really common misconception that trips people up. The key factors EDD looks at are the same as any other claimant: did you earn enough base period wages, and did your job end through no fault of your own? Seasonal employment ending because the season is over counts as a layoff, not a voluntary quit. As long as your employer didn't refuse to rehire you and you're available for work during the off-season, you have a solid case for UI eligibility.

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That's really reassuring. I was worried the 'seasonal' label would automatically flag my claim somehow. My employer definitely didn't say anything about not rehiring me - they literally said see you next November.

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wait so even if they already told you theyre gonna hire you back you can still collect?? asking for a friend lol

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The 'rehire expected' situation is more nuanced - if you have a definite return-to-work date within a few weeks, EDD may put you on standby status rather than regular UI. But if the next season is months away, you'd typically file for regular benefits and handle it from there.

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Filed as a seasonal agricultural worker two years ago and got approved without any issues. The California EDD base period calculation actually works in favor of seasonal workers sometimes - they look at wages earned in the 12-18 months before you filed, so a full season of work can definitely meet the minimum threshold. I think the requirement is something like earning at least $1,300 in your highest quarter, or $900 in your highest quarter plus your total base period wages being at least 1.25 times that.

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That threshold actually sounds very doable based on what I earned this past season. Did you have to do anything special when filing or just go through the normal UI Online process?

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Just the normal UI Online process at edd.ca.gov. When it asks about your separation reason just be honest - seasonal layoff, end of season. Don't overthink it.

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the base period wage stuff is accurate, good info here

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One thing I'd add - make sure you understand the job search requirements before your benefits start. A lot of seasonal workers I've talked to in these forums assume that because they plan to go back to the same employer they don't need to do job searches. That's wrong. California EDD requires you to make three job search contacts per week UNLESS you're officially approved for standby status. If you're just kind of assuming you'll be back next season without a formal standby approval, you need to be doing those job searches and logging them.

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Okay this is news to me. How do I even apply for standby status and would that make sense for my situation where I'm not going back for like 7-8 months?

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Standby is really only meant for temporary layoffs of a few weeks to a couple months. For an 8 month off-season you'd almost certainly be on regular UI with standard job search requirements. You'd apply through UI Online when certifying weekly claims.

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ugh the job search requirement is SO annoying when you know where you're working next season. makes zero sense

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I know it feels pointless but technically you're supposed to be genuinely available for any suitable work during the benefit period, not just waiting for your old job to start back up

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When I was in a similar situation I actually had trouble getting through to EDD to ask a specific question about my claim before filing. Spent literally three days calling and couldn't get a live agent. Someone on a different forum recommended Claimyr (claimyr.com) and it was a game changer - they navigate the EDD phone system and get you connected to an actual agent. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 that shows exactly how it works. I used it to get clarification on my base period wages before filing and it saved me from filing incorrectly.

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I've heard EDD phone lines are basically impossible to get through. Is this legit? Might need to call before I file to make sure I understand my specific situation.

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100% legit, I was skeptical too. Saved me a ton of time and stress when I needed an actual human to answer my specific question about seasonal employment.

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gonna look into this, have been trying to reach EDD for two weeks about something unrelated and its been a nightmare

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ok so i also do seasonal work (theme park) and have a dumb question - does my employer like REPORT to edd that im seasonal or does edd just figure it out from my work history or what? worried about getting flagged or something

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Your employer reports your wages and separation to EDD when you file. They can contest your claim and claim you're expected to return to work, which might trigger an adjudication review. But that's not necessarily bad - it just means EDD reviews the specifics of your situation before approving. Most seasonal layoffs get resolved appropriately.

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oh okay so if my employer fights it that could cause problems? my manager was kinda vague about whether im coming back

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If there's ambiguity about rehire status that could cause a temporary hold while EDD sorts it out. Best to file and let the process play out rather than preemptively not filing.

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seasonal worker here - i got approved last year but my claim went into adjudication for almost 3 weeks before i saw any payment. EDD wanted to verify the nature of my layoff. just be prepared for a potential wait even if you qualify

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Three weeks with no income would be really stressful. Did they ever explain what triggered the adjudication?

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i think my employer checked a box wrong on their end. eventually got sorted out and i got back pay for the weeks i was waiting so it worked out

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Back pay for adjudication period is standard - you won't lose benefits just because of a processing delay as long as you keep certifying every week

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I used to work ski resorts too and went through this multiple times. The thing nobody tells you is that you should FILE IMMEDIATELY when your last day hits. Don't wait a week or two thinking about it. Your benefit year starts from when you file, not when you stopped working. Every week you delay is potentially a week of benefits you can't get back.

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Oh wow I did not know that. I've been sitting on this for two weeks already kind of procrastinating. Going to file tonight.

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yeah get on it! you can backdate to your last day of work but there's a limit to how far back you can go. sooner is always better

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This is really good advice that more people need to hear. The clock starts ticking immediately.

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I learned this the hard way and lost like 2 weeks of benefits. don't repeat my mistake

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Can someone clarify something - if I do seasonal farm work through a labor contractor rather than directly for a farm, does that change anything with California EDD? My cousin works through a staffing agency that places workers seasonally and she's confused about who her 'employer' is for EDD purposes

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Great question - for EDD purposes the employer of record is whoever has been reporting her wages and withholding taxes. If the labor contractor/staffing agency was her legal employer (which is common in agricultural placement situations), they'd be the one EDD contacts. She should check her W-2s to see who the employer name is.

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okay that makes sense. her W2 shows the staffing agency name so probably them then

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That's correct. And staffing agency seasonal workers can absolutely qualify for UI when their assignment ends - same rules apply.

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HONESTLY California EDD is such a mess when it comes to seasonal workers. I filed last year and they sent me a questionnaire asking like 50 questions about whether I expected to return to work, whether my employer promised rehire, whether I was in a union, whether there was a collective bargaining agreement... took me a week to gather all the info they wanted. Just be mentally prepared for extra documentation requests.

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That sounds exhausting. Did you end up getting approved after all that?

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yes eventually but it was like 5 weeks of back and forth. their questionnaires are ABSURD

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The seasonal employment questionnaire is their way of determining whether you fall under any special rules, like if your union contract has a recall provision or if you're considered a 'seasonal worker' in a specific legal sense that could affect eligibility. Annoying but it does serve a purpose.

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I guess but the way they phrase the questions is so confusing. I answered one wrong the first time and had to send a correction

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Something worth knowing: the weekly certification questions can feel tricky for seasonal workers. When it asks 'did you refuse any work this week' - don't overthink it. As long as you didn't literally turn down a job offer you're fine. And 'were you available for work' means you were physically and mentally able to work, not that you have a job lined up.

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I was literally going to overthink the certification questions. Thank you for clarifying this.

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I used to answer those questions so wrong because I didn't understand what they were actually asking. got a scary letter from EDD once

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Yeah the wording on those questions hasn't been updated in forever and it trips people up constantly. When in doubt, answer for what actually happened that week, not for what you plan to do.

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for the job search log requirement - in california you need 3 contacts per week. they don't have to be responses to specific job postings, it can be things like submitting applications online, networking contacts, going to a job fair, registering with a staffing agency. keep records of everything because EDD can audit your job search activity even months later

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Do I need to submit the job search records when I certify or just keep them at home?

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Keep them at home. You only submit them if EDD requests an audit, but they need to be legit records - employer name, contact method, date, position applied for. Some people keep a spreadsheet.

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Pro tip: CalJOBS is the state job search system and creating an account there and applying through it counts toward your job search requirement AND it's already documented in the system

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just want to share that i was in this exact situation - seasonal hotel worker, filed for UI, got approved in about 10 days. the whole process was way smoother than i expected honestly. California EDD sometimes gets a bad rap but my experience filing was pretty straightforward

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This is encouraging to hear! I feel like I only see the horror stories online.

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I mean the horror stories are real too lol but not everyone has a nightmare experience. file correctly and completely and a lot of the issues don't come up

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Agree. Most adjudication headaches come from incomplete applications or employers who contest claims. Straightforward seasonal layoffs often just... get approved.

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Going through adjudication RIGHT NOW as a seasonal worker and I'm losing my mind. Filed 4 weeks ago, no payment, can't get through on the phone to find out what's happening. My online account just says 'pending' with no other information. Anyone dealt with this?

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I was in this exact situation and couldn't get answers through the regular phone lines. Ended up using Claimyr to get through to an actual EDD agent - the website is claimyr.com and there's a demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. The agent I spoke with was able to tell me exactly what was causing my adjudication hold and what I needed to do. Worth trying if you're stuck.

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I've literally spent 6+ hours on hold across different days and either get disconnected or told to call back later. Will try this.

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4 weeks is frustrating but not unusual for adjudication unfortunately. make sure you're still certifying every week while you wait - if you stop certifying you lose those weeks even when the adjudication clears

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does anyone know if there's a limit to how many seasons worth of UI you can collect? like if i do this same ski resort job every year can I file every off-season indefinitely

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There's no lifetime cap on how many times you can collect UI in California. Each new benefit year is evaluated on its own merits based on wages earned in the relevant base period. As long as you keep earning sufficient wages each season and meet the eligibility requirements, you can file each off-season.

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okay that's good to know. some of my coworkers thought there was like a 3-time limit or something

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No limit like that exists. The 3-strikes myth gets repeated a lot but it's not accurate California EDD policy.

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I've filed 4 off-seasons in a row and never had any issue related to 'collecting too often.' each year starts fresh.

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bit of an aside but has anyone done the reemployment services appointments that EDD sometimes requires? i got a notice saying i have to attend an online orientation and I'm confused about what happens if i skip it

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Don't skip it - missing a required reemployment services appointment can result in disqualification from benefits. It's usually pretty quick, like an hour online. They go over job search resources and expectations.

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ugh okay I'll do it. what do they actually make you do in it

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Mostly just watch/listen to information about job search resources, labor market info, that kind of thing. At the end they usually have you confirm you understand the job search requirements. Pretty low stakes, just don't miss it.

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random question - do tips count as wages for EDD purposes? I work at a resort restaurant and a big chunk of my income is tips that technically get reported on my taxes

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Yes, reported tips count as wages for EDD base period calculations. If your employer included them in your W-2 or if you reported them on your taxes as income, they should be reflected in your wage record with EDD. If there's a discrepancy you can request a wage audit.

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okay good. i was worried my benefit amount would be super low if they only counted my hourly wage

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This is actually an important point - if you think your reported wages look wrong in UI Online you can contest the wage record. Worth checking before your claim gets processed.

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Adding to this thread because I just went through the whole seasonal worker UI process in California and want to share what actually tripped me up. My employer put a 'rehire date' on their paperwork to EDD even though they never gave me a specific date - they just assumed I'd be back. EDD contacted me about it and I had to clarify that there was no formal job offer or guaranteed return date. Once I explained that in writing my claim moved forward. So just know that your employer's response to EDD can affect your timeline.

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This is really useful to know. I should probably have a quick conversation with my manager to understand what they plan to report to EDD.

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Honestly yes - not to coordinate your stories but just to understand the situation accurately. If your employer says 'definite rehire' and you say 'no commitment' that flags an inconsistency that causes delays.

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And if you end up in a situation where your employer's report triggers an extended adjudication review, getting a live EDD agent on the phone can really speed things up. That's when it's worth trying services like Claimyr (claimyr.com) to cut through the phone system wait times.

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agreed - the one time I needed to actually talk to someone about the discrepancy, being able to reach a live agent made a huge difference vs waiting weeks for a decision

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I'm a little confused reading this thread - is California EDD unemployment different from disability insurance (SDI)? someone at my resort told me to file for disability during the off-season and I didn't understand why they'd say that

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They're completely different programs. UI (unemployment insurance) is for people who lost their job through no fault of their own and are able and available to work. SDI (State Disability Insurance) is for people who can't work due to a non-work-related illness or injury. If you're healthy and just between seasonal jobs, UI is what you want - SDI would only apply if you're actually unable to work for medical reasons.

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ohhhh okay that makes way more sense. I was so confused about why disability would apply to me. I'll file for UI.

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your coworker might have been confused or maybe they had a specific situation (like an injury during the season) that made SDI relevant for them. definitely different programs for different situations

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Update for anyone following - I finally filed after reading this thread and a bunch of similar discussions. Used UI Online, took about 25 minutes to complete the application, and it was much less confusing than I expected. Claim status currently shows as pending. Will update when I hear something.

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Oh interesting - I think I might be this thread's original poster lol. Did you run into any questions that tripped you up during the application?

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The part about 'separation reason' had me second-guessing myself but I just said 'lack of work/end of season' and it seemed fine. The base period wage section was auto-populated which was helpful.

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Good luck! Pending is normal at first, usually resolves within 1-3 weeks for straightforward seasonal layoffs. Just keep certifying every week starting from when EDD tells you your first certification week is.

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this thread is so helpful, bookmarking it. i've been doing seasonal harvest work for 8 years and always just didn't file because i assumed i didn't qualify. going to actually try this year

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Please do! You may have left years of benefits on the table. The eligibility rules genuinely do cover seasonal agricultural workers - file and see what happens.

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yeah i feel kinda dumb for assuming all these years. the whole 'seasonal workers can't get unemployment' thing just seemed like common sense that turned out to be wrong

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You're not alone - this misconception is incredibly widespread. Better to find out now than never. Good luck with your claim.

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same thing happened to me, filed for the first time after 6 seasons assuming i didn't qualify. got approved. wish i'd known earlier

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