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Can you refile for unemployment with California EDD after benefits run out?

So my regular UI benefits finally ran out last week after collecting for about 11 months. I got my last payment and now the claim just shows as exhausted on UI Online. Here's the thing though - I still haven't found steady work. I had a few gigs here and there doing warehouse temp work but nothing permanent stuck. My question is whether I can actually refile for unemployment with California EDD after my benefits run out or if I'm just completely done. I've been searching online and getting mixed answers. Some places say you can open a new claim if you've worked enough since your last claim opened, others say you have to wait a full year. I logged into UI Online and it's not giving me any clear option to file a new claim - just showing the exhausted status. Has anyone actually gone through this process of trying to refile after exhausting benefits? What did California EDD tell you when you asked them directly?

Yes you can absolutely refile but there are specific requirements you have to meet first. California EDD will look at your base period earnings - basically they need to see you earned enough wages in a new base period since your original claim was filed. The standard base period covers the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you file. So if your original claim opened say early 2024, your new claim would look at a completely different set of quarters for earnings. The key thing is you need at least $1,300 in your highest quarter, OR at least $900 in your highest quarter AND total base period earnings of 1.25 times your high quarter earnings. If those temp warehouse jobs paid you enough during the right quarters, you might qualify for a whole new benefit year.

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That's really helpful, thank you. So the temp work I did might actually count toward qualifying for a new claim? Even though it was just here and there and not a full time job?

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Yes, any W-2 wages reported by employers count. Even part-time and temp work gets reported to the state. The issue is whether the total amounts hit those thresholds. I'd honestly just file and let California EDD calculate it - worst case they deny it and tell you why.

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Also worth noting that your new weekly benefit amount would be recalculated based on your new base period wages, so if you only worked temp jobs it might be lower than your previous benefit amount. Just something to keep in mind when you're planning.

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went through this exact situation last spring. my benefits ran out in february and i had done some contract work between claims so i refiled in march. honestly the process was the same as filing originally - just go to UI Online and start a new claim. it doesnt automatically offer you the option, you have to actually initiate a new claim filing. took about 2 weeks for mine to get processed and approved

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Did it go into adjudication or did it just process normally? I'm worried about delays because I really need income.

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mine went straight through no adjudication, but i think that depends on your specific situation. if there's anything complicated about your work history it might trigger a review

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same here, filed a second claim after my first exhausted and it processed pretty fast. i think when you have a previous clean claim history it helps

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Before you refile you should definitely try calling California EDD to ask specifically whether you qualify based on your earnings. The online system won't tell you if you're eligible before you apply, it just lets you file and then they figure it out. But speaking from experience getting through to an actual EDD rep on the phone is basically impossible if you just try calling the main line. I spent like 3 weeks trying to get through before I found out about Claimyr - it's a service that holds your place in the call queue and has an agent call you back when it's your turn instead of you sitting on hold forever. I was finally able to actually talk to someone about my situation. Their site is claimyr.com and there's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - honestly worth checking out if you need to actually speak with EDD about whether you qualify to refile.

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I've been trying to call for days and can't get through at all. This is really frustrating. I'll check out that Claimyr thing, thanks.

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seconding this, the EDD phone lines are genuinely impossible to get through on. i spent an entire morning redialing and never once got into a queue

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does claimyr actually work? seems almost too good to be true that there's a service that can just get you through to edd

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I was skeptical too honestly but yes it worked for me. I got a call back from an actual EDD agent within a few hours and was able to ask all my questions about my claim situation.

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I want to clarify something because I've seen a lot of confusion about this topic - refiling after exhaustion is NOT the same as an extension. Extensions like the old federal extended benefits program don't currently exist (those ended after the pandemic period). When people talk about refiling they mean opening a brand new benefit year claim, which requires meeting the earnings requirements all over again from a new base period. You can't just restart your old claim or get more weeks added to it. The only way to get more unemployment benefits at this point is to qualify for a completely new claim based on new wages earned since your previous claim opened.

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THANK YOU for saying this. I see people on here constantly confusing extended benefits with refiling and they are completely different things. extended benefits arent available right now

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Yeah I wasn't expecting any extension, I understood I'd need to qualify fresh. The question was really whether my temp work earned me enough to qualify for a new claim.

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That's the right framing. And like someone said above, just file and let EDD run the numbers. The worst outcome is a denial with an explanation of what you were short by.

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ok so real talk - i exhausted my benefits in september, had done some doordash and some actual W2 temp work. when i refiled california edd said i qualified based on the W2 work but the doordash didn't count because i was classified as an independent contractor. ended up with a new claim but the weekly benefit amount was way lower than my original claim because my qualifying wages were just the temp job stuff. something to watch out for if any of your work was gig economy / 1099 type stuff

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Oh this is important - yeah the warehouse temp work was definitely W2, they were through a staffing agency. The occasional gig stuff was 1099 though. Good to know that won't count.

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yeah staffing agency work is W2 so that counts, you should be in decent shape. just run the numbers yourself before you get excited - your weekly benefit amount on the new claim might be lower

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this is such a good point, i made the same mistake thinking all my work would count and was surprised when the gig economy stuff wasn't factored in

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Does anyone know if you have to wait for your benefit year to officially end before refiling or can you refile as soon as benefits are exhausted? Like my claim shows exhausted but the benefit year end date on my paperwork is still a few months away. I'm in a similar situation to OP and not sure if I need to wait.

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Good question - technically you can file a new claim even before your benefit year ends if your current claim is exhausted. California EDD will still evaluate your eligibility based on a new base period. You don't have to wait until the benefit year end date on your current claim.

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Oh that's really helpful! So I don't have to just sit and wait until that date. I'll go ahead and try filing.

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just be careful because if you file too early and your base period doesn't have enough wages yet, you could get denied. might be worth doing the math on your quarters first

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I just want to add - when you refile make sure you update your contact information and banking info in UI Online before you submit. I refiled after my benefits ran out and my old direct deposit account had been closed since then. Caused a huge headache getting the first payment redirected. Little thing but it tripped me up.

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Good practical tip, thanks. I think my banking info is the same but I'll double-check before I submit.

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Yeah just a quick thing to verify. Also double check your address if you've moved at all since the original claim.

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the whole process is honestly so stressful. i feel like california edd makes it deliberately confusing to figure out whether you even qualify to refile. there's no clear guidance on their website that walks you through 'your claim is exhausted, here are your next options.' you just kind of have to piece it together from forums like this and hope you're getting accurate info. i'm in the same boat as OP and have been spiraling about it all week

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Completely feel this. The EDD website is incredibly unhelpful when it comes to explaining next steps after exhaustion. Like they could have a page dedicated to this exact scenario that thousands of people go through and... nothing.

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I agree the website could be much clearer. For what it's worth the most reliable info is on the EDD website under 'How Unemployment Insurance Benefits Are Computed' - it has the actual base period wage requirements. It's buried but it's there.

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yeah i finally found that page after like an hour of searching. would it kill them to have a prominent link to it from the UI Online dashboard when a claim exhausts lol

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Something nobody has mentioned - when you refile you'll need to go through the full certification of job search activities again from the start. Like you can't just pick up where you left off. New claim means new job search requirements and you'll need to document your search activities each week. If you'd been doing standby status on your old claim that doesn't carry over either.

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That makes sense. I've been applying to jobs anyway so the job search log won't be an issue. I just want to make sure I understand the whole process before I jump in.

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Yeah just wanted to flag it because I know some people assume it's a simple restart. It's really a fresh claim with all the same initial requirements.

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Also note that your waiting week - that first unpaid week - applies again to a new claim. Some people are surprised when they certify that first week and get $0.

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tried calling edd about this for like two weeks straight when my claim exhausted. could never get through. finally a coworker told me about Claimyr and I used it to actually get an agent on the phone. the agent confirmed exactly what people here are saying - you can refile if you have new base period wages. she actually walked me through calculating whether my wages would qualify before i even filed. that kind of direct answer is worth so much compared to just guessing. claimyr.com if you need it - saved me so much time and stress.

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Having an agent actually walk you through the calculation beforehand sounds amazing. I might do this before I file so I'm not going in blind.

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Highly recommend it. The agent was actually really helpful once I got through to one - the problem is just getting through. Claimyr solved that part.

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I used it too when I had an adjudication issue on a new claim and it was genuinely easy to use. Got my questions answered same day which would have taken weeks of trying to call on my own.

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One thing I'll add from my own experience - when I refiled, California EDD initially set my base period using the standard method but I actually qualified for a higher benefit amount using the alternate base period (the most recent four completed quarters instead of the standard first-four-of-last-five). Not everyone knows you can request the alternate base period calculation. Might be worth asking about if your most recent work history is stronger than the prior year.

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This is a really important point that gets overlooked a lot. The alternate base period exists specifically for situations where your recent wages are higher than the standard base period would capture. You have to request it though, EDD won't automatically use it.

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I didn't know this was a thing at all. My temp work was fairly recent so the alternate base period might actually work better for me. I'll ask about this when I call.

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Yeah bring it up when you talk to them. It won't always make a difference but in some cases it can either get you qualified when standard wouldn't or increase your weekly benefit amount.

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just filed my second claim two months ago after my first exhausted. process was pretty smooth actually. went through UI Online, selected new claim, answered all the questions about my most recent employer and layoff reason. got approved about 10 days later. weekly benefit is lower than my first claim but at least i qualified. good luck OP

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This is encouraging, thank you. Did you have to submit any documentation or did they just process it based on what you entered?

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they processed it from what i entered - no additional documents requested in my case. but i've seen others say they got requests for wage verification so it probably depends on your work history

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mine was the same, no documents requested. i think EDD can verify most wage info directly with employers through the state system

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Wait I'm confused - if your benefits exhausted does that mean california EDD stopped them or that you used all the weeks available? Because those are different situations right? One is voluntary kind of and one is just running out of time

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Exhausted means you used all available weeks in your benefit year. California's regular UI provides up to 26 weeks. Using all 26 weeks is 'exhaustion.' Having your claim stopped for a disqualification or other issue is different - that's a disqualification or suspension. They have different paths forward.

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oh ok that makes sense. i thought OP might have been disqualified which would be a whole different situation with appeals and stuff

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Yeah I genuinely exhausted all 26 weeks. No disqualification, just ran out of weeks.

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honestly the most stressful part of exhausting benefits for me was the gap between when my last payment came in and when the new claim got approved. that gap period with no income while waiting on the new claim determination was really rough. just mentally prepare yourself for that. hopefully it's quick for you but budget for potentially 2-3 weeks with nothing coming in

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Yeah I've been trying to prepare for that. Do you know if there's any way to expedite processing for a new claim or is it just whatever timeline they have?

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From what I know there's no real way to expedite. If you can talk to an agent they can sometimes flag urgent situations but I'm not sure what qualifies as urgent enough for them to prioritize

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This is actually a good reason to call EDD directly if you're in a financial hardship situation. An agent can sometimes note hardship on your claim. That's another case where getting through to an agent via Claimyr would help - claimyr.com - because waiting weeks to just GET someone on the phone makes the income gap even longer.

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for what its worth i went through this last year and ended up qualifying for a new claim but the benefit year thing confused me so much. my original benefit year ran out before i filed the new claim and i was worried that meant i missed some window or something. turned out it doesn't matter, there's no deadline to refile, you just lose potential benefit weeks you could have claimed if you had filed sooner. so don't delay once you know you have qualifying wages

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This is actually a relief to hear. I was worried I'd already missed some deadline by not filing the day my claim exhausted.

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nope, no hard deadline. but every week you could have been claiming that you didn't file is a week of benefits you can't recover. so file sooner rather than later once you know you qualify

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One more practical thing - when you certify for your first weeks on the new claim, if you did any work during the weeks after your old claim exhausted, report those earnings accurately. Some people think since there was no active claim they don't need to report work done during that gap. You do. California EDD will ask about work and earnings for each week going back to the claim start date and you need to be accurate or you risk an overpayment issue down the road.

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Good point. I did do a couple days of warehouse work after my old claim ran out. I'll make sure to report that properly.

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Yeah just report it when you certify, it's totally normal and expected. It just reduces your payment for those weeks proportionally rather than disqualifying you.

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Accurate. The EDD overpayment process is genuinely painful to deal with and almost always comes from people not reporting earnings correctly. Not worth the headache - always report accurately.

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UPDATE: I went ahead and filed my new claim this morning (i'd asked earlier in this thread about whether to wait for benefit year end). UI Online accepted the filing with no issues and it's now showing as pending determination. That was much easier than I expected honestly. Will update when I hear back on the determination.

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Oh great! Please do update, it'll be helpful to know the timeline you experience.

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will do! fingers crossed it goes through quickly

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Good luck! Based on others' experiences it should process within a week or two if your wages are clean

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FINAL UPDATE from me: I went ahead and filed the new claim through UI Online last night. The process was pretty smooth - took maybe 20 minutes. I listed the staffing agency as my most recent employer and the claim is now in pending status. I used Claimyr to get through to a California EDD agent this morning (claimyr.com worked great, got a callback in about 3 hours) and the agent confirmed I have enough wages in my base period to qualify for a new benefit year. She said my WBA will be lower than my previous claim since I only have the temp wages to calculate from but I should be getting a determination letter within 7-10 business days. I'll post back when the determination comes through. Thanks everyone for all the help in this thread, you all genuinely helped me understand the process way better than anything I found on the official EDD site.

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Great outcome! Glad it worked out. Your situation was really a textbook case of the refile process working as intended. Good luck with the determination.

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So glad you got clarity on it. The income gap is still gonna suck but at least you know you're getting approved.

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Glad Claimyr helped! Having that direct confirmation from an agent before your determination letter arrives is such a stress reducer. Good luck with the new claim.

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This whole thread is super helpful, glad OP updated. Saving this for my own situation coming up in a few months.

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