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Noah Ali

Can you get unemployment if you are part time and your hours get cut even more?

So I've been working part time at a shipping warehouse for about two years, usually pulling around 24 hours a week. Last month my supervisor cut me down to 8 hours with zero warning - just said business was slow and that was that. I'm making maybe $190 a week now versus the $410 I was bringing home before. I looked at the EDD site and I genuinely cannot figure out if someone in my situation can even file. Everything seems written for people who lost their jobs entirely. Can you get unemployment if you are part time and only had your hours slashed instead of being let go completely? I have bills stacking up and I really need to know if this is worth trying.

Wait, hours got cut by that much and you haven't filed yet? Yes, you absolutely can file even if you're still working those 8 hours. EDD has a partial claim setup basically - you're still eligible to collect something for the difference between what you were making and what you're making now. The weekly benefit amount gets reduced by whatever you're earning, but there's a chunk of your earnings that doesn't count against you at all, so you'd still see money coming in. File through myEDD at https://myedd.edd.ca.gov/ as soon as you can because the claim only starts from the Sunday of the week you apply - they don't backdate it.

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Noah Ali

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So I should file even though I'm still going in those 8 hours? I was scared they'd say I'm not really unemployed enough or something.

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Yep file now. Partial unemployment is a real thing and your situation - hours cut way down through no fault of yours - is exactly what it covers. The sooner the better since there's no backdating.

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How does the math actually work for partial? Like does every dollar you earn knock a dollar off what EDD pays?

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Not dollar for dollar - there's a buffer. The first $25 or 25 percent of what you earned that week, whichever is bigger, gets ignored. Only the amount above that gets subtracted from your weekly benefit. So if EDD figured your weekly amount at say $280 and you earned $190 that week, 25 percent of $190 is $47.50, so they'd subtract $142.50 from your benefit and you'd get about $137 or so for that week. Worth filing for sure.

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Twelve weeks of trying to get EDD on the phone about my own partial claim situation and I finally got through. Part-time hours that got slashed down at a warehouse job too, same kind of deal - my claim had been sitting Pending in UI Online for weeks and I had no idea why. Claimyr (claimyr.com) handled the hold time and I ended up speaking with an actual EDD agent who pulled up my file. There's a video showing how reaching a live person at EDD works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. The agent told me my CalJOBS registration hadn't posted yet and that was holding up my pending weeks - I got it sorted same day and payments came through within 48 hours after that.

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Noah Ali

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Pending weeks are my biggest worry honestly. Did they tell you what specifically to check in CalJOBS to fix the registration issue?

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The agent said my resume wasn't marked as searchable in CalJOBS, which apparently is part of what EDD looks for. Once I updated that setting the hold cleared. Worth double checking yours once your claim is active.

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CalJOBS registration tripped me up too. The deadline to register is 21 days from the date on the notice they mail you - miss that and payments can stop. I didn't realize it wasn't optional.

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Does everyone on a partial claim have to do CalJOBS or just people who lost their jobs completely?

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Question for anyone who's done a partial claim - do you have to do work search activities every week even though you're already working your part time hours? That part confuses me because the whole point of work search is finding a job but you technically still have one.

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EDD still requires you to be available for more work and looking for work every week you certify, yes. Having part-time hours doesn't automatically get you out of it. You still certify every two weeks and answer whether you were able and available for work.

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Ugh okay. So even at 8 hours a week you're still supposed to be actively job hunting? That feels like a lot when you're hoping your old hours come back.

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The work search requirement is real. EDD doesn't publish a specific number of contacts you need to make each week but you do have to be genuinely available and looking. Some people keep a simple log of where they applied just for their own records.

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Noah Ali

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Does applying to get more hours AT your current employer count as a work search activity? Like if I formally ask my supervisor to restore my hours would that count?

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I went through almost this exact situation about eight months ago - partial cut at a retail job, went from 30 hours down to 10. Filed a partial claim and it took about three weeks before the first payment came through. The waiting week thing threw me because I thought the first week I certified I'd get paid for both weeks, but only one of them paid and I had to wait for the next certification to actually see money. Just heads up so you don't panic like I did when the first payment is half what you expected.

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Noah Ali

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Wait so the waiting week is still a thing even on partial claims? Not just for full unemployment?

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Yes the waiting week applies regardless. Every claim has that one unpaid first week. My first certification covered the waiting week plus week two, and I only got paid for week two. It stung but that's how it goes.

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Same thing happened to me and I called EDD thinking they messed up my payment. The rep explained the waiting week and I felt a little dumb but also relieved it wasn't an error. First payment always looks short for that reason.

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Does the waiting week count toward your 26 weeks total or is it kind of like a freebie that doesn't eat into your benefit balance?

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To answer the question above about the waiting week - it doesn't reduce the total amount your claim can pay. Your maximum benefit amount stays the same. The waiting week is just an unpaid period you serve at the beginning, it doesn't subtract from your benefit weeks.

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Oh that's actually good to know. So the 26 weeks worth of payments is still fully intact even after the waiting week. Thanks for clearing that up.

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I had no idea about this. I thought the waiting week was week one of your 26 weeks and you just didn't get paid for it.

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Nope - think of it as a separate unpaid qualifier period. Your benefit weeks and the money attached to them are still all there after you serve it.

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Does anyone know how EDD figures out what your weekly benefit amount would be for a partial claim? Like is it based on what you used to make at full hours or what you're making now at the reduced hours?

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It's based on your past earnings, not your current reduced pay. EDD looks at a base period - basically your wages from roughly the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you filed. The highest-paid quarter of that window is what drives the weekly benefit amount calculation. Your current 8 hours doesn't set the floor, your historical wages do. EDD has a calculator on its site where you can estimate it before you file.

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So if I was making good money back when I was full time, those older wages could actually give me a decent weekly amount even now? That's better than I thought.

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Exactly - the base period wage calculation often works in people's favor when they had stronger earnings in the past. File sooner rather than later because the base period shifts over time.

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Noah Ali

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This is really helpful. I was assuming EDD would base everything on my current garbage 8-hour pay and it would be almost nothing. Good to know the history matters.

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Heads up on certifying - EDD calls it certifying, every two weeks, not weekly. I see people mix that up constantly. You certify every two weeks and report all the wages you earned during those two weeks (when you earned them, not when the paycheck hit your account). Don't forget to include your part time wages every single time or it creates problems down the road.

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What happens if you forget to report wages one certification period? Like accidentally forget to include a week?

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You'd want to contact EDD through your UI Online account or phone them to correct it. There's a Report Wages option in UI Online but that only works before certifying for that period - once you've submitted, you have to reach out to EDD directly to fix it.

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The every-two-weeks thing confused me for my first month. I kept logging in after one week expecting to certify and nothing was available. Felt like I was doing something wrong.

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Real concern here - my employer cut my hours about six weeks ago and I haven't filed yet because I was nervous they'd retaliate or find out somehow. Does EDD notify your employer when you file a partial claim?

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EDD does notify the last employer, yes. They mail a notice to your employer when you file. That said, you're entitled to file - an employer cutting your hours involuntarily is exactly the situation partial claims exist for. Your employer can respond to EDD but they can't legally retaliate against you for filing a claim.

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Okay that's what I was afraid of. My situation is a little complicated because my manager and I already have tension. I'll have to think about whether the financial hit is worth the potential awkwardness.

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For what it's worth, most employers don't respond even when they get the notice. And the alternative is continuing to lose hundreds of dollars a week. The EDD process is there for exactly this situation.

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Something people skip over when filing a partial claim - have your wage history from every employer in the last 18 months ready when you apply, not just your current part-time job. EDD pulls wages across all employers in that window to calculate your base period. If you had a different job before this one, those wages count too and could raise your weekly benefit amount.

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Noah Ali

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Oh I did work somewhere else before this warehouse job. About 10 months ago I was at a distribution center for a few months before switching. Would those wages factor in?

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Almost certainly yes if they fall in your base period window. When you apply, list every employer from the last 18 months with dates and wages. EDD will pull the records and determine what counts. Those months at the distribution center could meaningfully raise your benefit amount.

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This happened to me too - I had a gap job during my base period I almost didn't mention and it ended up pushing my weekly amount higher. Definitely report everything.

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Has anyone had their partial claim go into adjudication? Mine did after about two weeks and I can't figure out why. I reported my wages correctly both times I certified, nothing changed about my job, I just woke up and the weeks were Pending in UI Online Claim History with no explanation.

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Pending in Claim History usually means EDD is working something out on eligibility or needs to verify something. It doesn't always mean you did something wrong. Could be the employer responded to the claim notice with something that triggered a review, or it could be a CalJOBS registration thing. The only real way to know is to reach EDD directly.

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I've been trying to get through on the phone for four days with no luck. Keeps dumping me after a long hold. Any other way to reach them?

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Live chat through the Help button in UI Online runs Monday through Friday, 9 to 2. It's hit or miss but I've had better luck with it than the phone on some days. 1-800-300-5616 at exactly 8am Monday sometimes gets through faster too.

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I got through to EDD about a pending adjudication on my own partial hours claim - my employer had contested my hours reduction claim, saying it was voluntary. The agent walked me through what the interview process would look like. Used Claimyr to get past the hold situation and ended up talking to someone in under an hour. The agent said a DE 4800 notice would come in the mail with my scheduled phone interview date and I'd need to explain the circumstances of the hours cut from my side.

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That's exactly the situation I'm worried about - my employer contesting it. Did the agent give you any sense of what to say in the interview?

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The agent said just be specific and factual: dates, who told me about the cut, what reason was given. The interview is where EDD hears both sides, so having a clear timeline of what happened matters.

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Noah Ali

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If the employer says the hours cut was voluntary and you say it wasn't, does EDD just believe whoever they want or is there a process?

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From what the agent told me, EDD interviews both you and the employer separately and makes a decision based on what both sides say. If EDD decides you don't qualify they'd mail a Notice of Determination and you can appeal within 30 days if you disagree.

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Can I ask a dumb question - is the partial claim the same as filing for regular unemployment? Like do I go to the same place on the EDD site and just answer differently, or is there a totally separate application for partial situations?

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Same application, same myEDD portal. When you're filling out the application you just accurately describe your situation - still employed, hours reduced involuntarily, here are my wages. EDD handles classifying it on their end. There isn't a separate partial claim form you have to find.

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Okay that makes it less intimidating. I kept looking for a separate partial UI form and couldn't find one so I thought maybe I wasn't eligible at all.

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I made the same assumption. Thought partial claims were some special harder-to-qualify program. It's just the regular application with your actual current situation described honestly.

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Does severance pay affect a partial claim? My hours got cut and my employer also offered a small severance package for the reduced hours period. Not sure if accepting that money messes up my ability to collect on a partial claim.

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Severance paid under a company plan or policy generally isn't treated as wages by EDD for unemployment purposes, so it doesn't automatically disqualify you. That said, EDD still wants you to report it when you certify - EDD's list of things to report when certifying includes severance pay. EDD decides how it affects any given payment. You can file your partial claim right away and report the severance as the certifications ask you to.

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So I shouldn't just not mention it and hope for the best? I was nervous that disclosing it would tank my payments.

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Always report what EDD asks for. Not reporting income when certifying is the kind of thing that creates overpayment notices later, which is a much bigger headache than whatever impact reporting it might have on a given week's payment.

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Noah Ali

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Can I ask a related thing - my employer offered me extra hours during one week as a one-time thing to cover for a coworker. If I work more hours that one week does it mess up the whole claim?

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To answer the question above about extra hours one week - it won't wreck your whole claim. You just report the actual wages you earned during that certification period honestly. If you earned more that week your payment for that period adjusts down accordingly, but once you're back to the reduced hours the following weeks go back to normal. The claim doesn't close just because one week had higher earnings.

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Noah Ali

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That's a relief. I was worried that if I picked up an extra shift once I'd somehow lose the whole claim and have to start over.

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EDD recalculates every certification period based on what you actually earned. One higher week doesn't void anything. The system is set up to handle exactly this kind of variation in part-time work.

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Does full-time hours for one week end that week's eligibility entirely? Like if you happened to work 40 hours one week?

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Full-time work does end eligibility for that specific week - whatever it pays. The partial earnings formula is for part-time weeks only. But again, one full-time week doesn't kill the claim, you'd just not receive a payment for that particular week.

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Jumped in this thread because I was in this exact boat three months ago and want to share what actually happened. Filed a partial claim, got the DE 429Z in the mail about two weeks after applying showing my weekly benefit amount of $310. Combined with my reduced hours wages I ended up with enough to cover rent. CalJOBS registration was the one thing that almost derailed it - took me until day 19 to register and I got a letter warning me my payments could be stopped. Got it done right away and nothing was interrupted but it was a close call.

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Noah Ali

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Day 19 is cutting it close - the deadline is 21 days from the notice date right? Did they actually mail you a warning or did you just notice in time?

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They mailed a warning, yes. The notice I got about registering in CalJOBS had the 21-day deadline printed on it and I'd kind of set it aside. The warning letter spooked me enough to log into CalJOBS that same afternoon.

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What does the DE 429Z actually show? I keep seeing it mentioned but I'm not sure what information is on it.

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It shows your weekly benefit amount and your maximum benefit amount for the claim. It's not an approval exactly - EDD still has to decide you're eligible week by week when you certify - but it tells you what your claim is set up to pay if everything goes through.

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Taxes are worth mentioning since nobody has brought it up. Unemployment benefits are federal taxable income. EDD gives you the option to have 10 percent withheld for federal taxes each time you certify - I'd take it if you can afford the smaller payments, otherwise you might owe at filing time. California itself doesn't tax unemployment benefits so at least there's that.

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Wait California doesn't tax unemployment? I did not know that. I've been mentally budgeting for state tax on those payments and I can free up some of that buffer.

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Correct - exempt from California state income tax. Federal is what you have to plan for. EDD mails a 1099G every January and it's also in UI Online under Payments.

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The withholding option is worth taking seriously. I didn't withhold when I collected a few years ago and ended up with an unexpected federal tax bill in the spring. This time I'm withholding from day one.

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My situation is a little different - my hours were cut but I also got a small pension payment starting at the same time from a previous employer. Does pension income affect a partial unemployment claim the same way wages do?

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Pension income based on past work can reduce your weekly benefit, but EDD decides how much of a reduction happens on your specific claim - there isn't a fixed formula you can calculate yourself. When you certify you'd report the pension payment and EDD applies its own calculation. Worth filing your partial claim and reporting both the wages and the pension as asked - don't leave either out.

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So I should still file and just report everything honestly and let EDD sort it out? I wasn't sure if the pension would just automatically disqualify me from getting anything.

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Filing and reporting accurately is always the right move. Disqualification from a pension situation isn't automatic - EDD makes that call based on the specifics. The only way to know what your actual payment would be is to file and see.

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How does EDD even know what pension you're receiving - does your old employer report it or do you self-report when certifying?

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Nobody has mentioned this but you should know about the DE 1101CZ notice your employer gets when you file. EDD mails it to them pretty quickly and they have a window to respond. If they respond saying something different from what you told EDD - like claiming your hours were cut voluntarily - that's what triggers the phone interview and the pending weeks. Knowing this helps you understand why a claim that looks clean from your side can still go pending.

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This explains what happened to mine. I filed, everything looked fine for two weeks, then suddenly my weeks went Pending. Must be when my employer responded.

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That timing matches exactly. EDD's review kicks in when conflicting information comes in from both sides. The phone interview is how they sort it out - both you and the employer give EDD your versions and EDD decides from there.

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Is there any way to know what your employer said in their response to EDD? Or is it just a black box until the interview?

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The DE 4800 interview notice EDD sends you will list the questions likely to be asked, which gives you a signal about what issues EDD is looking into. But you don't get to see the employer's actual response before the interview.

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Partial claim update from my own situation since this thread helped me decide to file - applied 11 days ago, got my DE 429Z showing $265 weekly, registered in CalJOBS within the first week, certified my first two-week period yesterday. Waiting week and one paid week this certification period, so my first payment should be for one week at $265 minus my partial wages for those two weeks. It's actually working the way everyone here described. The myEDD portal is pretty clear once you're in it.

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Noah Ali

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This is so helpful to hear from someone who just went through it. Did you have any issues with identity verification when you applied or did it go smoothly?

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Had to verify through ID.me, which took about 20 minutes but wasn't terrible. Had my state ID and went through their photo process. The claim wasn't active until that was done so don't skip it.

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The ID.me step tripped a lot of people up when EDD first implemented it. Sounds like it's smoother now. Good to hear you're through to the payment stage.

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My ID.me verification had a glitch and EDD sent me a DE 1326C in the mail asking me to verify separately. Took almost a week extra. If yours goes through ID.me clean you're ahead of where I was.

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One thing I want to flag about work search while on a partial claim - someone above said EDD doesn't publish a specific number of contacts required and that's right. But you still have to honestly answer yes to being available and looking for work when you certify. If you're hoping your hours get restored and you're not actually looking for other jobs, that's a tension worth thinking through. Certifying that you're looking for work when you're not is the kind of thing that can create problems if EDD ever audits.

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This is a real point. I asked EDD about it on live chat and the agent said being available means being genuinely open to accepting full-time work somewhere else if it came along. If you're only waiting for your old hours back and would turn down other jobs, that gets complicated.

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Exactly - availability for work is a weekly eligibility requirement, not a checkbox. It needs to be true when you certify it.

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Noah Ali

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I am genuinely looking for a different job with better hours, so this isn't an issue for me. But I could see how someone hoping their employer just fixes things would get into a gray area here.

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The honest answer to that is to actually apply to jobs while you're on the partial claim. Even if you'd prefer your old hours back, being active in the market keeps your certification truthful and gives you options.

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About five months into my own partial claim situation, my employer actually restored my hours back to full time. Didn't know I needed to do anything specific when that happened. Turns out you just stop certifying - full-time work ends your weekly eligibility. I called EDD to confirm since I was paranoid about somehow double-dipping, and an agent confirmed I should just not certify the weeks I was back to full time. Used Claimyr to reach EDD since the phone lines were packed that week and ended up talking to someone who confirmed the status of my claim and that my benefit year was still open if anything changed again.

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Noah Ali

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If the full-time hours get cut again later, can you reopen the same claim or do you have to file all over again?

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The agent confirmed I could reopen the existing claim through UI Online as long as my benefit year was still open. Much faster than starting from scratch. The benefit year runs 52 weeks from when you originally filed.

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This is actually reassuring - I was afraid that if I took extra hours for a few weeks I'd have to refile completely when they went back down.

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CalFresh is worth looking into alongside a partial claim if money is really tight. Unemployment benefits count as income when you apply, so they'd factor into the eligibility calculation, but you can still qualify for food assistance while receiving unemployment payments. Apply through BenefitsCal or call 1-877-847-3663 - the county decides the amount based on your full income picture including the unemployment payments.

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Noah Ali

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I hadn't even thought about CalFresh as an option alongside unemployment. I'll look into it - at the wage I'm at right now I might qualify.

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Worth a check. The income thresholds are set by the county so the only way to know is to actually apply or call and ask. Some people assume they won't qualify and don't apply when they would have.

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Used BenefitsCal last year during a job gap and the application is pretty straightforward. They ask for income documentation including any unemployment award letters so have your DE 429Z handy.

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For anyone still on the phone access struggle - I had three weeks of Pending weeks and no luck reaching EDD, tried Claimyr and got an EDD agent on the line who actually looked up my claim. The issue was my identity verification through ID.me hadn't synced with my claim properly even though ID.me showed me as verified on their end. The agent flagged it internally and my pending weeks cleared within two business days.

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The ID.me sync issue is exactly what I think happened with mine. Did the agent say how common that is or was your situation unusual?

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The agent said it comes up enough that they have a process for it. If ID.me shows verified on your end but EDD still shows pending, calling in and having an agent manually check is the fix.

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So there are cases where you do everything right - ID.me verification, CalJOBS, certifying - and it still gets stuck because of a backend sync issue? That's frustrating.

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Pretty much. The only real indicator something is wrong is Pending weeks in Claim History and nothing moving. At that point reaching an agent is the only way to find out what's actually stuck.

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