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Can I get EDD benefits if fired without any write-ups? HR says 'performance issues'

I was suddenly terminated yesterday after 18 months at a tech support company. My manager claimed I had 'ongoing performance issues' but I've NEVER received a single written warning or formal write-up in my employee file. During my exit meeting, HR wouldn't give me specific examples of these supposed issues when I asked. I've always met my ticket quotas and even received a positive performance review 4 months ago! I'm wondering if this qualifies as wrongful termination and if I can apply for unemployment while I figure out next steps. Has anyone been approved for EDD benefits after being fired without documentation? I'm really stressed about making rent next month.

Ana Rusula

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You absolutely CAN apply for unemployment! Being fired without documentation of progressive discipline actually works in your favor with EDD. I was in almost the exact same situation last year - fired for "not meeting expectations" but had zero write-ups. EDD approved my claim because my employer couldn't provide evidence they had given me warnings or a chance to improve. Apply immediately through UI Online and make sure to accurately describe the situation exactly as you did here.

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Thank you!! That's such a relief to hear. Did your employer try to contest your claim? I'm worried mine will make up reasons after the fact.

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Fidel Carson

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ur definitely eligible!! companies do this all the time, they fire ppl without documentation then try to deny benefits. EDD usually sides with employees unless theres like actual misconduct (stealing, violence, etc). just be honest about what happened

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Thanks for the reassurance! That makes me feel better about applying.

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Wrongful termination and UI eligibility are two separate issues. For unemployment, the key factor is whether you were fired for misconduct. Being a poor performer is NOT misconduct. Misconduct requires willful disregard for your employer's interests. When you apply, EDD will contact your employer for their side. Without documented warnings, they'll have a harder time proving misconduct. Be truthful in your application about being terminated for alleged performance issues without prior written warnings. If your claim is initially denied, APPEAL IMMEDIATELY. Many employers don't respond to appeals, resulting in automatic approval for the claimant.

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This is super helpful, thank you! I definitely wasn't engaged in misconduct - I was just blindsided with vague 'performance' complaints. I'll be careful to document everything accurately on my application.

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Xan Dae

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Did they give you any severance? Sometimes companies will offer a small package if they know they're on shaky ground with the termination. Also did they make you sign anything during the exit?

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No severance at all - just my final check for hours worked. They did push a "separation agreement" form but I didn't sign it because I wanted time to review it first. It had some language about me agreeing the termination was justified. Glad I held off!

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Xan Dae

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Smart move not signing!! That form was definitely designed to hurt your UI claim. They can't make you sign anything like that.

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I went through EXACTLY THIS last year!!! My boss fired me saying I wasn't "culture fit" but never gave me ANY warnings. I applied for EDD right away but kept getting the "PENDING" status for weeks and couldn't reach anyone. I finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to actually get through to a real EDD agent. They have this video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10?si=TSwYbu_GOwYzt9km The agent told me my employer was contesting but since they had no documentation of any warnings, EDD sided with me! My payments started the next day after being stuck for almost a month. Definitely worth it when your benefits are on the line.

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Fidel Carson

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does that service actually work?? i tried calling edd like 30 times last month and never got thru

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Thais Soares

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EDD specialist here. Let me clarify a few things: 1) You should absolutely apply for unemployment benefits. Don't delay. 2) Under California law, being fired for simple performance issues typically qualifies you for benefits. The burden is on the employer to prove misconduct. 3) Misconduct in UI law has a specific definition: a deliberate disregard for the employer's interests. Poor performance alone doesn't meet this standard. 4) The lack of written warnings works strongly in your favor. Document the exact timeline of events including your recent positive review. 5) If your employer contests your claim (many do automatically), you'll receive a Notice of Determination and interview appointment. Attend this and calmly present your facts. 6) If initially denied, appeal within 30 days. Many employers don't show up to appeal hearings, resulting in the claimant winning by default. Regarding wrongful termination - that's a separate legal issue that may require consulting with an employment attorney.

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Thank you for such a detailed explanation! I'll definitely apply right away and keep detailed notes about everything. This really helps me understand the process better.

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Nalani Liu

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is this still true if ur in ur probationary period? i got fired after 5 months with no warnings too

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Axel Bourke

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my cousin got fired from retail last year for supposedly being late all the time but they never wrote him up either and he got unemployment no problem so yeah definitely apply

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Just wanted to add - make sure you have your final paystub and any performance reviews you mentioned when you file! Having that positive review from 4 months ago will be super helpful if they try to contest. Also take screenshots of any positive feedback emails or messages from coworkers/customers if you have them.

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Great idea about the screenshots! I have several email threads where my manager praised my work. I'll gather those now before I lose access to my work email.

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Nalani Liu

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I don't think it's technically "wrongful termination" because California is an at-will state so they can fire you anytime for almost any reason (except discrimination). But you can DEFINITELY get unemployment! That's exactly what it's for - when you lose your job through no fault of your own.

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Correct. "Wrongful termination" has a specific legal definition involving protected characteristics or activities. However, being fired without cause in an at-will state still typically qualifies someone for unemployment benefits, which is what matters most in the immediate term.

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Yara Khalil

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I'm new to this whole unemployment process, but reading through everyone's responses is really reassuring! I'm in a similar boat - got let go from my marketing job last week for "performance issues" but never had any formal warnings or documentation. My manager just said I wasn't meeting unspecified expectations. It's so frustrating when they can't even tell you what you supposedly did wrong! I'm definitely going to apply for EDD benefits based on all the advice here. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - it really helps to know I'm not alone in this situation.

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Welcome to the community! I'm sorry you're going through this too, but you're absolutely right that you're not alone. The "unspecified expectations" thing sounds so familiar - it's like they use vague language on purpose to avoid having to provide real evidence. Based on everything I've learned from this thread, it sounds like you have a really strong case for unemployment benefits since there's no documentation. The lack of formal warnings really works in our favor with EDD. Definitely apply as soon as possible and don't let them intimidate you into thinking you don't deserve benefits. You've got this!

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Grace Patel

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I'm going through something very similar right now! Got terminated last month from my customer service role for alleged "attitude problems" but never received any coaching, warnings, or documentation about my attitude. In fact, I consistently had high customer satisfaction scores and was even employee of the month twice last year. When I asked HR for specifics during my exit interview, they just kept saying it was "feedback from management" but couldn't provide examples. I applied for EDD benefits immediately and just got approved last week! My employer did try to contest it, but EDD sided with me because they couldn't provide any evidence of misconduct or progressive discipline. The key is being completely honest on your application about the circumstances - don't try to sugarcoat anything, just state the facts exactly as they happened. One thing that helped me was keeping a detailed timeline of events, including that positive performance review you mentioned. That kind of documentation really strengthens your case. Hang in there - this process is stressful but you have rights as an employee and EDD is generally fair when employers can't back up their claims with actual evidence.

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Congratulations on getting approved! Your story gives me so much hope. The "attitude problems" excuse sounds just as vague and unprovable as the "performance issues" they cited for me. It's encouraging to hear that EDD saw through their lack of documentation. I'm definitely going to follow your advice about creating a detailed timeline - I've already started gathering my positive performance review and any emails praising my work. It's frustrating that we have to go through this stress when we were just doing our jobs, but at least the system seems to work when employers can't provide real evidence. Thanks for sharing your experience and the encouragement!

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now! Just got fired two weeks ago from my accounting firm for "not being a good fit" but like you, I never received any written warnings or performance improvement plans. My supervisor even gave me additional responsibilities just last month, which seems contradictory if my performance was truly an issue. I filed for EDD benefits right away after reading posts like this, and I'm currently in the "pending" phase waiting to hear back. The whole experience has been so demoralizing - especially when they can't give you concrete examples of what you supposedly did wrong. It feels like they're just using vague language to cover themselves. Reading all these success stories in the comments gives me hope that EDD will see through their lack of documentation. It's reassuring to know that the burden of proof is on the employer to show actual misconduct, not just vague "performance issues." Stay strong and definitely don't let them make you feel like you don't deserve benefits - companies shouldn't be able to fire people without cause and then deny them the safety net they've paid into through their taxes!

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Rudy Cenizo

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I'm so sorry you're going through this too! The "not being a good fit" excuse is such BS - especially when they were giving you more responsibilities just last month. That actually works in your favor because it shows they trusted your abilities recently. I'm in the exact same waiting phase right now and it's nerve-wracking, but everyone here has given me so much confidence that EDD will see through these weak excuses. The fact that none of us got any written warnings or documentation really seems to be the key factor. Keep your head up - we've all paid into this system and deserve these benefits when we lose our jobs through no real fault of our own!

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I'm really sorry this happened to you! I went through almost the exact same thing 6 months ago - fired from my job at a logistics company for "performance concerns" but never got a single write-up or formal warning. Like you, I had even received positive feedback in recent months. I was terrified about applying for EDD because I thought being "fired" automatically disqualified me, but that's not true at all! I applied within a few days and got approved. My employer tried to contest it, but during the phone interview with EDD, they asked my former boss for documentation of the performance issues and warnings they claimed to have given me. When they couldn't provide anything concrete, EDD ruled in my favor. The whole process took about 3 weeks from application to first payment, but it was such a relief. Don't let them make you feel like you did something wrong - vague "performance issues" without documentation is exactly what unemployment benefits are designed to help with. Apply as soon as possible and be completely honest about what happened. You've got this!

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's incredibly helpful to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation and came out successful. I was also worried that being "fired" would automatically disqualify me, so it's reassuring to know that's not the case. The fact that EDD actually asked your former employer for documentation and they couldn't provide it really shows how important that lack of written warnings is for our cases. Three weeks sounds totally manageable compared to the stress of not having any income. I'm definitely going to apply today after reading all these encouraging stories. It gives me so much confidence knowing that the system actually works when employers try to pull this vague "performance issues" nonsense without any real evidence!

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I'm going through something eerily similar right now! Got let go from my data entry position three weeks ago for "productivity concerns" but I never received any formal coaching, write-ups, or performance improvement plans. What's really frustrating is that I had just completed a major project ahead of deadline and received praise from my team lead just two weeks before they fired me. I was hesitant to apply for EDD at first because I thought being terminated would automatically disqualify me, but after reading all these responses I feel much more confident. It sounds like the key is that employers need to prove actual misconduct, not just vague performance complaints, and they can't do that without documentation. I'm applying tonight and keeping detailed notes of everything that happened, including screenshots of those positive feedback emails I still have access to. It's so comforting to see that EDD consistently sides with employees when employers can't back up their claims with real evidence. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences - it really helps to know this isn't just happening to me and that there's light at the end of the tunnel!

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I'm so glad you found this thread helpful! Your situation with getting praise just two weeks before termination actually strengthens your case even more - that kind of timeline really contradicts their "productivity concerns" claim. It's exactly the type of inconsistency that EDD looks for when evaluating these cases. You're absolutely right that the key is employers needing to prove actual misconduct rather than just making vague accusations. The fact that you have those positive feedback emails is perfect - definitely include those when you apply. I'm new to dealing with unemployment myself, but reading everyone's experiences here has been so reassuring. It's clear that when companies fire people without proper documentation or progressive discipline, EDD consistently protects workers' rights. Good luck with your application - sounds like you have a really strong case!

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I'm new to this community but unfortunately facing a very similar situation! I was terminated from my software testing job yesterday for "not meeting quality standards" but like so many others here, I never received any formal warnings, write-ups, or performance improvement plans. What makes it even more confusing is that I passed my 90-day review with flying colors and my QA metrics were consistently within acceptable ranges according to the monthly reports. Reading through everyone's experiences here is both heartbreaking (that this happens so frequently) and incredibly encouraging (that EDD tends to side with employees when employers can't provide documentation). It's clear that companies often use these vague termination reasons as a way to avoid paying unemployment, but thankfully the system seems designed to catch these tactics. I'm definitely going to apply for EDD benefits first thing tomorrow morning and document everything exactly as it happened. Thank you all for sharing your stories and advice - it's given me the confidence I needed to move forward with the application process. It's reassuring to know there's a community here that understands what we're going through!

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Welcome to the community, and I'm sorry you're dealing with this stressful situation! Your case sounds incredibly strong - passing your 90-day review and having metrics within acceptable ranges completely contradicts their "quality standards" claim. That kind of documented positive performance history is exactly what EDD looks for when evaluating these cases. It's frustrating how common these vague termination excuses are, but you're absolutely right that the system is designed to protect employees when employers can't back up their claims with real evidence. Make sure to mention that positive 90-day review and your QA metrics when you apply - that documentation will be invaluable if they try to contest your claim. You've definitely come to the right place for support and advice!

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Aisha Khan

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I'm so sorry you're going through this - it's incredibly stressful to be blindsided like that, especially when you've been doing good work! I've been lurking in this community for a while and finally decided to create an account because your situation hits so close to home. I was terminated from my administrative assistant position about 8 months ago for alleged "communication issues" but never received any coaching, warnings, or documentation about my communication style. In fact, I had received compliments from multiple departments about how helpful and professional I was in my interactions. I applied for EDD benefits immediately and was approved without any issues. My employer didn't even try to contest it, which makes me think they knew they were on shaky ground with their reasoning. The whole experience taught me that these vague termination reasons are often just employers trying to avoid paying unemployment, but EDD sees right through it when there's no real documentation. Based on everything I've learned and all the success stories in this thread, you should definitely apply right away. Having that positive performance review from 4 months ago is going to be huge for your case. Don't let them make you doubt yourself - you know you were doing your job well, and EDD will recognize that too when they see the lack of proper documentation from your employer.

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Nia Wilson

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Welcome to the community and thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's really encouraging to hear from someone who went through this 8 months ago and came out successful. The "communication issues" excuse sounds just as vague and unprovable as all these "performance" claims we're seeing. It's really telling that your employer didn't even try to contest your claim - that definitely suggests they knew they had no real grounds for the termination. Your point about EDD seeing through these tactics when there's no documentation is spot on, and it's exactly what I needed to hear right now. I'm definitely going to apply first thing tomorrow and make sure to highlight that positive review. Thank you for taking the time to create an account and share your story - it means a lot to have this kind of support from people who truly understand what we're going through!

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