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Elijah Knight

Can I use baby bonding PFL after being terminated while on disability?

Hi everyone, I'm in a really stressful situation and need advice ASAP. I've been on pregnancy disability leave (SDI) for complications after delivery, but now I'm approaching the end of what my employer approved for leave time (12 weeks). They're telling me I'll be terminated in 2 weeks if I don't return, but my doctor says I'm still not medically cleared to go back. My question is: if they do terminate me when my disability claim ends, can I still apply for and receive the 8 weeks of baby bonding PFL? Or do I need to be employed at the time I file for baby bonding? I'm panicking about both my health and finances since I have a 3-month old to care for. Has anyone dealt with something like this before?

Yes, you CAN file for baby bonding PFL even if your employment terminates! The important thing is that you were employed and paid into SDI during your base period (5-18 months before your claim). Your right to PFL benefits isn't dependent on current employment status when you file. You have up to 12 months from your child's birth to use your baby bonding time.

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Thank you so much! That's a huge relief. Do I need to wait until my disability claim completely ends before applying for baby bonding? Or should I start the application now?

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my sister got fired while on maternity leave last year and still got her full baby bonding pay from edd. its not thru ur job its thru the state so dont worry about it

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This is TOTALLY WRONG information!! PFL baby bonding is NOT the same as "maternity leave" which isn't even a real California benefit!! The EDD system is complicated and people keep giving terrible advice. Your employer might have additional protections under CFRA/FMLA that you're losing but that's DIFFERENT from PFL benefits!!

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I'm a benefits counselor, and I can confirm you're eligible for PFL baby bonding even if terminated. However, there are some important technical details to understand: 1. You should file for baby bonding PFL immediately after your disability claim ends (the system should prompt you) 2. Make sure there's no gap between your disability end date and PFL start date 3. Your benefit amount will be the same as your disability payments 4. You WILL lose job protection if terminated (normally CFRA/FMLA would protect your job during baby bonding) 5. Document everything from your employer in writing If you're having trouble reaching EDD to discuss your transition from disability to PFL, I recommend using Claimyr (claimyr.com). They have a service that connects you directly to an EDD agent without the usual hours of waiting. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/DOLxZQb92wM?si=6N1iCQ3a8Cdb2Ay5. This transition period is exactly when you need clear answers from an actual EDD representative.

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Thank you for this detailed information! I've been trying to call EDD for 3 days with no luck. I'll definitely check out that service - at this point I'd do anything to speak to a real person about my situation. I'm worried about correctly timing the transition from disability to PFL since it sounds like any gap could cause problems.

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I went thru something similar in January. My employer actually terminated me while I was still on disability for pregnancy complications. I transitioned to baby bonding without any problems. Just make sure your doctor submits the final disability certification correctly showing your recovery date, and then immediately submit your DE2508 form for PFL baby bonding. Oh and apply for unemployment after your baby bonding ends! Since you didn't quit voluntarily you'll likely qualify.

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wait I'm confused... if ur on baby bonding aren't u still technically employed? how can u get unemployment and baby bonding at the same time?? this whole system is so complicated!!

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No no - you apply for unemployment AFTER baby bonding ends, not during! You can't receive both at the same time. Baby bonding first, then unemployment if you still don't have a job after your bonding time is over.

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This is exactly why California's system is SO BROKEN!!!! They make it impossible to understand what you're entitled to and when. I spent HOURS on hold with EDD when transitioning from disability to baby bonding last year. Then they "lost" my DE2508 form TWICE!!! Had to resubmit everything and went 6 weeks with NO INCOME while taking care of a newborn. The whole system is designed to make you give up!!!

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omg same thing happend to me!! they kept saying they never got my forms but i sent them like 3 times!!

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To answer your follow-up question about timing: Ideally, you should start the baby bonding application process about 1-2 weeks before your disability claim ends. The online system allows you to specify the start date for baby bonding, which should be the day after your disability ends. This ensures a smooth transition without gaps. One other thing to consider: while you can get PFL benefits after termination, you might want to consult with an employment attorney about the termination itself. Depending on your situation, there could be potential FMLA/CFRA violations if your employer is of sufficient size (20+ employees for CFRA or 50+ for FMLA).

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I just checked and my company has 18 employees, so I guess I don't qualify for CFRA protection. I'll definitely start the application process right away. My disability is scheduled to end on June 12th, so I'll aim to submit my baby bonding application by June 1st. Thanks again for the clear timeline advice!

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My friend went through this whole mess in 2024 and what nobody tells you is that sometimes EDD automatically starts the transition process from disability to PFL and sometimes they don't! It's totally random! When her disability claim was ending, she got a message in her EDD account asking if she wanted to transition to baby bonding. But my sister never got that message and had to call like 40 times to get it fixed. Also, don't forget that baby bonding is only 60% of your salary not the full amount! I got caught by surprise with that part.

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Actually, both disability and PFL provide the same benefit amount (approximately 60-70% of your wages up to the maximum). If you're transitioning directly from disability to PFL, you'll continue receiving the same weekly benefit amount. The EDD should automatically offer the transition in the online portal, but system glitches happen, which is why it's always good to be proactive about starting the application process.

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I'm actually going through this EXACT situation right now!! My employer terminated me after 16 weeks of disability leave (I had severe preeclampsia and then postpartum complications). I just started my baby bonding PFL last week without any issues. BUT make sure you download and save ALL your disability payment history before your account status changes!! For some reason, once you switch to PFL, sometimes the disability payment history disappears from your account and you might need that for tax purposes later!!

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That's a really good tip about saving the payment history! I wouldn't have thought of that. I'm sorry you went through complications too, but it's reassuring to hear you were able to transition to PFL successfully after termination. I'll make sure to download everything.

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I'm a former EDD caseworker and want to add a few crucial points that haven't been mentioned yet: 1. TIMING IS CRITICAL - You must file your PFL claim within 49 days of when you want benefits to start. Don't wait until the last minute! 2. MEDICAL CERTIFICATION - Make sure your doctor clearly states your disability END date on the final medical form. Any ambiguity can delay your PFL approval. 3. EMPLOYER SEPARATION - If you're terminated while on disability, request a written explanation from HR about the reason. This documentation could be important for potential wrongful termination claims AND for your unemployment application later. 4. CONTINUOUS CLAIM STRATEGY - File your PFL application while still on disability (about 2 weeks before disability ends) and specify your desired start date. This prevents gaps in coverage. 5. BACKUP PLAN - If there are any delays or denials with PFL, you may be eligible for unemployment benefits since the termination wasn't voluntary on your part. The good news is that PFL eligibility is based on your wage history during the base period, not your current employment status. You've earned these benefits through your payroll deductions, so don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

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This is such valuable information from someone with inside knowledge of the system! I'm definitely going to follow the continuous claim strategy and file my PFL application this week (about 10 days before my disability ends). One quick question - when you mention filing "while still on disability," do I need to wait for any specific status change in my online account, or can I just submit the DE2508 form directly? I want to make sure I don't accidentally create any conflicts between my active disability claim and the pending PFL application. Also, thank you for the point about getting written documentation from HR. I hadn't thought about how that could be important for both potential legal issues AND unemployment eligibility later. I'll request that in writing today.

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You can submit the DE2508 form directly without waiting for any specific status change in your account! The form allows you to specify your desired start date for PFL benefits, so there's no conflict with your active disability claim. The system is designed to handle this transition smoothly when you provide clear start/end dates. Just make sure your PFL start date is the day after your disability end date. Also, definitely get that HR documentation in writing ASAP - even if they resist, send them an email requesting it so you have a paper trail of asking. This creates a record that could be valuable later regardless of whether they actually provide the written explanation.

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I'm so sorry you're dealing with this stress while recovering and caring for a newborn! I went through a similar situation two years ago and can share what I learned. You absolutely CAN receive baby bonding PFL even after termination - your eligibility is based on your wage history during the base period (when you were working and paying into SDI), not your current employment status. Here's what worked for me: I submitted my DE2508 form about 10 days before my disability ended, specifying that I wanted PFL to start the day after my disability benefits stopped. This created a seamless transition with no gap in payments. Make sure your doctor is very clear about your disability end date on the final medical certification - any vagueness can cause delays. One thing I wish someone had told me: even though you'll lose job protection when terminated, you may still have options. Document everything from your employer in writing, especially their reasons for termination. This could be important if you need to file for unemployment after your baby bonding period ends. The whole process felt overwhelming at the time, but the PFL benefits did come through as expected. You've earned these benefits through your payroll contributions, so don't let the termination make you think you're not entitled to them. Hang in there!

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience and the detailed advice! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who successfully went through the same situation. I'm feeling much more confident about the process now. I'm planning to submit my DE2508 form this week, about 10 days before my disability ends on June 12th, and I'll make sure to specify June 13th as my PFL start date. I've already started documenting everything from my employer in writing like you and others suggested. It's such a relief to know that the benefits will continue even after termination - I was so worried about how I'd support my family during this time. This community has been incredibly helpful during such a stressful period!

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I'm going through something very similar right now! I was terminated while on disability for postpartum complications, and I was terrified about losing my benefits. But I can confirm that you absolutely CAN get baby bonding PFL after termination - I just got approved last week! The key things that helped me were: 1) Filing my PFL application about 2 weeks before my disability ended, 2) Making sure there was no gap between my disability end date and PFL start date, and 3) having my doctor be very specific about my recovery timeline on the final medical forms. Don't let your employer make you feel like you're not entitled to these benefits - you paid into the system through your paychecks, so this is YOUR money! I know it's incredibly stressful dealing with this while caring for a newborn, but the benefits will come through. Also definitely save all your payment history and get everything from your employer in writing like others mentioned. You've got this!

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This is so helpful to hear from someone who just went through this! I've been really anxious about the whole process, but seeing that you got approved last week gives me a lot of hope. I'm planning to follow the same timeline you mentioned - filing about 2 weeks before my disability ends. One quick question: when you say your doctor needed to be "very specific about recovery timeline," did they need to put an exact end date on the final form, or was there other specific language that helped? I want to make sure I communicate clearly with my doctor about what EDD needs to see. Thank you for the encouragement - it really means a lot right now!

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I'm a new mom who just went through this exact situation last month, and I wanted to share what I learned! Yes, you can absolutely get baby bonding PFL after being terminated - your eligibility is based on your work history during the base period, not your current employment status when you file. Here's what worked for me: I submitted my DE2508 form online about 2 weeks before my disability was set to end. The key is making sure your doctor puts a SPECIFIC end date on your final disability certification - not something vague like "will reassess" or "approximately." EDD needs that clear end date to process the transition smoothly. I was also worried about the timing, but you can actually specify your desired PFL start date right on the application. I made mine the day after my disability ended, and there was no gap in payments. The whole transition took about 10-14 days to process once I submitted everything. One thing that really helped me was keeping detailed records of everything - all my EDD correspondence, medical forms, and especially anything from my employer about the termination. Even though losing job protection is scary, remember that you've EARNED these benefits through your payroll deductions. Don't let anyone make you feel like you don't deserve them! Hang in there - I know how overwhelming this feels when you're dealing with health issues and a newborn, but the system does work once you understand the process. You've got this mama! 💪

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Thank you so much for sharing your recent experience! It's incredibly reassuring to hear from someone who just went through this successfully. I really appreciate the specific detail about making sure the doctor puts an exact end date rather than something vague - that's exactly the kind of practical tip I needed. I'll make sure to communicate that clearly to my doctor when we do the final certification. The fact that you had no gap in payments is such a relief to hear! I've been so worried about how we'd manage financially if there were delays. Your point about keeping detailed records is really smart too - I've already started doing that but I'll make sure to be even more thorough. Thank you for the encouragement and for taking the time to share what worked for you. It means so much to have support from other moms who've been through this! 💙

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I'm so sorry you're going through this stressful situation! As someone who works in HR and has helped employees navigate similar circumstances, I can confirm what others have said - you absolutely CAN receive baby bonding PFL even after termination. Your eligibility is based on your earnings during the base period (5-18 months before your claim), not your current employment status. A few additional tips from my experience helping people through this process: 1. When you file your DE2508 form, make sure to upload or mail ALL required documents at once - missing paperwork is the #1 cause of delays 2. Keep copies of everything you submit to EDD (seriously, everything!) 3. If your employer tries to tell you that termination affects your PFL eligibility, that's incorrect - don't let them intimidate you 4. Consider setting up direct deposit if you haven't already to avoid any mail delays with benefit checks Also, while you're dealing with the immediate PFL situation, start thinking ahead about your next steps. After your 8 weeks of baby bonding ends, you may be eligible for unemployment benefits since your termination wasn't voluntary. Having a plan can help reduce some of the financial stress you're feeling right now. You've got this! Take care of yourself and that little one. 💕

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This is such comprehensive advice, thank you! I really appreciate the HR perspective - it's helpful to know that employers sometimes give incorrect information about PFL eligibility after termination. I'll definitely make sure to submit all my documents at once when I file the DE2508 form, and I've already been keeping copies of everything (this thread taught me how important that is!). The tip about setting up direct deposit is great too - I hadn't thought about potential mail delays with checks. I'm also glad you mentioned planning ahead for unemployment benefits after baby bonding ends. Even though I'm focused on the immediate PFL situation, knowing I have that option later gives me some peace of mind about our long-term financial situation. Thank you for taking the time to share your professional insights and for the encouragement! 💕

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I'm a new member here but I've been following this conversation because I'm in a somewhat similar situation. I wanted to add something that might be helpful - if you're having trouble getting through to EDD by phone (which seems to be a common issue based on the comments), you can also try their "Contact EDD" online form through your UI Online account. It's not as immediate as talking to someone, but I got a response within 3-4 business days when I had questions about my claim transition. Also, I noticed several people mentioned the importance of having no gap between disability and PFL - this is SO important! My cousin had a 5-day gap because of a paperwork delay and it took weeks to get it resolved. She ended up having to call multiple times and escalate to a supervisor to get the missing days paid retroactively. One more thing - make sure you're checking your EDD account notifications regularly during the transition period. Sometimes they'll send important updates or requests for additional information through the online portal that you might miss if you're only checking for payment status. Wishing you all the best with your situation! It sounds like you're getting great advice from this community. 🙏

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Thank you for mentioning the online "Contact EDD" form! I've been dreading the thought of spending hours on hold trying to reach someone by phone, so having an alternative that gets responses in 3-4 days is really helpful to know about. I'll definitely use that if I run into any issues during my transition process. Your point about the 5-day gap is exactly what I've been worried about - it sounds like even small delays can turn into major headaches. I'm planning to be extra careful about timing and will make sure to check my EDD account daily during the transition period like you suggested. It's so valuable to hear practical tips like these from people who have actually navigated the system. Thanks for taking the time to share your insights as a new member! 🙏

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I'm so sorry you're dealing with this incredibly stressful situation while recovering and caring for a newborn! Based on everything I've read here, it sounds like you definitely CAN get baby bonding PFL after termination - your eligibility is tied to your work history, not your current job status. I wanted to add one thing I learned when my sister went through something similar last year: make sure to save/screenshot your current EDD account dashboard showing your disability claim details before you start the PFL transition. Sometimes the system glitches during transitions and having that documentation helped her resolve a payment delay issue. Also, when you talk to your doctor about the final disability certification, ask them to write the exact end date clearly at the top of the form too, not just buried in the medical notes. My sister's doctor did this and it seemed to help EDD process everything faster. You're being so proactive by asking these questions and planning ahead - that's going to serve you well through this process. Sending you lots of support during this challenging time! 💙

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Thank you so much for this thoughtful advice! The tip about screenshotting my current EDD dashboard is brilliant - I wouldn't have thought to do that but it makes total sense given how many people have mentioned system glitches during transitions. I'll definitely do that today before I submit my PFL application. Your suggestion about asking my doctor to write the exact end date clearly at the top of the form is also really helpful. I have my final appointment with her this Friday, so I'll make sure to specifically request that she puts the end date prominently on the certification form, not just in the notes section. It sounds like these little details can make a big difference in processing time. I really appreciate the encouragement too - this whole situation has felt so overwhelming, but this community has been incredible in providing both practical advice and emotional support. It's amazing how much better I feel knowing that others have successfully navigated similar challenges. Thank you for taking the time to share what worked for your sister! 💙

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I'm a new parent advocate who helps families navigate these exact situations, and I want to emphasize what others have correctly stated - you absolutely CAN receive baby bonding PFL after termination! Your benefits are earned through your payroll contributions during the base period, so termination doesn't affect your eligibility. Here are some additional protective steps I recommend: 1. **Document the termination reason** - Request written confirmation from your employer about why you're being terminated. If it's due to exceeding leave time while still medically unable to return, this could potentially be problematic for them under certain circumstances. 2. **Medical documentation timing** - Schedule your final medical appointment strategically so your doctor can provide the most accurate end date for your disability. Don't let your employer pressure you to return before you're medically cleared. 3. **Know your rights** - Even with a smaller employer (under 20 employees), California has additional protections. Consider a brief consultation with an employment attorney, especially since you're being terminated while still medically unable to work. 4. **Plan your sequence** - Disability → Baby bonding PFL (8 weeks) → Unemployment benefits (if still jobless) → Job search. This gives you maximum financial runway during recovery. The system works when you understand it, but don't hesitate to advocate for yourself throughout this process. You've earned these benefits and deserve to use them without harassment from your employer!

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This is such comprehensive advice from an advocate perspective - thank you! I hadn't fully considered the potential legal implications of being terminated while still medically unable to return to work. Even though my employer has fewer than 20 employees, your point about California having additional protections is really important to explore. I think a brief consultation with an employment attorney might be worth it, especially since I'm being terminated specifically because I can't return while still recovering from pregnancy complications. Your suggested sequence (disability → PFL → unemployment → job search) is exactly the kind of strategic planning I needed to see laid out clearly. It's reassuring to know there are advocates like you helping families navigate these complex situations. I feel much more empowered now to stand up for my rights and not let my employer make me feel like I'm asking for something unreasonable. Thank you for emphasizing that I've earned these benefits - sometimes you need to hear that when you're feeling vulnerable!

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Jacob Lee

I'm a new mom who recently transitioned from disability to baby bonding PFL after my employer terminated me during my recovery period. I can definitely confirm that you CAN receive PFL benefits even after termination - your eligibility is based on your wage history during the base period, not your current employment status when you file. Here's what made my transition smooth: I filed my DE2508 form online about 10 days before my disability ended, making sure to specify that my PFL should start the day after my disability benefits stopped. The key was having my doctor put a very clear, specific end date on the final medical certification - no vague language like "approximately" or "pending reassessment." One thing I wish I'd known earlier: save screenshots of your entire EDD account before starting the transition! During my switch from disability to PFL, some of my payment history temporarily disappeared from the portal, and having those screenshots helped when I needed to reference past payments. Also, don't let your employer intimidate you about your benefits. When mine tried to suggest that termination would affect my PFL eligibility, I knew from researching that they were wrong. You've paid into this system through your paychecks - these benefits are YOURS. The financial stress is real, but the system does work once you understand the process. You're asking all the right questions and planning ahead, which will serve you well. Take care of yourself and that little one! 💕

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I'm so sorry you're going through this stressful situation! As a new member here, I've been reading through all the responses and I'm amazed by how supportive and knowledgeable this community is. I wanted to add my perspective as someone who just went through a similar transition last month. Yes, you absolutely CAN receive baby bonding PFL after termination! Your eligibility is based on your earnings during the base period (when you were working and paying into SDI), not whether you're currently employed when you file. Here's what worked perfectly for me: I submitted my DE2508 form about 2 weeks before my disability was set to end, and I made sure to specify the exact start date for my PFL (the day after my disability ended). The transition was seamless with no gap in payments. Two things that really helped: 1) I had my doctor write the disability end date very clearly at the top of the final medical form, not just buried in the notes, and 2) I took screenshots of my entire EDD account dashboard before starting the transition process, which came in handy when I needed to reference information later. Don't let your employer make you feel like you're not entitled to these benefits - you've earned them through your payroll deductions! I know how overwhelming this feels when you're dealing with recovery and caring for a newborn, but you're asking all the right questions and you've got this! The community here has given you excellent advice. Wishing you and your little one all the best! 💙

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