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Madeline Blaze

Does using credit cards for bills or getting cash advances count as income for CalFresh reporting?

So my CalFresh renewal is coming up next month and I'm stressing about something I don't know how to report. My hours got cut back at work and I've been putting some of my utilities and groceries on my credit card to get by. Last week I even had to take a $200 cash advance to help cover part of my rent. I'm worried about how to report this on my renewal. Does CalFresh consider credit card spending or cash advances as income? I don't want to get accused of fraud, but it's not really income since I'll have to pay it all back with interest. Anyone know how this works? I'm afraid to ask my worker because I don't want it to seem like I'm hiding money.

Max Knight

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Credit card charges and cash advances are NOT considered income for CalFresh. You're right that it's not income - it's debt that you have to pay back. You only need to report actual income sources like wages, unemployment, disability, child support, etc. The money you spend using credit cards doesn't need to be reported because you're not gaining any income - you're actually creating debt. What you DO need to report is your reduced work hours since that affects your actual income. Make sure you provide documentation of your current hours/pay so your benefits can be adjusted accordingly. You might actually qualify for more CalFresh benefits with your reduced income.

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Thank you so much for explaining! That's a huge relief. I'll definitely report my reduced hours and bring my most recent pay stubs to the renewal appointment. I was losing sleep over this!

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Emma Swift

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credt cards arent income its just a loan u have 2 pay back eventually. they only care about REAL income like paychecks or when someone gives u $ u dont have to repay

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Exactly right! Credit is just like a loan, not income. I've been on CalFresh for 3 years and they've never asked about credit cards during any of my recertifications.

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Jayden Hill

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I had this same worry last year when I was using my credit card for everything after losing my job. My worker specifically told me that only actual income needs to be reported. Credit cards, loans, advances, etc. are all DEBT, not income. But be careful about the cash advances! Those usually have very high interest rates and fees. Have you checked if you qualify for CalWORKs (Cash Aid) since your hours were reduced? That might help you avoid taking on more credit card debt.

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Thank you for the advice about cash advances - you're right, the fees are ridiculous but I was desperate. I didn't think about applying for CalWORKs, I always assumed I wouldn't qualify since I'm still working part-time. Maybe I should look into it now that my hours are down to just 22 per week.

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LordCommander

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Others have already correctly answered your main question (credit card charges and cash advances are NOT income for CalFresh purposes), but I wanted to add that if you're struggling this much, you should definitely apply for CalWORKs as well. With your reduced hours, you might qualify for cash assistance. Also, if you're having trouble connecting with your CalFresh eligibility worker to discuss your situation, I recently discovered a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helps you get through to a live person at social services without waiting on hold for hours. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/jzISHxCPLwE that shows how it works. It helped me reach my worker when I needed to report my job loss.

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Thanks for the recommendation! I've spent hours on hold before just to get disconnected. I'll check out that service for my renewal appointment. And I'm definitely going to look into CalWORKs - didn't realize I might qualify with part-time work.

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Lucy Lam

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BE CAREFUL THOUGH!!! If you deposit that cash advance money into your bank account and then your worker sees a $200 deposit, they might think it's unreported income! This happened to my sister and she had to provide statements showing it was just a cash advance. So keep your bank statements that show where the money came from just in case they ask!!!

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Max Knight

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This is a good point about documentation. While credit advances aren't income, unexplained deposits in your bank account can trigger questions. If asked, you just need to clarify the source with documentation. But don't worry too much - they're mainly concerned with actual income sources, not every transaction in your account.

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Aidan Hudson

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Everyone saying credit cards aren't income is right, but I wanted to check - are you putting SNAP benefits on your credit card somehow? Because that could potentially be an issue. You should only be using your EBT card to purchase eligible food items directly. Just making sure I understand what you're asking correctly.

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Oh no, nothing like that! I'm just using my regular credit card to buy some groceries when my CalFresh benefits run out before the end of the month. And then for utilities and part of my rent when my paycheck wasn't enough. I would never do anything weird with my EBT card.

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Aidan Hudson

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Gotcha, that makes sense! Just wanted to make sure since your question could have been interpreted different ways. In that case, yes - using your credit card for normal purchases is just creating debt, not income. No need to report that.

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Hey, a bit off topic but since you mentioned hours being cut - make sure you also check if you qualify for partial unemployment! Many people don't realize you can get some unemployment benefits when your hours are reduced, not just when you lose your job completely. This could help you avoid using credit cards altogether.

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Jayden Hill

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This is really good advice! I did this when my hours were cut from 40 to 25 last year. Got partial unemployment and it made a huge difference. The EDD website has information on how to apply for reduced hours.

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Zoe Wang

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i kno evry1 says credit cards arent income but my cousin got in trouble for not reporting a cash advance but that was for caLworks not calfresh so maybe its diffrent?? the rules r so confusing sometimes

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Max Knight

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The rules are different for CalWORKs and CalFresh. For CalWORKs (cash aid), they look at your resources and assets more strictly. For CalFresh, credit card advances are definitely not countable income. Your cousin's situation was probably related to the resource limits for CalWORKs, which are more restrictive.

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Just wanted to add some reassurance here - I've been through several CalFresh renewals and recertifications, and credit card usage has never been an issue. The key thing to remember is that CalFresh looks at your INCOME, not your spending or debt. Using credit cards is just shifting when you pay for things, not creating new income. Since your hours were reduced, focus on documenting that income change with recent pay stubs. That's what will actually affect your benefits. You might even qualify for higher CalFresh benefits now! And definitely look into the CalWORKs suggestion others mentioned - with 22 hours per week, you very well might qualify for cash assistance to help avoid taking on more debt. Don't stress about the credit card stuff during your renewal appointment. Just be honest about your current work situation and income. You're doing nothing wrong by using credit to get by during a tough time.

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Amina Diop

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This is such helpful advice, thank you! I've been reading through all these responses and I'm feeling so much better about my situation. It's good to know that other people have been through similar experiences with renewals and that using credit cards really isn't something I need to worry about reporting. I'm definitely going to focus on getting my recent pay stubs together to show my reduced hours, and I'm going to look into both CalWORKs and partial unemployment like people suggested. This community has been amazing - I was so scared to even ask this question but everyone has been so supportive and informative!

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I'm new to CalFresh and this thread is so helpful! I was actually wondering about this same thing because I've been using my credit card more lately due to some unexpected medical bills. It's really reassuring to hear from everyone that credit card purchases and cash advances aren't considered income for CalFresh purposes. @Madeline Blaze - I hope your renewal goes smoothly! It sounds like you have a good plan now with documenting your reduced hours and looking into CalWORKs. I'm in a similar situation with reduced hours and didn't know about partial unemployment either, so thanks to everyone who mentioned that option. This community is such a great resource for navigating all these programs!

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Yara Khalil

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Welcome to the community! I'm glad this discussion has been helpful for you too. Medical bills can definitely put you in a tough spot financially, so it's good to know that using credit to manage those expenses won't affect your CalFresh benefits. @Destiny Bryant It s'amazing how many people don t'know about partial unemployment benefits - I only learned about it from this community too! Definitely worth looking into if your hours have been reduced. And you re'absolutely right about this being a great resource. I was so nervous to ask my original question, but everyone here has been incredibly knowledgeable and supportive. Good luck with your situation, and feel free to ask if you have other questions!

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I just wanted to jump in as someone who works in benefits advocacy to confirm what everyone has said - credit card purchases and cash advances are absolutely NOT considered income for CalFresh. You're borrowing money that you'll have to pay back, which makes it debt, not income. What I'd suggest for your renewal is to bring documentation of your reduced hours (recent pay stubs are perfect) and don't even mention the credit card usage unless specifically asked. Focus on your actual income change, which is what matters for your benefits calculation. Also, since multiple people mentioned CalWORKs - definitely apply! With only 22 hours per week, you may very well qualify for cash assistance. The income limits for CalWORKs are higher when you're working because they want to support people who are trying to work their way up. Having some cash assistance could help you avoid those expensive cash advances in the future. You're doing nothing wrong by using credit to survive a tough period. Many people have to do this, and it won't affect your CalFresh eligibility at all.

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Thank you so much for the professional perspective! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who works in benefits advocacy. I feel so much more confident going into my renewal now knowing that I should focus on documenting my reduced hours rather than worrying about the credit card usage. I'm definitely going to apply for CalWORKs - I had no idea that the income limits were actually higher when you're working. That makes so much sense as a policy to encourage people to keep working. And you're right about those cash advance fees being brutal - if I can get some cash assistance, it would help me avoid those expensive options. This whole thread has been such a learning experience. I came in panicked about potentially committing fraud without realizing it, and now I understand so much more about how these programs actually work. Thank you again for taking the time to share your expertise!

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Ryan Andre

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I'm really glad to see this question being asked because it's something that causes a lot of anxiety for people in tough financial situations! As everyone has correctly said, credit card purchases and cash advances are NOT income for CalFresh purposes - they're debt that you have to repay. What I'd add is that when you're struggling financially like this, it's worth reaching out to local food banks and community resources too. Many food banks don't have income requirements and can help stretch your CalFresh benefits further, which might reduce how much you need to put on credit cards for groceries. Also, since you mentioned being worried about talking to your worker - don't be! They've seen every situation imaginable and they're there to help you access the benefits you're entitled to. Being honest about your reduced hours will likely result in higher CalFresh benefits, which could really help your situation. You're being smart by asking these questions and making sure you understand the rules. That shows you care about doing things right, not that you're trying to hide anything!

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Ravi Kapoor

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This is such great additional advice! I hadn't thought about food banks - I always assumed they were just for people who weren't getting any government assistance. It makes total sense that they could help stretch my CalFresh benefits further and reduce how much I'm putting on credit cards for groceries. You're also right about not being afraid to talk to my worker. I think I've been so stressed about money that I started imagining worst-case scenarios. Reading everyone's responses here has helped me realize that my situation is actually pretty common and that the workers have definitely seen this before. Thank you for the encouragement about asking questions - it really does help to understand the rules better. I'm feeling much more prepared for my renewal appointment now!

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I've been following this thread and wanted to share my experience since I went through something very similar last year. I was also worried about credit card usage affecting my CalFresh benefits when I had to start using my card for groceries and bills after my hours were cut. Just like everyone has said, credit cards and cash advances are definitely NOT income for CalFresh - they're debt that you'll have to pay back with interest. I learned this the hard way by stressing about it for weeks before my recertification! What really helped me was keeping simple documentation. I brought my recent pay stubs showing the reduced hours, and that was all my worker needed. They actually increased my CalFresh benefits because of the income drop, which was a huge relief. One thing I'd definitely recommend is calling 211 (just dial 2-1-1) to find local resources in your area. They connected me with a food pantry that helped a lot, and some utility assistance programs I didn't know existed. It really helped reduce how much I had to put on credit cards each month. You're going to be fine at your renewal - focus on the positive, which is that your reduced income likely qualifies you for more help, not less!

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Malik Johnson

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's incredibly helpful to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation. I've been so worried about this for weeks, just like you were, and it's such a relief to know that it worked out fine for you. I'm definitely going to call 211 - I had no idea that was even a thing! Finding local food pantries and utility assistance could really help me reduce how much I'm putting on credit cards each month. And you're right about focusing on the positive - I keep forgetting that my reduced hours might actually qualify me for MORE help rather than getting me in trouble. This whole thread has been amazing. I came here terrified that I was accidentally committing fraud, and now I feel prepared and even optimistic about my renewal. Thank you again for taking the time to share your story - it really means a lot to know I'm not alone in this situation!

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Keisha Taylor

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I'm new here and this thread has been incredibly informative! I've been dealing with a similar situation where I had to start using my credit card more after my work hours were reduced. Reading through everyone's responses has been such a relief - I was also worried that credit card usage might somehow count as income for CalFresh. It's really helpful to see so many people confirm that credit cards and cash advances are debt, not income, and that the focus should be on documenting the actual income change from reduced hours. I had no idea about resources like 211, partial unemployment benefits, or that CalWORKs might be an option for people who are still working part-time. @Madeline Blaze - I hope your renewal goes smoothly! It sounds like you have a solid plan now. This community really is amazing for getting practical advice and support from people who've been through similar experiences. Thank you everyone for sharing your knowledge and experiences - it's making a real difference for those of us navigating these programs!

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NeonNebula

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Welcome to the community! I'm so glad you found this thread helpful too. It's amazing how many of us have been in similar situations with reduced hours and worrying about credit card usage affecting our benefits. Reading through everyone's experiences and advice here has been such an eye-opener for me as well. I had no idea about so many of these resources - the 211 service, partial unemployment, CalWORKs eligibility while working part-time, and even just understanding that debt is completely different from income for reporting purposes. @Madeline Blaze really started something important with this question. I think a lot of us were silently worrying about the same things! It s'so reassuring to see people with actual experience in benefits advocacy and folks who ve'been through recertifications all confirming the same information. Makes me feel much more confident about being honest with my worker about my situation instead of being afraid they ll'think I m'hiding something.

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Keisha Johnson

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This entire discussion has been so valuable to read through! As someone who's been on CalFresh for about 2 years, I can confirm what everyone is saying - credit card purchases and cash advances are absolutely NOT considered income. I went through a period where I was using my credit card for almost everything due to irregular work schedule, and it never came up as an issue during my recertifications. The key thing to remember is that CalFresh cares about money coming IN to you that you don't have to pay back - wages, unemployment, disability, gifts of cash, etc. Credit cards are the opposite - you're borrowing money that creates debt and interest charges. What I love about this thread is seeing how many helpful resources people have shared beyond just answering the main question. The 211 service, partial unemployment, CalWORKs applications, food banks - these are all things that can help reduce the financial stress that leads to credit card dependency in the first place. @Madeline Blaze, you should feel proud for asking this question because clearly a lot of people needed this information! Your renewal is going to go fine - just focus on documenting your reduced income and you'll likely qualify for increased benefits.

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Joy Olmedo

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Thank you so much for adding your perspective as someone who's been on CalFresh for 2 years! It's really reassuring to hear from someone with that experience confirming what everyone else has said about credit cards not being income. Your point about CalFresh caring about money coming IN that you don't have to pay back is such a clear way to think about it - that really helps me understand the distinction. You're absolutely right about all the amazing resources people have shared in this thread. I came here with one specific worry and I'm leaving with knowledge about so many programs and services I didn't even know existed. It really shows how supportive this community is and how much people are willing to help each other navigate these systems. I'm definitely feeling much more confident about my renewal now. Instead of going in worried about credit card usage, I can focus on the important stuff like documenting my reduced hours and potentially accessing more help through CalWORKs or other programs. This whole discussion has been such a game-changer for my understanding of how these benefits actually work!

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I just wanted to add my voice to everyone who's already provided such helpful answers! As someone who's worked with CalFresh recipients for several years, I can absolutely confirm that credit card purchases and cash advances are NOT income for CalFresh purposes. You're borrowing money that has to be repaid with interest - that's debt, not income. What I always tell people in your situation is to focus on what actually matters for your renewal: documenting your current income from work. With your hours reduced to 22 per week, you'll likely qualify for higher CalFresh benefits, which should help reduce your reliance on credit cards for food purchases. I also wanted to emphasize what others have mentioned about CalWORKs - definitely apply! Many people don't realize that CalWORKs income limits are actually more generous when you're working because the program is designed to supplement employment, not replace it. With part-time hours, you very well may qualify for cash assistance that could help you avoid those expensive cash advances. Don't be afraid to have an honest conversation with your worker about your situation. They've seen it all, and reduced work hours due to economic conditions is extremely common right now. You're doing everything right by asking questions and making sure you understand the rules. Your renewal should go smoothly!

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