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Liam Fitzgerald

Can kids receiving Survivor Benefits qualify for CalFresh/P-EBT when mom works full-time?

My sister has two daughters (8 and 16) who get survivor benefits since their dad passed away last year. She works full-time at Target making about $19/hr but still struggles with food costs. The kids get around $1,250 each month from Social Security, and my sister makes roughly $2,900 monthly before taxes. Would they qualify for CalFresh or P-EBT? I've heard survivor benefits might count as income but I'm not sure. We're in LA County if that matters. Just trying to help them keep their fridge stocked because those teenage appetites are no joke and grocery prices are insane right now.

PixelWarrior

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Social Security Survivor Benefits do count as income for CalFresh eligibility, but they should still apply! The current gross income limit for a household of 3 is $3,250/month (as of 2025), and it sounds like they'd be under that even counting everything. The best thing is to just apply through BenefitsCal.com - they'll calculate everything officially. Also, P-EBT is different - that's specifically tied to school meals during emergencies like the pandemic. It's not something you apply for normally. They should focus on regular CalFresh.

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Thank you! I didn't realize the income limits were that high. Do you know if they'll count my sister's income and the kids' survivor benefits together when they calculate eligibility? And is there anything specific she should mention during the application process?

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Amara Adebayo

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my cousin gets survivior benefets for her kids and calFRESH too, but they only gave her like $95 a month cuz the socil security counts as income. still better than nothing tho!!

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THIS!!! When I applied with my son's survivor benefits they gave us $43/month which is an absolute joke. Can't even buy milk and cereal with that. The system is totally rigged against working parents!!! They act like survivor benefits are some huge windfall when it barely covers rent and clothes for growing kids. 😡

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To give you the most accurate information: Yes, they can apply for CalFresh, but Social Security Survivor Benefits are indeed counted as unearned income. Here's what they need to know: 1. The kids' Survivor Benefits + mom's income will be calculated together for household income 2. They'll likely qualify for some amount, but it might be reduced due to total income 3. They should still get deductions for housing costs, childcare expenses, and medical expenses 4. Even a small CalFresh benefit automatically qualifies the kids for free school meals They should definitely apply through BenefitsCal.com and be honest about all income sources. Many people don't realize that even a minimal CalFresh benefit ($23-95) can be really valuable because it opens doors to other programs.

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This is super helpful. I didn't know about the connection to free school meals. Her oldest is in high school and eats SO MUCH, so that would be a big help. I'll let her know to include her rent costs when applying too.

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Dylan Evans

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they count ALL the money for calfresh thats why its barly worth applying serusly. when my husband died i was getting like $40 a month for me and 3 kids and had to report every penny we got. such a hassle for literally nothing

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Sofia Gomez

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I know it feels like that sometimes, but even the minimum CalFresh benefit lets you get free school meals, discounted internet through ACP, and sometimes utility discounts too. It's not just about the food money - it's the other benefits that help a lot.

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StormChaser

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Did your sister ever try calling the CalFresh office directly? I had a similar situation with my nephew's survivor benefits, and trying to get someone on the phone was IMPOSSIBLE. I kept getting disconnected or stuck on hold for hours until I finally found this service called Claimyr that got me through to a real person in about 15 minutes. Their website is claimyr.com and they have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/jzISHxCPLwE The CalFresh worker explained exactly how they'd count the income and gave me a much better estimate than what I found online. Totally worth making the call because everyone's situation is different with survivor benefits.

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I don't think she's tried calling yet - just looked at some websites and got confused. I'll check out that service if she has trouble getting through. Did they give your nephew a decent benefit amount with the survivor benefits?

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Sofia Gomez

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One thing no one has mentioned: if your sister has high rent costs compared to her income, that can help increase her CalFresh amount. When they calculate benefits, they take the shelter costs into consideration. Also, if she pays for childcare for the 8-year-old so she can work, that's another deduction that could help her get more benefits. Make sure she reports ALL expenses when applying!

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This is actually really important! When I finally reported my ACTUAL rent ($2700 for a 2bd in LA) instead of just guessing, my benefit went up by $78/month. They have a formula where if your housing costs are over a certain percentage of your income, you get an extra deduction.

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One last thing to consider: if they do apply and get approved for even a small amount of CalFresh, they should also look into the California Food Assistance Program (CFAP). Some counties offer additional food benefits on top of CalFresh. It's not a separate application - they're automatically considered if they qualify for CalFresh.

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Amara Adebayo

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oh yea thats rite! i get a little extra on top of my regular calfresh and didnt even know why until i asked my worker. its not alot but hey every little bit helps when your trying to feed kids!

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Nia Jackson

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Just wanted to add - when your sister applies, make sure she has documentation ready for both the survivor benefits AND her Target paystubs. The application process goes much smoother when you have everything organized upfront. Also, if she's denied initially, don't give up! A lot of people get approved on appeal, especially when survivor benefits are involved because the workers sometimes miscalculate the income limits. The worst thing that can happen is they say no, but at least you'll know for sure where they stand. With two growing kids and LA grocery prices, it's definitely worth the effort to apply.

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Jamal Brown

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That's really good advice about having all the paperwork ready! I've been helping my sister gather everything and it's a lot more documents than I expected. Do you know if they need anything special for the survivor benefits documentation, or will the Social Security award letters be enough? Also, good point about appealing if denied - I didn't realize that was even an option. Thanks for the encouragement!

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As someone new to this community, I just wanted to say thank you all for sharing such detailed and helpful information! I'm in a similar situation with my neighbor who lost her husband and is struggling to navigate all these benefits with her kids. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly valuable - especially learning about the connection between CalFresh and free school meals, and how shelter costs can help increase benefits. It's clear this community really cares about helping families get the support they need. I'll definitely be sharing some of these tips with my neighbor, particularly about having all the documentation ready and not giving up if initially denied. You all are doing amazing work supporting each other through these complicated systems!

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Ryan Kim

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Welcome to the community, Natasha! It's wonderful to see how much you care about helping your neighbor navigate this difficult time. The information shared here really is invaluable - I've learned so much just from reading everyone's experiences. It sounds like your neighbor is lucky to have someone like you looking out for her and her kids. These benefit systems can be so overwhelming, especially when you're grieving and trying to manage everything on your own. Please let us know if you or your neighbor have any other questions as you go through the application process - this community is always here to help!

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ShadowHunter

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I'm new here but wanted to share something that might help - my aunt went through this exact situation in Orange County last year after my uncle passed. Her kids were getting survivor benefits and she was working part-time at a grocery store. What really made a difference was when she found out about the CalFresh "simplified reporting" option. Instead of having to report every little change in income throughout the year, she only had to report if her monthly income went up by more than $100 or if the survivor benefits changed. This made managing the benefits SO much less stressful during an already difficult time. Also, the caseworker told her that survivor benefits for kids are treated differently than other Social Security benefits in some calculations, so it's definitely worth applying even if the income seems borderline. The application might look complicated but the potential benefits (including all those connected programs people mentioned) are really worth it for families with kids.

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Thank you for sharing your aunt's experience with simplified reporting - I had no idea that was even an option! That sounds like it would really reduce the stress of managing CalFresh while dealing with everything else. It's also really helpful to know that survivor benefits for kids might be calculated differently than other Social Security benefits. I'm definitely going to mention both of these points to my sister when she applies. The whole process seems so much less intimidating when you hear from people who have actually been through it. Your aunt sounds like she navigated a really tough situation well, and I'm glad she was able to get the help her family needed.

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