CalFresh benefits denied because I live in Section 8 housing - how do they calculate income?
So I've been living in Section 8 housing for about 7 months now, and I just got denied for CalFresh benefits. The denial letter says my 'household income exceeds the limit for program eligibility' but that makes no sense to me! My Section 8 voucher was approved BECAUSE my income is low. I'm a single mom with 2 kids making $2,950/month at my nursing assistant job. The caseworker mentioned something about my housing subsidy being counted as 'income' for CalFresh? Is that even right? I'm so confused because I thought these programs were supposed to work together to help families like mine. Has anyone else in Section 8 housing successfully gotten CalFresh? What income did they actually count when they calculated your eligibility?
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Landon Morgan
yeah the same thing happend to me last yr. They told me my section 8 was 'income' which makes NO sense!!
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Ellie Perry
•Did you ever get it resolved? I'm really struggling to feed my kids right now.
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Teresa Boyd
There's a common misunderstanding here. Section 8 housing assistance is NOT counted as income for CalFresh eligibility. However, they do look at your gross income ($2,950) and compare it to the program limits. For a household of 3 in 2025, the gross monthly income limit is approximately $3,250, so you should actually qualify. My guess is there was an error in your application or the worker miscalculated something. Did you include both your children as part of your household? Did you list any other income sources they might have misinterpreted?
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Ellie Perry
•Wow, thank you! I definitely included both my kids on the application. The only other thing I can think of is that I got a small bonus at work ($550) the month before I applied. Could that have thrown things off? Should I reapply or appeal the decision?
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Lourdes Fox
I'd recommend filing an appeal right away rather than reapplying. You only have 90 days from the date on your denial notice to request a fair hearing. The bonus might have temporarily pushed your income up, but they're supposed to consider your ongoing income for eligibility. Make sure you explain in your appeal that the bonus was a one-time thing.
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Ellie Perry
•Thank you so much! I'll file the appeal this week. Do you know how long the appeal process usually takes? We're really struggling with food right now.
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Bruno Simmons
Just went through this!!! The most important thing is to file that appeal FAST and then try calling your caseworker EVERY DAY to explain the situation. I was calling for two weeks straight and couldn't get through to anyone until I found this service called Claimyr. It lets you skip the phone wait times when calling CalFresh - they call and wait on hold for you, then connect you when a real person answers. Seriously saved me hours of frustration. Their website is claimyr.com and they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/eZ19FHRETv8?si=_CXnXqNXbLl26WB8 that shows how it works. Once I finally got through to my worker, they fixed my case in like 5 minutes!
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Ellie Perry
•That sounds amazing! I've been trying to call for days with no luck. I'll check out that service, thanks!
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Aileen Rodriguez
the WHOLE system is designed to keep poor people poor. they PURPOSELY make these rules confusing so you'll give up. I was on Section 8 for 6 years and CalFresh for 4 and CONSTANTLY had to fight with them about income calculations. They once counted my 16yo daughter's part-time job at McDonalds and cut my benefits!!! HAD TO APPEAL!!! These caseworkers don't care and half of them don't even know their own rules!!!
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Landon Morgan
•THIS!!! 💯 They make it impossible on purpose!!!
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Zane Gray
I'm on both Section 8 and CalFresh right now. Make sure when you're filling out the application that you're really clear about which income is regular and which was just one-time. I also had to provide my last 4 pay stubs to prove what my regular income was. Do you have any other expenses like childcare or medical expenses? Those can be deducted and might help you qualify.
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Ellie Perry
•Yes! I pay $780/month for childcare during summer months. I don't think I included that on my application because I wasn't sure if it counted. I'll definitely mention that in my appeal!
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Teresa Boyd
That childcare deduction is HUGE and will almost certainly make you eligible! For CalFresh, they subtract your childcare expenses from your income before determining eligibility. With $780 in childcare expenses, your adjusted income for CalFresh would only be about $2,170, which is well below the limit for a family of 3. When you file your appeal, bring documentation of your childcare expenses (receipts, contract with provider, etc.). This alone should resolve your case. And yes, make sure to explain that the $550 bonus was a one-time occurrence, not part of your regular monthly income.
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Ellie Perry
•Thank you SO much for explaining this! I had no idea childcare costs could make such a difference. I've got all my receipts ready and I'm feeling much more hopeful now.
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Maggie Martinez
my sister works for the county and says they're super backed up right now with calfresh applications so sometimes they just deny things without looking closely if theres any question... its not right but thats what happens. definitely appeal and get through to a real person who can review your case properly
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Ellie Perry
UPDATE: I used that Claimyr service to get through to my caseworker (it really worked!) and explained about the childcare expenses and one-time bonus. She was actually really helpful once I got her on the phone. She said I should definitely qualify and helped me file an appeal. She's also expediting my case because of my situation with the kids. Thanks everyone for your help! Will update again when I hear back.
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Zane Gray
•That's great news! The childcare expenses should definitely make the difference. Keep us posted on how it goes.
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Landon Morgan
•awesome!! hope they backpay you too!!
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Sean Murphy
So glad you got through to someone who could help! This is exactly why I always tell people to keep pushing when they get denied - there are so many mistakes made during the initial review process. The fact that you weren't asked about childcare expenses on your original application is a red flag that the caseworker didn't do their job properly. Those deductions can make or break eligibility for families like yours. Fingers crossed your appeal goes through quickly and you get approved with backpay!
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Javier Garcia
•This whole thread has been so helpful to read as someone new to navigating these programs! I'm just starting the CalFresh application process myself and had no idea about things like childcare deductions or how one-time income could affect eligibility. It's really encouraging to see how the community comes together to help each other figure out these confusing systems. @32a1b7165b12 I'm so glad you were able to get through to someone and get your case moving forward - hopefully more people will see this thread and know not to give up after an initial denial!
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Mateo Lopez
This is such an important thread for anyone dealing with CalFresh denials! I'm a case manager at a local food assistance nonprofit and I see this exact situation ALL the time. The biggest issue is that many caseworkers don't ask the right questions during the initial application review. They're required to ask about dependent care expenses, medical costs, and shelter expenses that can be deducted, but it often gets missed in the rush to process applications. For anyone reading this - ALWAYS mention childcare costs, even if you think they won't count. Also, if you get denied, don't just reapply right away - appeal first because you keep your place in line and they have to do a more thorough review. And definitely keep all your documentation organized (pay stubs, childcare receipts, medical bills) because you'll need them for the appeal process.
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Freya Thomsen
•Thank you for sharing your professional perspective! As someone who just joined this community and is trying to understand how these programs work, it's really valuable to hear from someone who sees these cases regularly. Your point about keeping documentation organized is so important - I'm realizing there are so many details that can make or break an application that aren't obvious to newcomers like me. It sounds like the system really puts the burden on applicants to know all the right things to mention, which seems backwards when people are already struggling. Is there a checklist somewhere of all the possible deductions people should be aware of before they apply?
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