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NebulaNomad

why did i receive a florida ucc statement service termination request form

Got a termination request form in the mail from Florida UCC filing service today and I'm completely lost. We moved our business from Florida to Georgia about 8 months ago and thought everything was handled by our attorney. The form mentions something about a UCC-1 filing from 2019 for equipment financing but I honestly don't remember the details. It's asking me to respond within 20 days or they'll process the termination automatically. Should I be worried about this? We still owe money on that equipment loan and I don't want to mess up our lender relationship. The debtor name on the form matches our old Florida business registration but we've since reincorporated in Georgia. Do I need to do anything or just ignore it since we moved states?

Javier Garcia

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Don't ignore that termination request! This sounds like your original lender is trying to clean up their UCC filings now that your loan might be paid off or transferred. Even though you moved to Georgia, that Florida UCC-1 is still active and creating a lien on your equipment. If you still owe money on that loan, you definitely need to contact your lender before letting any termination go through.

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NebulaNomad

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We definitely still owe about $180k on that equipment. Should I call the lender first or respond to the termination service directly?

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Javier Garcia

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Call your lender immediately. They should be handling any UCC terminations, not a third-party service. Something doesn't add up here.

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Emma Taylor

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Wait, are you sure this is legitimate? I've seen scam termination requests that try to get businesses to pay unnecessary fees. Real terminations usually come directly from the Secretary of State or your actual lender, not some random service company. Check the Florida SOS database to see if there's actually a UCC-1 filed under your business name.

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NebulaNomad

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How do I check the Florida database? I tried looking online but couldn't find anything obvious.

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Emma Taylor

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Go to dos.myflorida.com and look for UCC search. You'll need your exact business name as it was registered in Florida.

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This is exactly why I always recommend keeping track of all your UCC filings in a spreadsheet. Too many businesses lose track of what's active.

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I had something similar happen when we relocated from Texas to Colorado. Turned out our old lender sold our loan to another company and the new servicer was trying to file terminations on the original UCC-1s before filing new ones in Colorado. Made a complete mess of our credit lines. I ended up using Certana.ai's document verification tool to upload all our loan docs and UCC filings to make sure everything matched up properly. Saved us from a major headache with the banks.

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NebulaNomad

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That sounds exactly like what might be happening to us. How does that verification tool work?

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You just upload PDFs of your loan agreements and any UCC documents you have. It automatically checks if the debtor names match, filing numbers are consistent, and catches any discrepancies that could cause problems. Really straightforward.

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Never heard of Certana but that sounds useful. We've had so many name changes and amendments over the years I can barely keep track.

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CosmosCaptain

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HOLD UP. If you reincorporated in Georgia under a different business name, that Florida UCC-1 might not even be enforceable anymore depending on how your loan agreement was structured. BUT - and this is important - your lender might have already filed new UCC-1s in Georgia under your new entity name. You could have duplicate filings creating confusion. This is exactly the kind of situation where you need to verify all your documentation is consistent.

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NebulaNomad

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Our business name is slightly different in Georgia - we dropped 'LLC' and added 'Inc' at the end. Could that be causing issues?

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CosmosCaptain

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Absolutely! Debtor name mismatches are one of the biggest causes of UCC filing problems. Even small changes like LLC vs Inc can invalidate filings if not handled properly.

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This is why I always tell people to run document checks when they make any business changes. One small name discrepancy can void your entire security interest.

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Omar Fawzi

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OMG this is giving me anxiety just reading it. We're planning to move our business from California to Nevada next year and I had no idea UCC filings could be this complicated. Do we need to terminate everything in California and refile in Nevada?

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Javier Garcia

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Not necessarily. It depends on where your collateral is located and what your loan agreements say. Each situation is different.

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Omar Fawzi

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Great, another thing to worry about. Why is business relocation so complicated?

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That's exactly why I mentioned the Certana verification tool earlier. When we were planning our move, I uploaded all our docs first to see what discrepancies existed before talking to lawyers. Much cheaper than paying attorney fees to sort through everything.

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Chloe Wilson

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Been dealing with UCC filings for 15 years and this sounds suspicious to me. Legitimate termination requests usually come with more documentation - copies of the original UCC-1, proof of debt satisfaction, etc. A form asking you to respond within 20 days or they'll 'automatically process' sounds like a shake-down.

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NebulaNomad

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It does seem weird now that you mention it. The form is pretty basic and doesn't reference our loan number or anything specific.

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Chloe Wilson

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Red flag right there. Real terminations reference specific filing numbers, original filing dates, and usually require notarized signatures.

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Diego Mendoza

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I got burned by something similar. Paid $450 to some service that promised to 'clean up' my UCC filings. Turned out they just filed a bunch of unnecessary amendments.

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Quick question - did this form come certified mail or just regular mail? Most legitimate UCC termination requests come certified because they're legal documents.

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NebulaNomad

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Regular mail, just showed up in our mailbox yesterday.

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Yeah, that's another red flag. I'd ignore it and contact your lender directly.

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StellarSurfer

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Whatever you do, don't let them process any termination without talking to your lender first! A few years ago we had a UCC-1 terminated by mistake and it took 6 months to get our credit line restored. The bank treated it like we'd paid off the entire loan and froze our operating credit. Nearly killed our cash flow.

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NebulaNomad

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Oh wow, that's exactly what I was worried about. Definitely calling our lender first thing Monday morning.

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StellarSurfer

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Smart move. Also document everything - dates, times, who you talked to. UCC issues can drag on forever if you don't have good records.

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Sean Kelly

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This is why I keep digital copies of every UCC document. Had to prove a filing was bogus last year and having the original PDFs saved me.

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Zara Malik

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The interstate business relocation thing is tricky. Your Florida UCC-1 stays active for its full term (usually 5 years) even if you move states, unless it gets properly terminated or amended. But if your lender didn't file new UCC-1s in Georgia, they might not have a perfected security interest in your new state. Creates a legal gray area that benefits nobody.

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NebulaNomad

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How would I know if they filed new UCC-1s in Georgia? Should I check the Georgia SOS database too?

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Zara Malik

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Definitely. Check both states to see what's active under your old and new business names.

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Luca Greco

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I used Certana's tool for exactly this situation. Uploaded our loan docs and it flagged that we had UCC-1s in two different states with slightly different debtor names. Helped us clean everything up before it became a problem.

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Nia Thompson

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Just my 2 cents but I'd treat this like any other potential scam until proven otherwise. Call your lender, verify everything, and don't pay any fees to mystery companies. The UCC system has enough legitimate complexity without adding scammers to the mix.

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NebulaNomad

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Good point. I was starting to panic but you're right - verify first, panic later if needed.

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Nia Thompson

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Exactly. Most UCC problems have straightforward solutions once you get the facts straight.

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