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Amara Oluwaseyi

UCC search Vermont showing weird filing status - anyone else see this?

Been trying to run a UCC search Vermont on some collateral we financed last year and the results are confusing as hell. The debtor name shows up but the filing status says 'continuation pending' when I know for sure we filed the original UCC-1 in March 2024. The collateral description matches but something's off with the timeline. Has anyone else run into this when doing Vermont UCC searches? I'm worried we missed something critical with the continuation filing.

CosmicCaptain

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Vermont's search system has been acting up lately. What exactly are you seeing when you pull up the filing? Sometimes their database doesn't update the status immediately after continuation filings are processed.

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The original UCC-1 shows filed 03/15/2024 but then there's this continuation entry dated 12/20/2024 that just says 'pending review' - doesn't make sense since we're nowhere near the 5-year mark yet

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Wait, you filed in March 2024 and there's already a continuation? That's definitely wrong - continuations are only needed within 6 months before the 5-year expiration

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I had a similar issue with Vermont UCC searches last month. Turns out someone at the borrower's company filed an unauthorized continuation by mistake. Check if the secured party name on that continuation matches exactly - might be a different lender entirely.

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Good point - I'll double check the secured party info. The debtor name looks right but I didn't verify our company name character by character

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This happened to us too! Found out the borrower's previous lender filed a continuation on an old UCC that should have been terminated. Created a huge mess with our loan documentation.

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Exactly what I was thinking. Vermont's system will show all filings against that debtor name even if they're from different secured parties or relate to different collateral

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ugh vermont's portal is the WORST for this stuff... half the time the search results don't even load properly and when they do the dates are all screwed up

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CosmicCaptain

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Their system definitely has issues but the data is usually accurate once you dig into the individual filing details

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maybe for you but i've had searches come back with filings that were already terminated showing as active. had to call them three times to get it sorted

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Dmitry Petrov

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For situations like this where you're getting confusing search results, I've started using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload your original UCC-1 and any continuation documents as PDFs and it will instantly cross-check the debtor names, filing numbers, and document consistency. Really helps catch these kinds of discrepancies before they become bigger problems with your loan agreements.

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Never heard of that but sounds useful. How does it work exactly? Just upload the PDFs and it compares them?

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Dmitry Petrov

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Yeah exactly - super simple interface. Just drag and drop your Charter and UCC-1 documents or run a UCC-3 to UCC-1 comparison workflow. It flags any name mismatches or inconsistencies that could void your security interest. Saved me from a major headache last month when I caught a debtor name typo.

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StarSurfer

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That actually sounds really helpful for catching filing errors before they become expensive problems

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Ava Martinez

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Check the filing number on that continuation - it should reference your original UCC-1 filing number. If it doesn't match, then it's definitely not related to your filing. Vermont requires the original filing number on all amendments and continuations.

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The filing number prefix is different - mine starts with VT-24 but the continuation shows VT-22. That can't be referencing my March 2024 filing

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Ava Martinez

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Bingo! That continuation is for a completely different UCC filing from 2022. Your March 2024 filing is fine - this is just search noise from an unrelated lender

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Miguel Castro

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This is why I always tell people to check the actual filing numbers, not just debtor names. Vermont's search pulls up everything with matching debtor info

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Had this exact same confusion last week! Vermont's UCC search doesn't filter by secured party automatically so you see every filing against that debtor name. The 'continuation pending' status you're seeing is probably from an old lender who's trying to extend their security interest on different collateral.

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That makes so much sense now. I was panicking thinking we screwed up our filing timeline somehow

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Connor Byrne

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Yeah Vermont really needs to improve their search interface. Other states let you filter by secured party name right from the search screen

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Yara Elias

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Pro tip for Vermont UCC searches - always click into the individual filing details to verify the secured party name and collateral description. The summary view can be misleading when there are multiple liens against the same debtor. I learned this the hard way when I almost filed an unnecessary termination based on search results that weren't even for our loan.

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Definitely going to be more careful about that going forward. Thanks for the tip!

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QuantumQuasar

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This is solid advice. I always print out the full filing details page for my loan files to avoid any confusion later

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Yara Elias

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Smart approach. Having the detailed filing info also helps if you need to reference specific language in the collateral description for amendments or partial releases

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Wait I'm confused - if the original UCC-1 was filed in March 2024, why would there be any continuation at all? Continuations are only needed within 6 months of the 5-year expiration date, so that would be around March 2029 for your filing.

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Right, that's exactly why I was confused! Turns out it's a continuation for a completely different UCC filing from 2022 that happens to have the same debtor name

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Ah okay that makes way more sense. Vermont really should make their search results clearer about which filings belong to which secured party

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Paolo Moretti

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This is a common source of confusion for new filers. Always verify the filing numbers match between your original UCC-1 and any related amendments or continuations

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Amina Diop

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I've seen this issue with other borrowers who have multiple lenders. Each lender files their own UCC-1 against the same debtor, so when you search you get a mix of active, terminated, and pending filings from different secured parties. The key is matching the filing numbers like others mentioned.

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Oliver Weber

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Exactly this. We have borrowers with 4-5 different UCC filings from various lenders and it creates a mess in the search results

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Makes sense now. I should have been more careful about checking the secured party names and filing numbers from the start

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For what it's worth, I recently started using Certana.ai to double-check these kinds of filing discrepancies. You can upload multiple UCC documents and it automatically flags any inconsistencies in debtor names, filing numbers, or document references. Would have saved you the confusion by catching that the continuation wasn't actually related to your UCC-1.

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Second person to mention that tool - might be worth checking out. Better to catch these issues early than discover them during a workout situation

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Definitely. The peace of mind is worth it when you're dealing with complex collateral packages or borrowers with multiple lenders

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NebulaNinja

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This whole thread is making me paranoid about my own Vermont filings now. Going to go double-check all my recent UCC searches to make sure I'm not missing anything important.

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CosmicCaptain

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Good idea! It's always worth doing a periodic audit of your UCC portfolio to catch any filing issues before they become problems

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Javier Gomez

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I do quarterly UCC audits for all our loans. Found several terminated filings that should have been continued and caught a few debtor name mismatches that could have caused issues

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NebulaNinja

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How do you manage that many filings? Sounds like a lot of manual work to check each one individually

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