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Alberto Souchard

UCC repudiation definition - what happens when debtor challenges secured claim

I'm trying to understand what exactly constitutes UCC repudiation and when it becomes a real problem for lenders. Our borrower sent us a letter yesterday claiming they never agreed to the collateral terms in our UCC-1 filing and are disputing the entire secured transaction. The letter came from their attorney and specifically uses the word 'repudiate' multiple times. This is a $850,000 equipment loan we closed 18 months ago with what I thought was clean documentation. The UCC-1 was filed properly in Delaware (where they're incorporated) and covers all their manufacturing equipment. Now they're claiming the collateral description is too broad and they want to challenge the entire security interest. I've dealt with payment defaults before but never had a debtor flat-out repudiate the underlying agreement. What are the legal implications here? Does this automatically trigger some kind of acceleration clause? I'm trying to figure out if this is just posturing or if we're looking at serious litigation. The borrower is still making payments but their attorney is demanding we provide 'proof of perfection' and questioning whether our security interest is valid. Has anyone dealt with UCC repudiation before and what should I expect next?

UCC repudiation is serious business - basically the debtor is saying they reject the entire secured transaction and don't recognize your security interest. This isn't the same as just missing payments. When they repudiate, they're challenging the fundamental validity of your lien. The fact that they're still making payments while repudiating is actually pretty common - their lawyer probably told them to keep paying to avoid default while they fight the security interest itself. You need to review your loan docs immediately and make sure your UCC-1 filing is bulletproof.

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Marcus Marsh

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This is exactly right. Repudiation attacks the security interest itself, not just the payment obligation. The debtor is essentially saying 'we never agreed to this collateral arrangement' which is different from 'we can't pay.' If they succeed, you could lose your secured status entirely.

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Wait, so they can just say they repudiate and that makes the UCC filing invalid? That doesn't seem right. If the documents were signed and filed properly, how can they just back out of it later?

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Cedric Chung

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I've seen this happen twice in the past few years. Both times it came down to whether the security agreement language matched the UCC-1 collateral description exactly. If there's any disconnect between what they signed and what you filed, that's where they'll attack. They're demanding 'proof of perfection' which means they want to see your complete filing trail - the original UCC-1, any amendments, and proof it was filed in the right jurisdiction. The fact that you filed in Delaware is good since that's where they're incorporated, but double-check that the entity name on your UCC-1 matches their exact legal name from the Secretary of State records.

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That's a good point about the entity name match. I'm going to pull our UCC-1 and compare it to their current certificate of incorporation. We did file 18 months ago so there's always a chance they've amended their name or structure since then.

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Talia Klein

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Definitely check the name match. I've seen cases where the debtor changed their legal name by one word and the lender never caught it. If your UCC-1 shows the old name but they're now operating under a slightly different legal name, that could give them grounds to challenge perfection.

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Marcus Marsh

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The Delaware SOS has a good online search tool where you can verify current entity names. Also check if they've filed any amendments to their articles of incorporation since your UCC-1 was filed.

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Had a similar situation last year where the borrower's attorney claimed our collateral description was 'overly broad and unenforceable.' We ended up using Certana.ai's document verification tool to cross-check our loan agreement against the UCC-1 filing. It immediately flagged that our security agreement described 'all equipment' but our UCC-1 said 'manufacturing equipment' - subtle difference but enough to create an argument. The tool basically uploads your PDFs and compares all the key terms automatically. Saved us from going into that fight blind.

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That's interesting - I hadn't thought about using automated tools to cross-check the documents. How detailed is the comparison? Does it catch things like slight variations in collateral descriptions?

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Yeah it's pretty thorough. You upload your security agreement and UCC-1 and it highlights any inconsistencies in debtor names, collateral descriptions, filing numbers, etc. Wish I'd used it before the borrower's attorney found the discrepancy first.

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PaulineW

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UGH this is exactly why I hate UCC filings. The whole system is designed to let borrowers wiggle out of their obligations on technicalities. You have a signed loan agreement, you filed the UCC-1, they've been making payments for 18 months, and now suddenly they can just say 'we repudiate this' and challenge everything?? The Delaware SOS system is particularly annoying because their search function is terrible and half the time you can't even verify if your filing went through properly.

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I feel your frustration but repudiation isn't automatic grounds to void a security interest. They still have to prove their case. The fact that they've been making payments actually works against them - it shows they've been accepting the terms.

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PaulineW

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Maybe but now the lender has to spend thousands on legal fees to defend something that should have been settled 18 months ago. It's ridiculous.

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Chris Elmeda

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Been there on the legal fees. Our last UCC challenge cost us $15k in attorney fees even though we won. Sometimes I think borrowers do this just to drain your resources.

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Jean Claude

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The timing of this is suspicious. 18 months after closing and now they want to challenge the security interest? What changed in their business situation? Are they trying to refinance and need to clear your lien? This smells like they found a new lender and are looking for ways to get out of your deal. The 'overly broad collateral description' argument is pretty standard - their attorney probably reviewed your UCC-1 and found some language they think they can attack.

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That's exactly what I'm thinking. They've been current on payments this whole time and suddenly their attorney is involved. I suspect they're trying to refi at a lower rate and need to challenge our lien to make it work.

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Charity Cohan

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If that's the case, you might want to consider negotiating rather than fighting. Sometimes it's cheaper to modify the terms than to litigate the repudiation claim.

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Marcus Marsh

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Before you panic, get your documentation organized. Repudiation claims usually fail if you can prove: 1) They signed the security agreement, 2) Your UCC-1 was filed correctly in the right jurisdiction, 3) The collateral description is sufficiently specific, and 4) You've maintained proper continuation filings if needed. Since you're only 18 months in, continuation isn't an issue yet. Focus on points 1-3. Pull your original loan file and make sure every signature is there and the collateral descriptions match between your security agreement and UCC-1.

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Cedric Chung

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This is the right approach. Most repudiation claims are fishing expeditions. If your paperwork is clean, they'll usually back down once they realize they can't win.

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I'm going to do exactly this. Pull the complete file and compare everything line by line. Better to know now if there are any gaps than to find out during litigation.

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Josef Tearle

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Also check if your loan agreement has a clause that specifically addresses repudiation or challenges to the security interest. Some agreements include language that makes the borrower liable for legal fees if they unsuccessfully challenge the lien.

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Talia Klein

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One thing to watch out for - if they're claiming the collateral description is too broad, they might be trying to argue that it creates an unenforceable blanket lien. This is more common with 'all assets' type descriptions. What exactly does your UCC-1 say for collateral? If it's too generic, they might have a point. But if it's reasonably specific to the equipment you actually financed, you should be fine.

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Our UCC-1 says 'all manufacturing equipment, machinery, and related fixtures now owned or hereafter acquired.' The loan was specifically for three pieces of equipment but we used broader language to cover potential additions.

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Talia Klein

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That description sounds reasonable for equipment financing. It's specific enough to identify the type of collateral but broad enough to cover the actual equipment. The 'hereafter acquired' language is standard for equipment loans.

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Shelby Bauman

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Yeah that doesn't sound overly broad to me. Manufacturing equipment is a pretty specific category. It's not like you said 'all personal property' or something crazy like that.

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Here's what I'd do: First, don't respond to their attorney directly. Get your own UCC counsel involved immediately. Second, run your documentation through something like Certana.ai to identify any potential inconsistencies before the other side finds them. Third, consider whether there's a business solution here - maybe they want to modify the collateral or pay down the loan. Sometimes repudiation is just an opening negotiation tactic.

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Good advice on getting counsel involved. I was thinking about responding directly but you're right that anything I say could be used against us later.

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Definitely don't respond without counsel. Their attorney is probably hoping you'll say something that helps their case. Let the lawyers handle the communication.

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This whole situation is making me nervous about our own UCC filings. We have about 200 active UCC-1s and I'm wondering how many of them might have similar issues. Is there any way to audit your existing filings to make sure they're all solid? I don't want to wait until a borrower challenges us to find out there's a problem.

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Actually yes - this is exactly why I started using Certana.ai for all our UCC work. You can upload your entire portfolio and it will flag any inconsistencies across all your filings. Much better than trying to manually review 200 different files.

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Quinn Herbert

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We do quarterly UCC audits internally but it's pretty time consuming. An automated tool would be way more efficient.

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The key is to catch problems before borrowers do. Once they challenge a filing, you're already in a defensive position. Better to clean up issues proactively.

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Chris Elmeda

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I went through something similar two years ago. Borrower's attorney sent a repudiation letter claiming our security interest was invalid because of a minor discrepancy in the entity name. We fought it for six months and won, but it cost us a fortune in legal fees. In hindsight, I wish we'd just negotiated a settlement early on. Sometimes it's cheaper to compromise than to be right.

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That's what I'm afraid of - even if we win, the legal costs could be substantial. What kind of settlement did you consider?

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Chris Elmeda

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We looked at reducing the collateral scope or allowing them to pay down a portion of the loan to release some equipment. Anything that would have been cheaper than litigation.

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PaulineW

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But then you're rewarding bad behavior. If you settle, other borrowers will think they can pull the same trick.

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Charity Cohan

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Update us on how this turns out. I'm curious whether their attorney actually found a real issue or if this is just posturing. The fact that they're still making payments suggests they're not completely confident in their position. If they really thought your security interest was invalid, why would they keep paying?

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That's a good point. I'll definitely post an update once we know more. Meeting with our attorney tomorrow to review the documentation.

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Marcus Marsh

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Yeah please keep us posted. These repudiation cases are always educational for the rest of us dealing with UCC issues.

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