UCC lien paypal merchant cash advance showing on credit report
Has anyone dealt with a UCC lien from PayPal showing up on their business credit? I got a merchant cash advance through PayPal Working Capital about 18 months ago for $45K to expand inventory. Paid it off completely last month but now I'm seeing a UCC-1 filing still active on my Experian business report. The debtor name shows my LLC exactly as registered but the collateral description is super broad - 'all accounts, chattel paper, instruments, and general intangibles.' I'm trying to refinance some equipment and the bank is asking about this lien. PayPal customer service keeps transferring me around and nobody seems to know how to handle the UCC termination. The original advance was fully satisfied but I can't get anyone to file a UCC-3 termination statement. This is blocking my equipment financing and I'm getting frustrated with the runaround. Anyone know how to get PayPal to properly terminate their UCC filing after payoff?
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Nathan Dell
PayPal Working Capital definitely files UCC-1s on merchant cash advances. The broad collateral description is typical for these types of alternative financing arrangements. Did you get any documentation showing the advance was satisfied? You should have received some kind of payoff letter or satisfaction notice.
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Rebecca Johnston
•I have the final payment confirmation email but nothing that explicitly says the lien is released. Just shows zero balance remaining on the advance.
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Nathan Dell
•That's not enough for most lenders. You need a formal UCC-3 termination statement filed with the Secretary of State. The payoff confirmation doesn't clear the public record.
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Maya Jackson
I had the exact same issue with PayPal Working Capital last year! Took me 6 weeks to get them to file the UCC-3 termination. You have to escalate beyond regular customer service. Ask to speak with their 'secured transactions department' specifically. Don't let them transfer you to general collections or account management.
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Rebecca Johnston
•Did you have to provide any specific documentation to get them to file the termination?
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Maya Jackson
•Just proof of final payment and my business registration info to verify the debtor name matched exactly. The key was getting to the right department that handles UCC filings.
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Tristan Carpenter
•Six weeks is ridiculous for something that should be automatic after payoff. These fintech companies are terrible at proper lien management.
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Amaya Watson
Before you spend more time fighting with PayPal, I'd recommend using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload your PayPal agreement and any termination docs to make sure everything aligns properly. I discovered this after getting burned on a similar situation - it instantly cross-checks debtor names and filing details so you know exactly what needs to be corrected before approaching the lender.
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Rebecca Johnston
•That sounds helpful. How does it work exactly? Do I just upload PDFs?
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Amaya Watson
•Yeah, super simple. Upload your original PayPal agreement, the UCC-1 filing, and any payoff docs. It automatically flags inconsistencies in debtor names or missing termination requirements. Saves you from going back and forth with incorrect paperwork.
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Grant Vikers
•Never heard of that service but sounds like it could prevent a lot of headaches. These name mismatches are so common with fintech lenders.
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Giovanni Martello
PayPal is notorious for this. They're required by law to file UCC-3 terminations within a reasonable time after satisfaction but they drag their feet. You might need to threaten legal action or file a complaint with your state's financial regulators.
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Savannah Weiner
•Isn't there a specific timeframe they have to file the termination? I thought it was like 30 days after payoff.
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Giovanni Martello
•Depends on the state but most have 'reasonable time' standards. 30-60 days is typical. After that you can demand they cover any damages from the delayed termination.
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Levi Parker
•This is exactly why I avoid merchant cash advances. The UCC filing process is a nightmare with these alternative lenders.
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Libby Hassan
Check the original PayPal agreement carefully. Some of these fintech companies include weird clauses about UCC terminations that make the process more complicated than traditional bank loans.
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Rebecca Johnston
•I'll dig through the paperwork again. The agreement was pretty lengthy and I probably didn't read every detail about lien releases.
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Hunter Hampton
•Most people don't realize that merchant cash advances often have different UCC termination procedures than regular business loans. Always read the fine print on lien releases.
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Sofia Peña
This happened to my brother's construction company. PayPal eventually filed the UCC-3 but it took multiple escalations and threats to file complaints with regulators. Document every conversation and email with timestamps.
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Aaron Boston
•Good advice on documentation. These companies love to claim they never received your requests or that you spoke to someone who 'no longer works here.
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Sofia Peña
•Exactly. My brother had to forward the same payoff documentation three different times to three different departments. Keep everything organized.
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Sophia Carter
•I always send important requests via certified mail for this reason. Email can be ignored but certified mail creates a paper trail.
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Chloe Zhang
Try reaching out to PayPal's Executive Customer Relations team. Sometimes going straight to the top gets faster results than working through normal channels. Look for executive contact info on their corporate website.
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Rebecca Johnston
•That's a good idea. I've been stuck in the regular customer service loop for weeks now.
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Brandon Parker
•Executive escalations work great for these situations. Companies hate when these issues reach senior management because it reflects poorly on their processes.
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Adriana Cohn
•Just make sure you have all your documentation ready before contacting executives. They'll want to see proof of payoff and timeline of your attempts to resolve this.
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Jace Caspullo
Whatever you do, don't let this drag on indefinitely. The longer that UCC-1 stays active, the more it hurts your ability to get other financing. Banks see it as an outstanding secured debt even if it's been paid off.
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Melody Miles
•This is so true. I've seen businesses miss out on better financing deals because old UCC filings were never terminated properly.
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Rebecca Johnston
•That's exactly my concern. This equipment financing has a great rate but they won't proceed until this lien is cleared.
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Nathaniel Mikhaylov
•You might also want to check with the Secretary of State directly about what documentation they need for a UCC-3 termination. Sometimes you can work around the original creditor if you have proper proof of satisfaction.
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Eva St. Cyr
I'm dealing with something similar from a different alternative lender. Used Certana.ai to verify my termination paperwork before submitting it and caught a debtor name discrepancy that would have caused rejection. Saved me weeks of back-and-forth.
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Rebecca Johnston
•What kind of name discrepancy did you find?
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Eva St. Cyr
•The original UCC-1 had my LLC name slightly different from my current registration - missing a comma in the legal name. Would have caused the termination to be rejected for name mismatch.
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Kristian Bishop
•Those tiny details can kill a filing. Smart to double-check everything before submitting.
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Kaitlyn Otto
UPDATE: I finally got through to PayPal's secured transactions team after mentioning I was considering filing a complaint with my state's banking commission. They immediately escalated my case and promised to file the UCC-3 termination within 10 business days. Sometimes you need to mention regulatory complaints to get action.
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Maya Jackson
•Glad you got results! The threat of regulatory involvement usually gets these companies moving quickly.
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Axel Far
•That's great news. Make sure you follow up in 10 days to verify the termination was actually filed with the Secretary of State.
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Rebecca Johnston
•Thanks for the update! I'm going to try the same approach. Hopefully I can get this resolved before my equipment financing deadline.
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Kingston Bellamy
I went through this exact scenario with PayPal Working Capital about 8 months ago. Here's what worked for me: First, gather all your documentation - original agreement, payment confirmations, and account statements showing zero balance. Then call PayPal and immediately ask for the "secured transactions department" - don't waste time with regular customer service. If they try to transfer you elsewhere, politely insist you need someone who handles UCC filings specifically. When you get the right person, explain that you need a UCC-3 termination statement filed immediately and that this is blocking other financing. Be firm but professional, and mention that you understand they have legal obligations to file terminations in a reasonable timeframe. If they give you the runaround, mention that you're considering filing a complaint with your state's financial regulators - this usually gets immediate attention. Document every conversation with names, dates, and reference numbers. It took me about 3 weeks total, but the key was getting to the right department and being persistent. Don't let them brush you off - this is their responsibility to handle properly.
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Arnav Bengali
•This is incredibly helpful - thank you for the detailed breakdown! I've been spinning my wheels with regular customer service for weeks. Going to call tomorrow and ask specifically for "secured transactions department" right from the start. The regulatory complaint angle seems to be the magic phrase that gets results. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience!
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Lucas Turner
I had a similar issue with PayPal Working Capital about 6 months ago. What finally worked for me was sending a formal demand letter via certified mail to their legal department, not just calling customer service. I included copies of my payoff documentation, referenced the specific UCC-1 filing number, and cited my state's requirements for timely termination of security interests. I also mentioned that continued delay could result in damages to my business and that I would hold them liable for any financing opportunities lost due to their failure to file the required UCC-3 termination. Within two weeks of receiving the certified letter, they filed the termination statement. Sometimes you need to approach it from a legal compliance angle rather than just customer service requests. The key is making it clear that you understand your rights and their obligations under the UCC.
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Zainab Ibrahim
•This certified mail approach is brilliant! I never thought about going directly to their legal department with a formal demand letter. That definitely carries more weight than phone calls to customer service. Do you happen to remember what specific language you used regarding state UCC requirements? I want to make sure I reference the right statutes when I draft my letter. The liability angle for lost financing opportunities is also really smart - puts them on notice that there are real business consequences to their delays.
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Ella Knight
•@f005f545477f That's exactly the approach I needed to hear about! I've been getting nowhere with phone calls. Could you share what address you used for PayPal's legal department? I want to make sure my certified letter reaches the right people. Also wondering if you included a specific deadline in your demand letter - like "please respond within 15 days" or something similar? I'm dealing with time pressure on my equipment financing so want to give them a reasonable but firm timeline to act.
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Ethan Moore
I'm dealing with a similar UCC lien issue right now with a different fintech lender, and this thread has been incredibly eye-opening. It's frustrating how these alternative lenders seem to have no standardized process for UCC-3 terminations after payoff. Traditional banks handle this automatically, but these newer companies treat it like an afterthought. I'm definitely going to try the "secured transactions department" approach and the certified mail to legal department strategy. It's concerning how many businesses are probably stuck with these phantom liens on their credit reports without even realizing it. Has anyone here had success getting retroactive damages from a lender for delayed UCC terminations? My situation has been dragging on for over 60 days and I've already lost one financing opportunity because of it.
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