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Oliver Brown

How to get a UCC filing removed after loan payoff - lender won't respond

Been dealing with this nightmare for 3 months now. Paid off my equipment loan in full back in October but the UCC-1 is still showing up on my credit profile and blocking me from refinancing another property. The original lender (mid-size regional bank) has been completely unresponsive to my calls and emails about filing a UCC-3 termination. I have proof of payment, loan satisfaction letter, everything. But they just won't file the termination statement. My attorney says I can file myself but I'm worried about messing up the debtor name or filing number since their original UCC-1 has some weird spacing in my business name. Has anyone dealt with getting a UCC filing removed when the secured party won't cooperate? This is seriously holding up a $2.8M commercial refi that's time sensitive.

Mary Bates

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Ugh this is so frustrating! I had something similar happen last year. The lender kept saying they'd 'get to it' but never did. You definitely can file the termination yourself but you need to be super careful about matching everything exactly from the original filing. Any tiny difference in the debtor name or collateral description can cause problems.

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Exactly this. The debtor name has to match character for character including spaces and punctuation. I've seen filings get rejected for missing a comma.

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Ayla Kumar

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Wait can you really file your own termination? I thought only the secured party could do that?

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Mary Bates

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In most states if you have proof the debt is satisfied you can file an authorized termination. But check your state's specific rules first.

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Had this exact situation with a defaulting lender. First step is to pull the exact UCC-1 filing from your state's SOS database so you can see exactly how they formatted everything. Then you'll need your satisfaction documents and you can file a UCC-3 termination statement. Most states let you do this online now. The key is matching the debtor name, secured party name, and filing number exactly as they appear on the original UCC-1.

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Oliver Brown

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That's helpful. Do you remember what the filing fee was? And how long did it take to show up as terminated in the system?

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Think it was around $25 in my state. Showed up as terminated within 24 hours since I filed electronically. Much faster than waiting for the bank!

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Some states require notarization for termination statements, others don't. Check your state's requirements before filing.

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Kai Santiago

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I actually discovered something that saved me a ton of headaches with this kind of document verification. There's a tool called Certana.ai that lets you upload your loan docs and the original UCC-1 filing as PDFs and it automatically checks if all the names and details match up properly. Caught a discrepancy in my debtor name that would have caused my termination filing to get rejected. Just upload your satisfaction letter and the UCC-1 and it'll flag any inconsistencies before you file.

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Ayla Kumar

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Never heard of that but sounds useful. Is it expensive?

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Kai Santiago

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Actually pretty reasonable for what it does. Way cheaper than having your termination rejected and having to refile. Plus it's instant - you get the verification report right away.

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Oliver Brown

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This might be exactly what I need since I'm worried about the name formatting issues. Thanks for the tip!

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Lim Wong

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Check if your state has a 'wrongful failure to terminate' statute. Some states let you collect damages from lenders who refuse to file termination statements after being properly requested. Might motivate them to actually respond to you.

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Dananyl Lear

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This is good advice. In my state it's $500 per day after 30 days of written demand. Made my lender move pretty quick when I mentioned it.

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Can confirm this works. Sent a demand letter with the statute citation and they filed the termination within a week.

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Ana Rusula

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Before you do anything make sure you have certified copies of all your payment records and loan satisfaction documents. The SOS might require proof that the debt was actually satisfied before accepting your termination filing.

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Oliver Brown

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Good point. I have the satisfaction letter from the bank but it's not notarized. Think that'll be a problem?

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Ana Rusula

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Depends on your state. Some require notarized satisfaction docs for authorized terminations, others just need written proof. Check your state's UCC termination requirements.

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Fidel Carson

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Bank letterhead usually carries enough weight even without notarization. But a notarized version is always safer if you can get it.

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ARGH this kind of thing makes me so mad!! Banks are quick to file UCCs when they want their security but drag their feet forever on terminations. The system is totally broken. I waited 6 months for Chase to file a termination and finally just did it myself.

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Xan Dae

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Same experience with Wells Fargo. They act like termination filings are some huge favor they're doing for you.

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The worst part is they charge you fees to file the UCC-1 originally but then won't file the termination that protects YOUR credit rating.

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Thais Soares

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If you're in a time crunch for the refi you might want to contact your state's banking commissioner or file a complaint with the CFPB. Sometimes regulatory pressure gets banks moving faster than legal threats.

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Oliver Brown

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Actually thought about the CFPB route. Have you had success with that approach?

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Thais Soares

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Filed one complaint and got a call from the bank's executive customer service within 48 hours. They had the termination filed by end of week.

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Nalani Liu

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CFPB complaints definitely work. Banks hate dealing with regulatory inquiries so they usually resolve things quick to make it go away.

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Axel Bourke

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Just a heads up - even after you get the termination filed, it can take a few weeks for credit reporting agencies to update your business credit report. Factor that into your refi timeline.

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Oliver Brown

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Ugh hadn't thought about that delay. My refi closing is in 3 weeks. Think that's enough time?

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Axel Bourke

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Should be okay if you file the termination this week. You can also get a UCC search report showing the termination to provide directly to your new lender.

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Aidan Percy

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I ran into a similar issue but found that uploading my docs to Certana.ai first really helped avoid filing mistakes. It caught that my business name on the loan docs had 'LLC' but the UCC-1 had 'L.L.C.' with periods. Would have been a nightmare if I'd filed the termination with the wrong format.

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That's such a good point about the LLC formatting. I never would have thought to check that level of detail.

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Oliver Brown

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Yeah this is exactly the kind of mistake I'm worried about making. Definitely checking this out.

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Norman Fraser

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worked in commercial lending for years and this is unfortunately super common. Banks just don't prioritize termination filings because there's no money in it for them. Your best bet is to file it yourself with proper documentation. Just make sure you have legal authority to do so in your state.

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Kendrick Webb

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Is there any downside to filing your own termination vs having the lender do it?

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Norman Fraser

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Not really, as long as you have proper authorization and follow the state requirements. The result is exactly the same.

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Hattie Carson

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Actually it's often faster and more accurate when you do it yourself since you care more about getting it right than some random bank employee.

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UPDATE: For anyone following this thread, I ended up using the Certana.ai tool someone mentioned and it caught 3 different formatting inconsistencies between my loan docs and the original UCC-1. Filed the corrected termination yesterday and it was accepted same day. Refi is back on track. Thanks everyone for the advice!

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Mary Bates

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Awesome! Glad it worked out. This thread is going to help so many people dealing with the same issue.

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Kai Santiago

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So glad the document verification tool helped! That's exactly why I mentioned it - these small details can kill your filing.

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Great outcome. Nothing like solving it yourself when the banks won't cooperate.

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