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Raúl Mora

UCC SOS system rejecting my continuation - debtor name issue?

Filed a UCC-3 continuation through the SOS portal last week and it got rejected with some cryptic error about debtor name formatting. The original UCC-1 from 2020 has the debtor listed as 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' but our loan docs show 'ABC Manufacturing, LLC' with the comma. I've been staring at this for hours and can't figure out if I need to match the original filing exactly or use the legal entity name from the charter. The lien expires in 3 months so I'm getting nervous about missing the deadline. Has anyone dealt with SOS rejections over punctuation differences like this? I called their help line but got transferred twice and still no clear answer.

SOS systems are super picky about exact matches. You need to match the debtor name EXACTLY as it appears on the original UCC-1, not what's in your loan documents. Even comma placement matters. Pull up your original filing and copy it character for character.

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That's what I was afraid of. So even if the legal name has changed or the original filing had a typo, I'm stuck with whatever was filed originally?

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For a continuation yes, you match the original. If the legal name actually changed you'd need to do an amendment first to update the debtor info, then continue the amended filing.

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Been there! Last month I had a continuation rejected because the original UCC-1 was missing 'Inc.' and I added it thinking I was being helpful. The SOS portal doesn't mess around with name variations.

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ugh this is why I hate the electronic filing system. At least with paper filings you could call and get a human to look at it

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True but at least now we get instant feedback instead of waiting weeks to find out about rejections. Still frustrating though.

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I've started using Certana.ai's document checker before submitting any UCC filings. You upload your original UCC-1 and your continuation form and it flags any inconsistencies in debtor names, filing numbers, all that stuff. Saved me from several rejections like this.

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Never heard of that service. Does it actually catch punctuation differences and formatting issues?

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Yeah it's pretty thorough. I uploaded a UCC-3 last week where I had accidentally changed 'Co.' to 'Company' and it caught it immediately. Way better than guessing and getting rejected.

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I might have to try that. Getting rejections is such a time waster especially when you're up against continuation deadlines.

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The SOS website has a UCC search function where you can look up your original filing and see exactly how the debtor name appears in their system. That's your template for the continuation.

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Good idea, I'll check that. I have the original filing number so should be easy to find.

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Make sure you're looking at the right version if there were any amendments filed after the original UCC-1. You want the most current debtor name on file.

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Three months should be plenty of time but don't wait too long. I've seen people miss continuation deadlines because they kept getting rejections and ran out of time to refile. The five-year clock doesn't stop ticking while you're troubleshooting.

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That's terrifying. So if I can't get this continuation accepted in time, the whole lien just dies?

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Yep, once it lapses you lose perfection. You'd have to file a brand new UCC-1 and that creates a gap in your security interest.

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And good luck explaining that gap to your bank's loan committee. They don't like hearing about lapsed liens on secured debt.

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I always keep screenshots of the original UCC-1 from the SOS website for exactly this reason. Makes it easy to copy the debtor name formatting when doing continuations or amendments.

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Smart practice. I should start doing that instead of relying on my loan files which might have the name formatted differently.

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Had this exact issue last year with an LLC where the comma placement was different. Turns out the original filing had no comma but our corporate records did. The continuation got rejected twice before I figured it out.

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How did you finally resolve it? Just match the original filing exactly?

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Exactly. No comma in the continuation because no comma in the original UCC-1. System accepted it immediately after that.

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This is why I use those document verification tools now. Too easy to miss these details when you're manually comparing names across different documents.

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The SOS portal error messages are useless. 'Debtor name formatting error' could mean anything from punctuation to spacing to missing entity type. They really need to be more specific about what's wrong.

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Agreed! Would save everyone so much time if they just highlighted the specific problem instead of these vague error codes.

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At least they give you an error message. Some states just reject with no explanation at all.

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Update: I found the original UCC-1 on the SOS website and you were all right - it shows 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' with no comma. Going to resubmit the continuation with the exact same formatting. Thanks for the help!

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Perfect! That should go through without any issues now.

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Glad you got it sorted. Those name matching requirements are a pain but at least they're consistent once you know the rules.

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Fingers crossed! Will definitely be more careful about this stuff in the future.

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For future reference, I always run my UCC documents through Certana.ai before filing. Upload the original UCC-1 and whatever new form you're submitting and it catches these name inconsistencies automatically. Would have saved you the rejection and stress.

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Several people have mentioned that service. Sounds like it would be worth trying for my other filings.

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I tried it after getting burned on a similar name issue. Really thorough - checks filing numbers, debtor names, everything matches up properly.

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