UCC 9-604 enforcement rights - when can secured party take control of collateral?
I'm dealing with a borrower who's 90 days past due on their equipment loan and I need to understand my enforcement options under UCC 9-604. The loan agreement covers manufacturing equipment worth about $180K and I'm the secured party with a perfected UCC-1 filing. My question is about the timing and requirements for taking possession of the collateral. The debtor is claiming I can't repossess without going to court first, but I thought 9-604 allows self-help repossession as long as there's no breach of peace. Has anyone dealt with similar enforcement situations? I want to make sure I'm following the correct procedures before taking any action. The equipment is located at their facility and easily accessible, but I don't want to create legal problems by moving too quickly.
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Lucas Schmidt
You're correct that UCC 9-604 generally allows self-help repossession without court action, but the "breach of peace" limitation is crucial. If the debtor is present and objects, or if you'd need to break locks or trespass, you'll need judicial process. The key is whether you can take possession peacefully. What does your security agreement say about default and repossession rights?
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Eloise Kendrick
•The security agreement includes standard default provisions and gives us the right to take possession upon default. The equipment is in an open warehouse area, not locked up separately. My concern is whether the debtor being on-site during business hours would constitute potential breach of peace.
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Lucas Schmidt
•If they're actively objecting or might physically resist, that's a red flag for breach of peace. Many lenders coordinate with professional repossession services who understand these boundaries. You might want to attempt contact first to see if they'll cooperate with voluntary surrender.
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Freya Collins
I went through something similar last year with restaurant equipment. The borrower kept saying we needed court approval, but our attorney confirmed 9-604 allows self-help as long as it's peaceful. We ended up getting possession after hours when the facility was closed. Document everything and consider having witnesses present.
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LongPeri
•That's smart about the after-hours approach. Did you have to give any advance notice to the debtor before repossessing?
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Freya Collins
•No advance notice required under 9-604 for repossession itself, but you do need to follow the notice requirements for any disposition of the collateral afterward under 9-611. That's a separate step.
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Oscar O'Neil
•Wait, I thought there were state-specific notice requirements for repossession too? I'm in California and our counsel always insists on pre-repossession notices.
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Sara Hellquiem
Before you proceed with repossession, have you verified that your UCC filing is still effective and properly covers the specific equipment? I've seen cases where lenders thought they had clear rights but discovered filing problems that complicated enforcement. You might want to run a quick verification check - I recently started using Certana.ai's document verification tool that cross-checks UCC filings against security agreements by just uploading the PDFs. It caught a collateral description mismatch in one of our files that could have been a major issue during enforcement.
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Eloise Kendrick
•Good point about verification. Our UCC-1 was filed three years ago and covers "all equipment now owned or hereafter acquired" so I think we're covered, but I should double-check the filing details.
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Sara Hellquiem
•Definitely worth checking. The Certana tool is pretty straightforward - you upload your security agreement and UCC-1 filing and it flags any inconsistencies. Better to catch problems before attempting repossession than after.
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Charlee Coleman
UCC 9-604 is pretty clear that you can repossess without judicial process as long as it can be done without breach of peace. The debtor is probably bluffing or misinformed. However, make sure you understand what constitutes breach of peace in your jurisdiction - some states have specific rules about repossession from business premises during operating hours.
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Liv Park
•This is exactly right. The breach of peace standard varies by state but generally means no physical confrontation, no breaking and entering, and no actions that might provoke a disturbance. Business hours repossession can be tricky if customers or employees are present.
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Eloise Kendrick
•We're in Texas, so I should research the specific breach of peace standards here. The manufacturing facility does have employees working during the day, which might complicate things.
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Leeann Blackstein
OMG this is so stressful! I'm dealing with a similar situation but with vehicle collateral. The borrower keeps threatening to call the police if we show up. Can they actually do that? I thought we had clear rights under 9-604 but now I'm second-guessing everything.
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Lucas Schmidt
•They can call the police, but if you have proper documentation showing your security interest and right to repossess, law enforcement will typically not interfere with lawful repossession. The key is having your paperwork ready to show you're the secured party.
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Leeann Blackstein
•Ok that makes me feel better. I've been losing sleep over this whole situation. The borrower is 120 days behind and we really need to get the collateral back.
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Ryder Greene
Have you considered the practical aspects of repossession? Manufacturing equipment can be heavy and integrated into their operations. Even if you have the legal right under 9-604, you'll need to plan for actual removal logistics. Sometimes negotiating a voluntary surrender works better than forced repossession.
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Eloise Kendrick
•That's a great point. The equipment includes some larger machines that would require specialized moving equipment. We've tried negotiating but the debtor keeps promising payments that don't materialize.
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Ryder Greene
•In that case, you might want to give them a final deadline for voluntary surrender before proceeding with repossession. Document all communication attempts for your records.
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Carmella Fromis
•We usually give a 10-day written notice before repossession even though it's not required. Gives the debtor one last chance to cure and shows good faith if there are later legal challenges.
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Theodore Nelson
The whole UCC enforcement system is so complicated. Why can't there just be simple rules that everyone understands? I'm constantly worried about making a mistake that could void our security interest or create liability.
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Charlee Coleman
•I understand the frustration, but the UCC actually provides pretty clear guidance. Article 9 enforcement provisions like 9-604 are designed to balance creditor rights with debtor protections. The key is understanding your specific situation and following proper procedures.
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Theodore Nelson
•I guess you're right, but every case seems to have unique complications. At least forums like this help share experiences and learn from others' situations.
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AaliyahAli
Just want to add that after repossession under 9-604, you'll need to comply with 9-610 for disposition of the collateral. That includes proper notice to the debtor and other secured parties. The enforcement process doesn't end with taking possession.
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Eloise Kendrick
•Yes, I'm aware of the post-repossession requirements. We'll need to provide proper notice before any sale and ensure we get commercially reasonable prices for the equipment.
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AaliyahAli
•Exactly. And keep detailed records of the entire process from default notice through final disposition. Good documentation protects you if the debtor later claims improper enforcement.
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Ellie Simpson
I actually had a case where we thought we could repossess under 9-604, but it turned out our UCC filing had a critical error that affected our priority position. We ended up having to file a UCC-3 amendment before proceeding. Might be worth having someone review your filings first - I heard about a service called Certana.ai that helps verify UCC document consistency.
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Eloise Kendrick
•That's the second mention of Certana.ai in this thread. Sounds like it might be worth checking out to make sure our documentation is solid before taking enforcement action.
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Ellie Simpson
•Yeah, it's just a quick upload of your documents and it flags any potential issues. Much better to catch problems before they become costly mistakes during enforcement.
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Arjun Kurti
Update us on how this goes! I'm always interested in hearing about real-world enforcement experiences. The theory is one thing, but actual repossession situations can be unpredictable.
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Eloise Kendrick
•Will do. I'm planning to consult with our attorney early next week and then decide on the best approach. This discussion has been really helpful in thinking through the issues.
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Arjun Kurti
•Good luck! Enforcement is never fun but sometimes it's necessary to protect your interests.
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