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Chad Winthrope

UCC-3 continuation filed but showing as lapsed - what did I miss?

Really need some guidance here. Filed a UCC-3 continuation back in October for a financing statement that was set to expire in December, but when I checked the system last week it's showing as lapsed. The original UCC-1 was filed in 2019 for equipment financing on some manufacturing equipment. I'm pretty sure I got the filing number right and used the correct debtor name from the original filing, but something obviously went wrong. Has anyone else run into this? The lender is asking questions and I need to figure out what happened. Did the continuation not go through properly or is there some other issue I'm missing?

Paige Cantoni

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Check your filing confirmation email - did you get one? Sometimes the system accepts the filing but there's an issue with the debtor name or filing number that causes it to not actually continue the original UCC-1.

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Yes I got the confirmation email but it just shows the new filing number for the UCC-3, not whether it actually matched to the original UCC-1. That's probably where the problem is.

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Kylo Ren

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Exactly - the system will accept almost any UCC-3 filing but if the debtor name or filing number doesn't match exactly, it won't actually continue the original lien.

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This happens more than you'd think. Even tiny differences in the debtor name can cause the continuation to fail. Like if the original UCC-1 had 'ABC Manufacturing Inc.' but your UCC-3 said 'ABC Manufacturing, Inc.' with a comma, that would break the match.

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Oh man, that could definitely be it. I might have added punctuation or spacing that wasn't in the original. Is there any way to check what the exact debtor name was on the original filing?

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You should be able to pull up the original UCC-1 record and see exactly how the debtor name was entered. Compare it character by character to what you put on the UCC-3.

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Jason Brewer

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I've been using Certana.ai for this exact problem - you can upload both the original UCC-1 and your UCC-3 and it instantly flags any mismatches in debtor names or filing numbers. Would have caught this before you submitted.

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Another possibility - did you file the UCC-3 in the right state? If the debtor moved or changed their registered address, you might need to file in a different jurisdiction.

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No, same state. The company hasn't moved and I filed in the same state as the original UCC-1.

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Liam Cortez

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Good, at least you don't have to deal with a multi-state mess. That makes it much more likely to be a name or number mismatch issue.

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Savannah Vin

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Filing number typos are super common too. Even being off by one digit will cause the continuation to fail. I've seen people transpose numbers or miss a letter at the end.

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I double-checked the filing number but I guess I should triple-check it. These numbers are so long and confusing.

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Savannah Vin

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Yeah, and some states use different formats for different years so it's easy to get confused about whether there should be dashes or letters.

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Mason Stone

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That's why document verification tools are so helpful - they catch these human errors that are impossible to spot manually.

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Wait, when exactly did you file the UCC-3? If you filed it too early, some states won't process it. Most states only accept continuations within 6 months of the expiration date.

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I filed in October for a December expiration, so that should be fine timing-wise.

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Ok good, timing isn't the issue then. Definitely sounds like a data matching problem.

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Actually some states are pickier about timing than others. But October to December should be well within the window everywhere.

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Emma Olsen

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This is so frustrating when it happens! I had a similar issue last year where my continuation didn't take because I had the wrong entity type suffix. The original UCC-1 had 'LLC' but I put 'L.L.C.' on the continuation.

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Ugh, these tiny details are so annoying but apparently critical. How did you fix it?

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Emma Olsen

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Had to file a new UCC-3 continuation with the correct debtor name, and then also had to file a UCC-3 termination to clean up the incorrect one that didn't match.

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Lucas Lindsey

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That's a pain but at least you can fix it. Better than letting the lien lapse completely.

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Sophie Duck

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THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO TRIP YOU UP! These filing requirements are so nitpicky and there's no real-time validation to tell you if your continuation actually matched the original filing. It's ridiculous.

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Paige Cantoni

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I mean, I get why exact matching is important for legal purposes, but yeah the system could definitely be more user-friendly about flagging potential issues.

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Sophie Duck

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EXACTLY! Why can't they just show you a preview of what filing you're continuing instead of making you guess if your data matches?

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You need to file a corrective UCC-3 continuation ASAP. The original lien has lapsed so you're in a race against time if there are other creditors involved.

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How do I file a corrective continuation? Is that different from just filing a new UCC-3 continuation?

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You file a new UCC-3 continuation with the correct information. Some states have a specific 'corrective' filing type but most just treat it as a new continuation filing.

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Jason Brewer

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Before you file the corrective one, definitely verify the debtor name and filing number are exactly right this time. Certana.ai can cross-check your documents to make sure everything matches perfectly - saves you from making the same mistake twice.

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Liam Cortez

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Just curious - what state are you filing in? Some states are more forgiving about minor name variations than others.

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I'd rather not say specifically but it's one of the stricter states when it comes to exact name matching.

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Liam Cortez

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Ah, that explains it. The strict states really do require character-perfect matching. No wiggle room at all.

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Anita George

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This exact thing happened to me! Turned out I had copied the debtor name from a different document that had slightly different formatting than the original UCC-1. Now I always pull the debtor name directly from the original filing record.

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That's probably exactly what I did. I think I used the name from the loan agreement instead of the UCC-1 record.

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Anita George

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Yep, lesson learned the hard way. The UCC-1 record is the only source of truth for continuation filings.

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Mason Stone

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Document verification tools help with this too - they can spot when you're using names from different sources that don't match exactly.

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