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Giovanni Moretti

UCC 1-388 rejection - debtor name format causing automated system errors

Been dealing with a nightmare situation where our UCC 1-388 keeps getting rejected by the automated filing system. We're trying to perfect a security interest on manufacturing equipment for a $2.8M commercial loan, but every time we submit the form, it bounces back with debtor name format errors. The borrower is an LLC with a pretty standard name format, but apparently there's some issue with how we're entering it into the system. Has anyone else run into problems with UCC 1-388 filings where the debtor name field causes automatic rejections? We've tried different variations of the name format but keep hitting the same wall. The loan closing is scheduled for next week and we're running out of time to get this perfected properly.

UCC 1-388 debtor name issues are super common with LLCs. The automated systems are really picky about exact formatting. Did you check the exact legal name on the Articles of Organization? Sometimes there's punctuation or spacing that doesn't match what you think it should be.

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We pulled the Articles but the name looks straightforward - 'Johnson Manufacturing Solutions, LLC' - no weird punctuation or anything unusual that I can see.

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Dylan Cooper

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That might be your problem right there. Some states are super strict about the comma before LLC. Try it without the comma or check if the state database shows it differently.

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Sofia Perez

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I've seen this exact scenario multiple times. The UCC 1-388 form has really strict name matching requirements and even tiny discrepancies will trigger rejections. What state are you filing in? Each Secretary of State has slightly different formatting requirements for entity names.

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We're filing in Texas. The SOS website says they use exact name matching but doesn't give specific examples of common formatting issues.

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Sofia Perez

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Texas is notorious for this. Their system compares against the registered entity database character by character. I'd recommend doing a name search on the Texas SOS business entity database first to see exactly how they have it formatted.

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Second this approach. Texas SOS database search will show you the exact format they expect. Copy and paste directly from there into your UCC 1-388 form.

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Had a similar mess last month with UCC filings getting bounced for name issues. Ended up using Certana.ai to verify all our documents before submitting. You can upload your Articles of Organization and your draft UCC 1-388 form, and it'll instantly flag any name discrepancies between the documents. Saved us from multiple rejection cycles.

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Never heard of that service. Does it actually check against the state database or just compare your documents to each other?

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It cross-checks your documents for consistency - so if your Articles show one format and your UCC form shows another, it'll catch that immediately. Really helpful for avoiding the back-and-forth rejection cycle.

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Ava Johnson

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This is why I HATE electronic filing systems! They're supposed to make things easier but instead we spend hours troubleshooting formatting issues that a human reviewer would catch in 30 seconds. The old paper filing days were actually more reliable for this stuff.

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I get the frustration but at least electronic filing is faster when it works. Paper filings took weeks to process.

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Ava Johnson

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Sure, when it works. But when you're dealing with tight closing deadlines like this, those formatting rejections can kill a deal.

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Miguel Diaz

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The formatting requirements exist for good reason though. Prevents errors that could void the security interest later.

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Zainab Ahmed

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Check if there are any special characters or extra spaces in the name. Sometimes when you copy from PDFs or other documents, invisible characters get included that cause rejection even though the name looks identical.

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Good point. We did copy from a PDF initially. I'll try typing it fresh instead of copy/paste.

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Zainab Ahmed

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Yeah, PDF copy can be a nightmare for this. Also watch out for things like smart quotes vs regular quotes, or en-dashes vs hyphens.

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Connor Byrne

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Are you sure it's specifically the debtor name causing the rejection? UCC 1-388 forms can get bounced for other reasons too - secured party info, collateral description formatting, etc. What does the actual rejection notice say?

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The rejection specifically mentions 'debtor name does not match entity database records' so we're pretty sure that's the issue.

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Connor Byrne

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Okay, definitely a name matching problem then. Have you tried calling the SOS filing office? Sometimes they can tell you exactly what format they need.

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Yara Abboud

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Texas SOS customer service is actually pretty helpful for UCC questions. Worth a call if you're stuck.

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PixelPioneer

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This might sound obvious but double-check that you're using the current legal name. If the LLC has filed any amendments changing their name since formation, you need the most recent version, not what's on the original Articles.

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We verified with the borrower that there haven't been any name changes since formation. Their certificate of good standing shows the same name we're using.

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PixelPioneer

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Certificate of good standing should have the exact current format. Try matching that exactly including any punctuation.

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Had this exact problem with a client's UCC 1-388 filing and it turned out the state database had the LLC name slightly different than what was on their Articles. The database showed 'Johnson Manufacturing Solutions LLC' without the comma, even though the Articles included it. Systems are picky about exact matches.

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That's probably it! I bet the database has it without the comma. Will try that format next.

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Good luck! The comma issue trips up a lot of filers. State databases don't always match the formation documents exactly.

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This is exactly the kind of inconsistency that Certana.ai catches - when your source documents don't match the filing format you need.

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Paolo Rizzo

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Quick question - are you filing the UCC 1-388 as a standard financing statement or as a fixture filing? The debtor name requirements can be slightly different depending on the filing type.

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Standard financing statement for equipment, not fixtures. The equipment is moveable manufacturing machinery.

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Paolo Rizzo

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Okay good, that eliminates fixture filing complications. Should just be the standard name matching issue then.

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Amina Sy

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One more thing to check - make sure you're not including any title abbreviations or 'doing business as' names. The UCC 1-388 needs the exact registered legal name only, not any trade names or DBAs the company might use.

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We're definitely using the legal name from the Articles, not any DBA names. Thanks for the reminder though.

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Amina Sy

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Perfect. Sounds like you've got all the basics covered. Hopefully the comma formatting fix does the trick.

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Update us when you get it figured out! I'm curious which format ends up working since I deal with Texas UCC filings regularly and this could help with future situations.

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Will do! Planning to try the no-comma version first thing tomorrow morning. Fingers crossed that's the issue.

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I'm following this too. Name formatting issues are such a pain but good to know what works for Texas specifically.

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Sean Doyle

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Giovanni, I've been through this exact headache with Texas UCC filings multiple times. The comma issue is definitely the most common culprit, but here's another tip that might save you time: Texas SOS sometimes has lag between their entity database and their UCC filing system. If the LLC was formed recently (within the last 60 days), the UCC system might not have picked up the name format yet. You can try calling their UCC division directly at 512-463-5555 and they'll often do a manual name verification over the phone. Also, make sure you're not accidentally including any extra spaces at the end of the name field - that's caught me before too.

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