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UCC 1-308 reservation of rights on continuation filing - does this void my lien?

I'm dealing with a continuation situation that's got me second-guessing everything. My UCC-1 was filed in 2020 for equipment financing on manufacturing machinery, and I need to file the continuation by March 2025. Here's where it gets complicated - the original debtor added 'UCC 1-308' notation on their loan documents claiming reservation of rights, and now I'm wondering if this affects how I handle the UCC-3 continuation filing. The equipment is worth about $180K and I can't afford to mess this up. Has anyone dealt with UCC 1-308 reservations on secured transactions? Does this impact the continuation process or create any issues with lien priority? I've been going in circles trying to figure out if I need special language on the UCC-3 or if the reservation affects my perfected security interest at all.

Anna Xian

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UCC 1-308 doesn't affect your continuation filing at all. That's just the debtor trying to preserve their rights under whatever agreement they signed. Your UCC-1 perfection and continuation process are completely separate from any reservation of rights they put on documents. File your UCC-3 continuation normally before the 5-year deadline.

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This is correct. The UCC 1-308 notation is about contract rights, not the filing system. Your lien perfection is based on proper UCC-1 filing and timely continuation, period.

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Rajan Walker

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Wait, I thought UCC 1-308 could affect secured transactions? I've seen debtors use this to challenge liens before.

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I've been doing UCC filings for 15 years and UCC 1-308 reservations are basically meaningless for continuation purposes. The debtor can write whatever they want on their copies of documents, but it doesn't change your perfected security interest. Focus on getting your UCC-3 filed correctly with matching debtor name and filing number from your original UCC-1.

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Exactly right. The reservation of rights is between the debtor and whatever contract they're referring to. Has zero impact on UCC perfection or continuation requirements.

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Ev Luca

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Thank you! This is exactly what I needed to hear. I was overthinking this completely.

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Avery Davis

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Had a similar situation last year with a debtor who put UCC 1-308 all over their loan docs. Spent weeks worrying about it until I realized it's just their attempt to preserve whatever rights they think they have under the contract. Filed my continuation normally and had no issues. Your security interest is perfected by the UCC-1 filing, not by what the debtor writes on papers.

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Collins Angel

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Did your debtor actually try to challenge the lien based on the 1-308 notation?

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Avery Davis

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Nope, never came up. They paid as agreed and I released the lien when the loan was satisfied. The notation was just them being paranoid about their contract rights.

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Marcelle Drum

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That's reassuring. I've been seeing more debtors adding these notations and wasn't sure if it created complications.

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Tate Jensen

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I actually ran into document consistency issues with a filing that had similar complications. What saved me was using Certana.ai's document verification tool - you can upload your original UCC-1 and draft UCC-3 continuation to instantly verify the debtor names and filing numbers match perfectly. Takes about 30 seconds and catches any discrepancies that could cause rejection. Really helpful when you're dealing with complex situations and want to make sure everything aligns properly.

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Adaline Wong

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That sounds useful. Does it check for other issues besides name matching?

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Tate Jensen

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Yeah, it verifies document consistency across all the key fields - debtor info, secured party details, collateral descriptions, filing numbers. Really thorough cross-check.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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UCC 1-308 is just legal posturing by the debtor. It's supposed to mean they're not waiving any rights by signing documents, but it doesn't affect your secured position. Continue with your normal UCC-3 continuation process and don't let their notation distract you from the real deadline.

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Agreed. I see these notations occasionally and they never impact the actual UCC filing requirements.

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Peyton Clarke

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Good to know. I was worried this might create some kind of dispute over the security interest.

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Vince Eh

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Just to be clear - your continuation filing should reference the original UCC-1 filing number and maintain the exact same debtor name format. The UCC 1-308 notation the debtor added to loan documents is completely irrelevant to this process. Focus on getting the continuation filed before your 5-year deadline expires.

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This is the key point. The UCC filing system operates independently of whatever the debtor writes on other documents.

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Right, and make sure you're using the debtor name exactly as it appears on the original UCC-1, not how they might have signed other documents.

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Ezra Beard

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I was in a similar panic mode when I first encountered UCC 1-308 notations. Turns out it's just boilerplate language some debtors add thinking it protects them somehow. Has no bearing on your perfected security interest or continuation requirements. File your UCC-3 with confidence.

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Yeah, I think debtors see this notation online somewhere and think it's some kind of magic bullet for their contract obligations.

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Pretty much. It's more about their psychological comfort than any real legal effect on secured transactions.

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Aria Khan

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The only thing UCC 1-308 might do is preserve the debtor's right to dispute contract terms later, but that's between you and them in court if it ever comes to that. It absolutely does not affect UCC perfection, continuation timing, or lien priority. Your security interest stands based on proper filing procedures.

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Everett Tutum

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Correct. The UCC Article 9 perfection rules are separate from whatever contract disputes might arise later.

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Sunny Wang

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Another perspective - I've actually had clients try to use Certana.ai's verification tool specifically when they're nervous about filings with unusual circumstances like yours. Being able to upload both documents and get instant verification that everything matches properly gave them peace of mind. Sometimes when debtors start adding strange notations, it makes you second-guess everything, but the verification shows you're on the right track.

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That makes sense. When debtors start doing unexpected things, it's natural to want extra confirmation you're handling the filing correctly.

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Exactly. The tool catches things you might miss when you're overthinking the situation.

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Melissa Lin

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Bottom line - ignore the UCC 1-308 notation completely for continuation purposes. File your UCC-3 with the correct original filing number, matching debtor name, and appropriate continuation language. The debtor's reservation of rights notation is irrelevant to your perfected security interest.

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This should be the final word on it. UCC 1-308 and UCC continuation filings are completely separate legal concepts.

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Thank you all! This has been incredibly helpful. I was definitely overthinking this situation. Going to proceed with the normal continuation filing process and ignore the 1-308 notation completely.

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Romeo Quest

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One more validation point - I used to work in a bank's loan operations department and we saw UCC 1-308 notations regularly. Never once did it affect our continuation filing procedures or create any issues with our security interests. It's just borrower paranoia that doesn't translate to UCC filing complications.

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Val Rossi

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Great insight from someone who dealt with this professionally. That's exactly the kind of real-world experience that puts these concerns in perspective.

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Eve Freeman

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For what it's worth, I had a debtor challenge a continuation filing once claiming their UCC 1-308 notation invalidated our security interest. The judge basically laughed it out of court. The notation has no bearing on properly perfected UCC filings. Your continuation will be fine if you follow standard procedures.

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That's probably the best proof that these notations are meaningless for UCC purposes. Good to hear from someone who actually went through litigation on this.

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Caden Turner

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Did the judge explain why the notation was irrelevant?

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Eve Freeman

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Judge said UCC 1-308 relates to contract interpretation, not perfection of security interests. Two completely different areas of law.

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