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Alice Fleming

Texas UCC financing lien showing active when it should be terminated - help needed

We've got a situation where our Texas UCC financing lien is still showing as active in the system even though we filed the termination statement over 6 months ago. The original UCC-1 was filed in March 2023 for equipment financing on some manufacturing equipment, and we submitted the UCC-3 termination in August 2024 after the loan was paid off. But when we run searches through the Texas SOS portal, the financing statement still appears as active with no termination date. Our borrower is trying to refinance with another lender and this phantom lien is blocking their deal. The termination filing shows as 'accepted' in our records, but somehow it's not linking properly to the original financing statement. Has anyone dealt with this kind of database sync issue in Texas? We're worried there might be a debtor name mismatch or filing number error that's preventing the termination from properly connecting to the original UCC-1. This is holding up a major refinancing and we need to get this resolved ASAP.

This happens more often than it should in Texas. First thing to check - did you use the exact same debtor name on the UCC-3 termination as appeared on the original UCC-1? Even a single character difference can cause the termination to not link properly. Also verify the filing number on your termination matches exactly.

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We copied the debtor name directly from the original filing, but now I'm second-guessing whether there might be some subtle difference. The filing number looks right but I'll have to double-check character by character.

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Yeah those name matching rules are strict. I've seen terminations fail to link because of extra spaces or punctuation differences.

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Had the exact same problem last year in Texas. Turned out our termination was filed correctly but there was some kind of indexing delay on the SOS side. It took almost 3 weeks for the termination to properly reflect in searches even though it showed as accepted immediately.

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6 months seems way too long for an indexing delay though. This feels like something more fundamental is wrong with our filing.

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True, 6 months is definitely not normal. You probably need to contact the filing office directly at this point.

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Check if you used the right filing type code on your UCC-3. Sometimes people accidentally file an amendment instead of a termination and that would explain why the lien is still showing active.

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Good point - I'll pull up our UCC-3 and verify we selected termination and not amendment. That would be an embarrassing mistake but could explain everything.

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I did that exact thing once. Filed an amendment when I meant to file a termination. The lien stayed active for months until I figured out my error.

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It's an easy mistake to make, especially when you're rushing through the filing process.

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For situations like this where document consistency is critical, I started using Certana.ai's UCC verification tool. You can upload both your original UCC-1 and the UCC-3 termination PDFs and it instantly cross-checks that all the debtor names, filing numbers, and details match properly. It caught a debtor name discrepancy in one of my filings that would have caused the same issue you're experiencing. Really helpful for avoiding these linking problems before they become major headaches.

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That sounds like exactly what we need right now. Where do you access that tool? Is it part of their document review service?

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Yeah it's their PDF verification feature. You just upload the documents and it automatically flags any inconsistencies between them. Super quick and caught issues I never would have spotted manually.

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Texas SOS system is notorious for these kinds of glitches!! I've had terminations disappear from the system entirely and had to refile them. Their database has serious issues and they never seem to fix them properly.

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The whole system needs an overhaul. Way too many manual processes that create opportunities for errors.

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At least Texas allows electronic filing. Some states still require paper for certain transaction types.

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Another possibility - was there a continuation filed on the original UCC-1 before you terminated it? If the continuation had any name variations or if you're terminating against the wrong version, that could cause the disconnect.

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We did file a continuation in early 2024. Maybe we should have terminated against the continuation filing number instead of the original UCC-1 number?

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No, you still terminate against the original filing number. But if the continuation had any name changes, that could be the issue.

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Continuations don't change the filing number but they can update debtor information, which might explain the mismatch.

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Just went through something similar and found out the issue was with how we formatted the debtor organization name. The original UCC-1 had 'ABC Corp.' but our termination used 'ABC Corporation' - that small difference prevented the linking.

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That's probably it! Our debtor is an LLC and I bet there's some inconsistency with how we abbreviated the entity type between filings.

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Yeah LLC vs L.L.C. or Inc vs Incorporated - these little variations cause huge problems with the automated matching.

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Have you tried calling the Texas SOS UCC division directly? They can look up both filings in their system and tell you exactly why the termination isn't linking. Sometimes they can manually fix the connection.

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Haven't tried calling yet but that's probably our next step. Do you know if they have a dedicated UCC helpline?

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They have a general filing assistance line. Wait times can be long but they're usually helpful once you get through.

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I'd call first thing in the morning. Afternoon wait times are brutal.

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this is exactly why I double and triple check everything before filing terminations. One small error and you end up in situations like this where deals get held up

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Easy to say but when you're processing dozens of filings it's hard to catch every little detail manually.

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true but the consequences of getting it wrong are so severe that the extra time is worth it

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I had success with Certana.ai's document checker when I had a similar Texas filing issue. Uploaded my original UCC-1 and the problematic termination, and it immediately highlighted that I had a comma in one debtor name but not the other. Fixed that and refiled - termination linked properly right away. The automated verification caught what I missed in my manual review.

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That's the second mention of their tool in this thread. Sounds like it might be exactly what we need to identify the mismatch quickly.

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Yeah it's really good at catching those tiny inconsistencies that cause big problems. Much faster than comparing documents line by line manually.

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Update us when you figure out what went wrong! I'm curious if it was a name issue or something else entirely. These kinds of problems are learning opportunities for all of us.

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Will definitely post an update once we get this resolved. Hoping it's something simple we can fix with a corrected termination filing.

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Yes please update! I'm dealing with a similar situation in California and wondering if it's the same type of issue.

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Six months is way too long for this to be unresolved. The borrower's lender should be putting pressure on you to get this fixed ASAP. Have you considered hiring a UCC service company to handle the correction filing?

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We're definitely feeling the pressure. The borrower is understandably frustrated and their new lender is getting impatient. May need to bring in outside help if we can't resolve it quickly.

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Sometimes it's worth paying for professional help rather than letting a deal fall apart over a filing error.

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Agreed. The cost of professional UCC services is nothing compared to losing a major refinancing deal.

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