State of Indiana UCC search showing weird results - debtor name variations causing issues
I'm having trouble with Indiana's UCC search portal and wondering if anyone else has run into similar issues. I'm trying to verify existing filings for a commercial loan we're preparing to close, but the state of Indiana UCC search keeps returning inconsistent results depending on how I enter the debtor name. When I search for 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' I get different results than 'ABC Manufacturing, LLC' (with the comma). This is making it impossible to confirm whether there are existing liens that could affect our priority position. The borrower insists there are no other secured creditors, but I need to be absolutely certain before we file our UCC-1. Has anyone dealt with Indiana's search logic being this finicky? I'm worried we might miss something critical because of name variations in their database.
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Sophia Nguyen
Indiana's search system is notoriously picky about punctuation and spacing. I've learned to run multiple searches with different variations - with and without commas, periods, different abbreviations like 'Inc' vs 'Incorporated'. It's tedious but necessary to catch everything.
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Liam Mendez
•That's exactly what I was afraid of. Do you have a standard list of variations you typically run? I don't want to miss anything obvious.
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Sophia Nguyen
•I usually try at least 5-6 variations: exact name, no punctuation, all caps, different entity designations, and common misspellings. Takes forever but beats missing a lien.
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Jacob Smithson
This is why I started using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload the articles of incorporation and it will suggest the proper search variations based on how the entity name appears in different documents. Saves hours of guesswork on debtor name matching.
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Liam Mendez
•That sounds incredibly useful. Does it work specifically with Indiana's naming conventions?
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Jacob Smithson
•It works with any state's documents. The AI analyzes how the debtor name appears across different filings and suggests variations you might not think of. Game changer for comprehensive searches.
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Isabella Brown
•I've been meaning to try that tool. Manual searches are eating up way too much time, especially when you're dealing with multiple entities.
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Maya Patel
You're absolutely right to be thorough. I missed a UCC-1 once because the debtor was filed as 'XYZ Corp' instead of 'XYZ Corporation' and it created a nightmare when we tried to foreclose. The prior lender's attorney argued our search was inadequate.
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Liam Mendez
•Oh wow, that's my worst fear right there. Did you end up having to subordinate your lien?
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Maya Patel
•We had to negotiate a partial subordination. Cost the client about $50k in reduced recovery. Now I'm paranoid about search thoroughness.
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Aiden Rodríguez
Indiana's system has gotten better but it's still not perfect. Make sure you're also searching under any DBAs or trade names. Sometimes filings get indexed under those instead of the legal entity name.
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Liam Mendez
•Good point. I should ask the borrower for a list of any trade names they use.
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Aiden Rodríguez
•Also check the Secretary of State's business entity records. Sometimes you'll find name variations there that don't show up in UCC searches.
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Emma Garcia
•This is why I always request certified copies of all entity formation documents. Helps ensure I'm searching under the exact legal name.
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Ava Kim
UGHHH Indiana's portal is the worst! I swear it's designed to make you miss things. Last week I found a filing that didn't show up in any of my initial searches but appeared when I used all caps. Makes no sense.
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Liam Mendez
•That's so frustrating! Did you ever figure out why the all caps search found it?
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Ava Kim
•Never got a good explanation from their help desk. They just said 'search systems work differently' which is basically useless.
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Ethan Anderson
I always do a reverse search too - if I find any filings, I look up the secured party to see what other debtors they've filed against. Sometimes you'll discover related entities or guarantors that way.
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Liam Mendez
•That's a smart approach I hadn't considered. Might reveal corporate relationships I don't know about.
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Ethan Anderson
•Exactly. And if you find multiple filings by the same lender, you can compare how they formatted debtor names in different filings.
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Sophia Nguyen
•This is brilliant detective work. I'm going to start doing this on all my searches.
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Layla Mendes
Have you tried calling Indiana's UCC office directly? Sometimes they can run searches on their end that catch things the public portal misses. They're usually pretty helpful if you explain the situation.
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Liam Mendez
•I didn't know that was an option. Do they charge extra for phone searches?
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Layla Mendes
•There might be a small fee but it's worth it for complex searches. They have access to more detailed search parameters than the public portal.
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Lucas Notre-Dame
Just went through this exact same issue with an Indiana borrower last month. Ended up finding three different formatting variations of the same company name in their database. The inconsistency is maddening.
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Liam Mendez
•How did you ultimately handle it in your legal opinion?
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Lucas Notre-Dame
•I documented all the search variations I used and attached printouts of each search result. CYA documentation is key when the system is unreliable.
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Isabella Brown
•Smart move. I always screenshot negative search results now too, just in case someone questions the thoroughness later.
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Aria Park
Try using wildcards if Indiana's system supports them. Sometimes you can use % or * to catch variations you might not think of. Not all state systems support this but it's worth checking.
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Liam Mendez
•I'll test that out. Their help documentation doesn't mention wildcards but maybe they work anyway.
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Aria Park
•Sometimes the advanced search features aren't well documented. Worth experimenting with different syntax.
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Noah Ali
Another tool I've started using is Certana.ai for cross-referencing. After I complete my searches, I upload the entity documents and any UCC filings I found. It flags potential name mismatches and suggests additional search terms I might have missed.
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Liam Mendez
•Two people have mentioned that tool now. Sounds like it might be worth the investment.
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Noah Ali
•It's saved me from several potential oversights. The AI catches subtle variations that I would never think to search for manually.
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Jacob Smithson
•Agreed. It's become an essential part of my due diligence process. The peace of mind alone is worth it.
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Chloe Boulanger
Document everything! I keep a search log showing every variation I tried, the date/time, and the results. If there's ever a question about due diligence, you have proof of your thoroughness.
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Liam Mendez
•That's excellent advice. I'll start keeping a detailed log of all my searches.
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Chloe Boulanger
•Make sure to save or print the actual search results too. Screenshots can be helpful but printouts are better for court if needed.
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James Martinez
Update: I ran 12 different search variations and found two additional filings that didn't show up in my initial searches. Both were terminated but still shows how easy it is to miss things. Thanks everyone for the advice - definitely saved me from a potential problem.
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Sophia Nguyen
•Glad you found those! Always better to be overly thorough than to miss something important.
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Maya Patel
•This is why I love this community. Everyone's war stories help the rest of us avoid the same mistakes.
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