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Sofia Peña

Florida UCC Database Search Showing Wrong Debtor Names - Filing Verification Issues

Running into major headaches with the Florida UCC database search results. We've been doing routine lien searches for equipment financing deals and keep finding discrepancies between what shows up in the database versus what's actually on file. Last week alone we caught three cases where the debtor name in the search results didn't match the actual UCC-1 forms when we pulled the documents. Most concerning was a $450K equipment loan where the database showed "ABC Manufacturing LLC" but the actual filing had "ABC Manufacturing, LLC" with the comma. According to our compliance team, that kind of name variation could create perfection issues down the road. We're now having to manually verify every single search result by pulling the actual documents, which is eating up tons of time. Anyone else seeing this with Florida's system? Is there a better way to verify that search results actually match the filed documents without having to download everything individually? Our loan officers are getting frustrated with the extra verification steps but we can't risk missing name discrepancies that could impact our security interests.

Yeah Florida's database has always been quirky with exact name matching. The search algorithm seems pretty loose compared to other states. Are you doing exact name searches or broader searches?

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We've been doing both but the exact searches are missing stuff and the broad searches return too much noise. It's like we can't win either way.

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Try searching with and without punctuation marks. Florida's system treats commas and periods inconsistently in my experience.

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This is exactly why we started using document verification tools. Manual checking was killing our efficiency. Have you looked into automated solutions for cross-checking search results against actual filings?

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What kind of automated solutions? We're open to anything that can speed up the verification process.

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We've had good luck with Certana.ai's UCC document checker. You just upload the PDFs from your database downloads and it automatically verifies that debtor names match between different documents. Caught several name inconsistencies we would have missed manually.

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How accurate is the automated checking? I'm always worried about false positives with these tools.

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Florida Secretary of State updated their search engine about 6 months ago and it definitely introduced some bugs. The indexing seems off especially for entity names with punctuation.

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That explains so much! We noticed the issues started around spring this year.

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Exactly. I've been documenting the problems and sending reports to their IT department but responses are slow.

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OMG this is happening to us too!! I thought I was going crazy. We had a continuation filing get rejected because the debtor name on our UCC-3 didn't exactly match what was in the database even though we copied it directly from the search results. Turns out the original UCC-1 had different punctuation than what showed up in search.

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That's exactly what we're worried about. Rejections due to name mismatches are a nightmare when you're working against lapse deadlines.

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Had to pull the original filing and refile the continuation with the correct name. Cost us extra filing fees and stress.

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This is why I always download the original UCC-1 before filing any amendments or continuations. Never trust the search display.

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Been dealing with Florida UCC filings for 15 years and this is definitely a recent problem. The old search system wasn't perfect but at least it was consistent. Now it's like they're using fuzzy matching that doesn't actually show you what's on the real documents.

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Do you think they'll fix it or should we just adapt our processes to work around it?

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I'd adapt your processes. Government IT updates move slowly. Better to have reliable internal verification than wait for them to fix their database.

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We switched to always downloading the actual UCC documents for verification after getting burned on a termination filing. The database showed one version of the debtor name but the actual UCC-1 had slight differences. Termination got rejected and we had to refile.

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How do you efficiently verify large batches of filings? We sometimes need to check 20-30 search results at once.

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That's where automated tools help. We upload all the PDFs to Certana.ai and it flags any name mismatches between the search results and actual documents. Saves hours of manual comparison.

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Never heard of that tool but sounds useful. Is it expensive?

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The Florida database issues are widespread. I work for a title company and we've had to implement double-checking protocols for all UCC searches. The display names often don't match the actual filing documents.

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What's your double-checking protocol look like? We're trying to standardize our process.

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We download search results, then download actual UCC documents, then compare debtor names character by character. Time consuming but necessary.

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This thread is so validating! We've been pulling our hair out trying to figure out why our UCC-3 amendments keep getting rejected for name mismatches when we're copying directly from the database search.

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You're definitely not alone. Seems like a systemic issue with how Florida indexes the filings versus how they display search results.

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Have you found any patterns in what types of name differences cause the most problems?

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Punctuation seems to be the biggest issue - commas, periods, apostrophes. Also spacing differences around 'LLC' and 'Inc'.

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Had a lender almost lose their security interest because of this exact issue. Florida database showed one version of debtor name but actual UCC-1 had different punctuation. Continuation filing based on database search got rejected and almost lapsed.

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That's terrifying. Did they manage to get it corrected before the lapse date?

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Yeah but just barely. Had to overnight file with expedited processing after catching the error. Could have been a disaster.

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For what it's worth, we've started using Certana.ai's document verification specifically for Florida filings after too many name mismatch problems. Upload your database search PDFs and your actual UCC documents and it highlights any inconsistencies automatically. Has saved us from several potential filing rejections.

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How long does the verification process take? We need something that won't slow down our closing timelines.

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Pretty much instant once you upload the documents. Much faster than manual comparison and catches things human eyes miss.

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That sounds like exactly what we need. Thanks for the recommendation - going to check it out.

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