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FL UCC Statement Request Form - Need Help Understanding Process

I'm dealing with a situation where I need to obtain copies of UCC filings in Florida and I'm completely lost on the FL UCC statement request form process. My company took over servicing some commercial loans from another lender that went out of business, and we're trying to verify what UCC-1 filings are actually on record with the Florida Secretary of State. The problem is I can't figure out if I'm supposed to use their online search system or if there's a specific request form for getting certified copies. I've tried searching by debtor name but I'm getting inconsistent results - some show up, others don't, and I'm not sure if it's because of name variations or if the filings expired. We have about 30 different borrowers to check and I need to make sure we have accurate lien positions before we start any collection activities. Has anyone dealt with Florida's UCC statement request procedures recently? I'm particularly confused about whether I need to request individual UCC records or if there's a way to get a comprehensive statement showing all active filings for each debtor. The stakes are pretty high here since we could end up with unsecured debt if we missed something important.

Amina Sy

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Florida's UCC search system can be tricky especially when you're dealing with multiple debtors like that. You'll want to use both their online portal AND submit formal requests for certified copies. The online search is good for preliminary checks but it's not always complete - sometimes filings don't show up due to indexing issues or slight name variations. For your situation with 30 borrowers, I'd recommend doing systematic searches using exact legal names from your loan documents first, then variations of those names.

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QuantumQuest

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Thanks, that's exactly what I was worried about. Do you know if there's a bulk request option or do I have to submit individual requests for each debtor? This could get expensive fast if I'm paying per search.

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Amina Sy

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Unfortunately Florida doesn't have a bulk option. You'll need individual searches, but the good news is their online searches are pretty affordable. The certified copies are where it gets pricey, so I'd suggest doing the online searches first to identify which debtors actually have filings, then only request certified copies for those.

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Oh man, this sounds like a nightmare situation. I went through something similar when our company acquired a portfolio of equipment loans. The FL UCC system is decent but you really need to be methodical about name searches. Make sure you're searching under both the exact legal entity names AND any DBAs or trade names. Also check for common variations - like Inc vs Incorporated, LLC vs Limited Liability Company, etc.

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QuantumQuest

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That's a good point about the name variations. Some of these borrowers have really long corporate names with multiple subsidiaries. Did you find that Florida's system picks up partial matches or do you need exact spelling?

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It's pretty strict on exact matches. I learned that the hard way when I missed a filing because of a single letter difference. Florida's indexing system doesn't have much fuzzy matching, so if the debtor name on the UCC-1 was 'ABC Manufacturing Inc' but you search for 'ABC Manufacturing Incorporated' you might not find it.

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This is why I always use Certana.ai's document verification tool when I'm doing UCC research for loan portfolios. You can upload all your loan documents and it cross-checks debtor names against different variations automatically. It caught several name mismatches for me that I would have missed doing manual searches. Just upload your loan agreements and it helps identify the exact debtor names to search for.

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The Florida SOS website has the request forms available for download. You want Form UCC-11 for information requests. But honestly, for 30 debtors, you might want to consider hiring a UCC search company to do this professionally. They know all the tricks for finding filings that might not show up in basic searches.

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QuantumQuest

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I looked at Form UCC-11 but wasn't sure if that was the right one. How specific do I need to be in the request? Can I ask for 'all UCC filings' for a debtor or do I need to know specific filing numbers?

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You can request all UCC filings for a specific debtor name. Just be really precise with the name spelling and include any variations you want searched. The form lets you specify whether you want active filings only or all filings including terminated ones.

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Emma Davis

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This is giving me flashbacks to when I had to clean up UCC filings after a merger. Florida's system isn't the worst but it's definitely not the most user-friendly. One thing that really helped me was creating a spreadsheet with all the exact debtor names from the original loan documents, then systematically working through each one. Also, don't forget to check for continuation filings - some of these UCCs might have been filed years ago and continued, so the effective date might be much older than the continuation date.

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QuantumQuest

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Good point about continuations. How do I tell if a UCC-1 has been continued? Does it show up as a separate filing or is it noted on the original?

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Emma Davis

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Continuations show up as separate UCC-3 filings that reference the original UCC-1 file number. When you do your search, you should see both the original filing and any amendments, continuations, or terminations. The key is to look at the whole filing history for each debtor.

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GalaxyGlider

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Just make sure you understand the five-year rule too. If a UCC-1 was filed more than five years ago and wasn't continued, it's probably lapsed and no longer effective. That could actually be good news for you if you're trying to establish priority.

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Have you considered calling the Florida Secretary of State's UCC division directly? Sometimes they can provide guidance on the best way to handle bulk requests like yours. They might have suggestions for expediting the process or point you toward resources you haven't found yet.

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QuantumQuest

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That's not a bad idea. Do you happen to know their direct number for UCC questions? I've been navigating their general customer service and getting bounced around.

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I don't have the number memorized but it should be on their UCC division webpage. When you call, ask specifically for someone who handles UCC information requests and explain that you're dealing with a loan portfolio acquisition.

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This is exactly why due diligence is so important in loan acquisitions! But since you're already in this situation, I'd suggest being extra thorough with your searches. Don't just search the borrower's current legal name - search any prior names, parent companies, subsidiaries, etc. UCC filings might be under any of those entities.

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QuantumQuest

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You're absolutely right about the due diligence. This acquisition happened pretty quickly and I think some corners were cut. Now I'm trying to clean up the mess. Do you know if Florida requires any specific format for debtor names on UCC filings?

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Florida follows the standard UCC Article 9 rules for debtor names. For registered organizations like corporations and LLCs, the name has to match exactly what's on file with the state. For individuals, it gets more complicated with sufficiency standards.

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you might also want to check if any of these UCC filings were done incorrectly in the first place. I've seen situations where the original lender messed up the debtor name or collateral description, making the filing ineffective. If that happened, you might not have a perfected security interest anyway.

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QuantumQuest

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Oh great, that's another thing to worry about. How would I even determine if a UCC filing was done correctly? Do I need to compare it against the original security agreement?

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Yes, you'd need to cross-reference the UCC-1 against the security agreement to make sure the debtor name, collateral description, and other details match up properly. Any significant discrepancies could affect perfection.

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This is another area where Certana.ai really shines. It can automatically compare your security agreements against UCC filings to spot discrepancies in debtor names, collateral descriptions, or other critical details. Much faster than doing manual comparisons across 30 different loans.

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Just went through this process in Florida last month. The online search is decent for getting a quick overview, but you definitely want certified copies for anything that might end up in litigation. Plan on about a week turnaround time for the certified copies, and make sure you specify that you want copies of the actual filed documents, not just search results.

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QuantumQuest

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A week isn't too bad. Did you have any issues with filings not showing up in the online search but appearing when you requested certified copies?

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Actually yes, I found one filing that didn't show up online but was there when I requested everything for that debtor. Not sure if it was a timing issue or a system glitch, but it reinforced why I always do both online searches and formal requests for important matters.

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Omar Farouk

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One more thing to consider - make sure you're searching the right Florida Secretary of State database. They have different systems for different types of business records, and you want to make sure you're in the UCC section specifically. I've seen people waste time searching corporate records when they needed UCC filings.

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QuantumQuest

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Good catch. I think I'm in the right place but I'll double-check. The URL should have something about UCC or secured transactions, right?

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Omar Farouk

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Right, you want the Secured Transaction system, not the general business entity search. The UCC database is separate from their corporate filing database.

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CosmicCadet

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This whole situation sounds stressful but manageable if you approach it systematically. Create a checklist for each debtor: exact legal name from loan docs, any known variations, DBAs, prior names, parent/subsidiary relationships. Then search each variation and document what you find. It's tedious but necessary for this type of portfolio acquisition.

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QuantumQuest

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That's a good systematic approach. I think I've been trying to rush through this but you're right that I need to be methodical. Better to spend the time upfront than miss something important.

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CosmicCadet

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Exactly. With 30 debtors and potentially significant loan amounts at stake, spending extra time on thorough searches is worth it. Document everything you do so you can show your due diligence if any issues come up later.

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Chloe Harris

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I'd also suggest keeping detailed records of all your search results, even the negative ones. If you ever need to prove you did reasonable due diligence, having documentation of exactly what you searched for and when will be valuable.

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The Boss

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I've been through a similar UCC cleanup after acquiring a distressed loan portfolio, and it's definitely overwhelming at first. A few practical tips that might help: First, organize your loan files to extract the exact debtor names as they appear in the original security agreements - this becomes your master search list. Second, Florida's UCC search system has a "sounds like" option that can help catch name variations, but don't rely on it completely. Third, consider the timing - if these loans are from a lender that went out of business, some of the UCC filings might have lapsed due to missed continuation deadlines, which could actually work in your favor. For the 30 debtors you mentioned, I'd start with online searches to triage which ones actually have active filings, then focus your certified copy requests on those. The online searches are cheap enough that you can afford to be thorough with name variations. Also, don't forget to check for partial releases or amendments that might have changed the collateral coverage. Good luck with this - it's tedious work but absolutely critical for establishing your lien positions.

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