Confused About UCC Proceeds Definition - Equipment Loan Setup
Working on a UCC-1 for equipment financing and the collateral description mentions 'proceeds' but I'm not entirely clear on what this covers. The debtor is purchasing manufacturing equipment worth $180k and we want to make sure we're capturing everything properly. The loan agreement references 'all proceeds, products, and substitutions' but I need to verify we're defining proceeds correctly in our filing. Is this just cash from equipment sales or does it include insurance payouts, rental income if they lease the equipment, and warranty claims? Our attorney drafted the security agreement but I want to double-check the UCC filing captures the proceeds definition accurately before we submit. Anyone dealt with similar equipment financing where proceeds became an issue later?
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Ahooker-Equator
Proceeds under UCC Article 9 is broader than just sale proceeds. It includes whatever you receive when collateral is sold, leased, licensed, exchanged, or otherwise disposed of. So yes, that would cover insurance payouts, rental income from leasing the equipment, and even warranty claim settlements. The key is that it has to be 'identifiable' proceeds traceable back to your original collateral.
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Anderson Prospero
•This is exactly right. I've seen lenders miss out on proceeds because they thought it was just direct sale money. Insurance payouts especially can be substantial with manufacturing equipment.
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Tyrone Hill
•Good point about traceability. That's where things get complicated when proceeds get mixed with other funds.
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Toot-n-Mighty
Just went through this exact scenario last month with a $200k packaging equipment deal. The proceeds language saved us when the debtor's insurance company cut a check for equipment damage. Without that proceeds definition, we would have had to fight for those funds. Make sure your UCC-1 collateral description specifically mentions proceeds - don't assume it's automatically covered.
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Lena Kowalski
•Did you have any issues with the insurance company recognizing your security interest in the proceeds? I'm worried about having to deal with that later.
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Toot-n-Mighty
•Actually no issues because our UCC filing was solid and we had proper loss payee endorsements on the insurance policy. The key is coordination between your UCC filing and the insurance documentation.
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DeShawn Washington
•That's smart planning. Too many deals fall apart because nobody thought about the insurance angle until it was too late.
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Mei-Ling Chen
I've been using Certana.ai's document verification tool for exactly this type of issue. You can upload your security agreement and UCC-1 draft to check if the proceeds language is consistent between documents. It caught a discrepancy in my last filing where the security agreement had broader proceeds language than what we put in the UCC-1. Saved us from having to file an amendment later.
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Sofía Rodríguez
•Never heard of that tool but sounds useful. How does it work exactly?
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Mei-Ling Chen
•Just upload PDFs of both documents and it analyzes the language for consistency. Really simple to use and catches things you might miss when comparing documents manually.
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Aiden O'Connor
•That actually sounds pretty helpful. I'm always paranoid about missing something between the loan docs and the UCC filing.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
Don't forget about 'products' too - that's different from proceeds. Products are things produced from your collateral, like goods manufactured using your equipment. If this equipment is going to be used to manufacture products for sale, you might want products coverage too.
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Jamal Brown
•Good distinction. I always get confused between proceeds, products, and accessions. They're all related but legally different concepts.
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Fatima Al-Rashid
•Products is underutilized IMO. If you're financing manufacturing equipment, the products clause can be huge if the debtor defaults and you need to liquidate inventory they made with your equipment.
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Giovanni Rossi
Cash proceeds vs non-cash proceeds is another wrinkle. Cash proceeds get special treatment under the UCC - they're automatically perfected for 20 days even if you don't file specifically on them. But non-cash proceeds like accounts receivable from equipment sales need to be perfected separately unless you have a broad filing.
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Aaliyah Jackson
•Wait, so if they sell the equipment and deposit the check, I'm automatically perfected in that bank account for 20 days?
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Giovanni Rossi
•Exactly, but only for 20 days. After that, you need to have filed on the deposit account as original collateral or qualify for some other perfection method.
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KylieRose
•This is why I always file on 'deposit accounts' as original collateral in equipment deals. Covers you for when the proceeds hit their operating account.
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Miguel Hernández
Had a disaster with proceeds definition 2 years ago. Equipment got damaged, insurance paid out, debtor used the money for something else, and we couldn't trace it because our proceeds language was too narrow. Learned my lesson - always go broad on proceeds in the UCC-1.
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Sasha Ivanov
•Ouch, that's painful. How much did you lose on that deal?
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Miguel Hernández
•About $45k that we couldn't recover. Could have been avoided with better proceeds language in the original filing.
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Liam Murphy
•This is exactly why I'm being so careful with this filing. Don't want to learn this lesson the hard way.
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Amara Okafor
For equipment financing I always use language like 'all proceeds, products, offspring, rents, and profits of the foregoing.' Covers basically everything that can come from the original collateral. Some people think it's overkill but better safe than sorry.
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CaptainAwesome
•Offspring? That seems weird for equipment.
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Amara Okafor
•It's standard boilerplate language. Doesn't hurt to have it even if it doesn't apply to your specific collateral type.
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Yuki Tanaka
•I've seen that exact language in template forms. Probably came from livestock financing originally but it's harmless in equipment deals.
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Esmeralda Gómez
Check your state's UCC provisions too. Some states have specific rules about proceeds that might affect your filing. Most follow the uniform code but there can be variations.
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Klaus Schmidt
•Good point. Delaware has some quirky rules about proceeds perfection that caught me off guard once.
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Aisha Patel
•Always worth checking the local variations. The uniform code isn't actually uniform everywhere.
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LilMama23
One more thing to consider - if the equipment generates accounts receivable (like if they lease it out), those A/R would be proceeds of your equipment collateral. But you need to make sure your UCC-1 covers accounts receivable or you might have perfection issues.
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Dmitri Volkov
•This is getting complicated. So I need to file on the equipment AND accounts receivable to be fully protected?
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Gabrielle Dubois
•Not necessarily. If your collateral description includes 'proceeds' then you should be covered for A/R that are proceeds of the equipment. But including accounts as original collateral doesn't hurt.
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Tyrone Johnson
•I usually just file on 'all assets' for equipment deals to avoid these complications. Easier and more comprehensive.
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Ingrid Larsson
Thanks everyone, this has been really helpful. I'm going to revise our collateral description to be more specific about proceeds and maybe run it through that document checking tool someone mentioned. Better to get it right the first time than file an amendment later.
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Carlos Mendoza
•Smart approach. UCC amendments are a pain and you don't want to miss your perfection window.
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Zainab Mahmoud
•Good luck with the filing. Equipment deals can be tricky but you're asking the right questions.
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Ava Williams
•Let us know how the document check goes. Always interested in new tools that can help avoid filing mistakes.
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NeonNebula
Great discussion here - I'm dealing with a similar equipment financing situation and this thread has been incredibly educational. One thing I'd add is to also consider what happens if the debtor trades in the equipment for newer models. That trade-in value would be proceeds too, but the new equipment they acquire might need separate perfection unless your security agreement and UCC filing are broad enough to cover "substitutions and replacements." I learned this when a client upgraded their machinery and we almost lost our security interest in the replacement equipment. Worth thinking about given how quickly manufacturing equipment becomes obsolete these days.
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