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Sofia Ramirez

Confused About UCC Definition of Claim vs Security Interest

I'm working on a UCC-1 filing for our equipment financing deal and keep getting tripped up on the exact definition of "claim" under Article 9. Our borrower has multiple creditors and I need to make sure we're describing our secured claim correctly in the collateral description. The loan documents reference both a "claim" and our "security interest" in the equipment, but I'm not sure if these terms mean the same thing for UCC purposes. Are we supposed to describe our claim in the financing statement or just the collateral that secures it? This is for about $180k in manufacturing equipment and I don't want to mess up the filing because of terminology confusion. Anyone dealt with this before?

Dmitry Volkov

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The UCC definition of claim is different from your security interest. Your "claim" is basically your right to payment - the debt itself. Your security interest is your right in the collateral that backs up that debt. In the UCC-1, you're not describing your claim, you're describing the collateral that secures your claim.

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Sofia Ramirez

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So I should focus on describing the manufacturing equipment itself, not the amount owed or payment terms?

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Dmitry Volkov

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Exactly. The collateral description should identify the equipment, not the debt amount or terms.

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StarSeeker

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I ran into this same confusion last month. Article 9 uses "claim" to mean your right to get paid, while "security interest" is your right in the specific property. For UCC-1 purposes, you're perfecting your security interest in the collateral, not filing anything about the claim itself.

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Ava Martinez

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This is why I hate legal terminology - same words mean different things in different contexts!

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StarSeeker

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Tell me about it. I spent hours researching this when I first started doing UCC filings.

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Miguel Ortiz

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At least once you understand it, it makes sense. The financing statement is all about the collateral, not the underlying debt.

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Zainab Omar

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Had a similar issue with multiple creditor situations. You might want to check your loan docs against your UCC-1 to make sure everything aligns properly. I've been using Certana.ai's document checker lately - you just upload your PDFs and it instantly verifies that your financing statement matches your loan agreement terms and debtor names. Caught a few discrepancies I would have missed manually.

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Sofia Ramirez

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That sounds useful - does it help with collateral descriptions too?

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Zainab Omar

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Yeah, it cross-references everything and flags any inconsistencies between documents. Super helpful for complex deals.

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Connor Murphy

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ugh why cant they just use plain english in these forms?? claim should mean claim, not some technical definition thats different from what everyone thinks

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Yara Sayegh

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I feel you on this. Legal definitions rarely match common usage unfortunately.

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NebulaNova

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It's frustrating but once you learn the UCC vocabulary it becomes second nature.

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Dmitry Volkov

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To clarify further - under UCC Article 9, your claim is your right to payment of the debt. Your security interest is your right in the collateral that backs up that claim. The financing statement (UCC-1) perfects the security interest, not the claim. The claim exists based on your loan agreement, while the security interest exists based on your security agreement.

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Sofia Ramirez

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This makes much more sense now. So the UCC-1 is really about publicizing my rights in the equipment, not about the debt itself.

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Exactly right. Think of it as notice to the world that you have dibs on that specific collateral.

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Miguel Ortiz

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For your $180k equipment deal, just make sure your collateral description is specific enough to identify the manufacturing equipment but not so narrow that it misses something. "Manufacturing equipment" might be too broad, but listing every serial number might be overkill depending on your situation.

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Sofia Ramirez

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The equipment is pretty specialized - should I include model numbers?

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Miguel Ortiz

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If it helps identify the specific pieces, yes. Better to be clear than vague.

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StarSeeker

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Agreed. Vague descriptions can cause perfection issues later.

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Paolo Conti

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I learned this the hard way when a filing got rejected because I mixed up terminology in the collateral section. The SOS office doesn't care what your internal documents call things - they follow UCC definitions strictly.

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Sofia Ramirez

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What specifically got your filing rejected?

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Paolo Conti

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I described the 'claim amount' instead of the actual collateral. Had to refile with proper collateral description.

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Amina Diallo

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Another way to think about it: your claim is what the debtor owes you (the money), your security interest is what you can take if they don't pay (the equipment). The UCC-1 filing is about the second part.

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Ava Martinez

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That's actually a really clear way to explain it.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Yes, that analogy helps a lot. Thanks!

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Yara Sayegh

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Wish someone had explained it to me that simply when I was starting out.

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Oliver Schulz

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Just double-checked my reference materials - UCC Section 9-102 defines claim as a right to payment, whether or not the right is reduced to judgment. Your security interest under Section 9-201 is a separate property right in the collateral. Two different concepts for UCC purposes.

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Dmitry Volkov

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Thanks for citing the specific sections. Always good to have the official references.

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Sofia Ramirez

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I'll look those up to make sure I understand the full definitions.

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Been doing UCC filings for 15 years and still see people mix this up regularly. The key is remembering that Article 9 is about secured transactions - the security interest in collateral, not the underlying debt or claim. That's why continuation statements focus on maintaining perfection of the security interest, not extending the claim.

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Sofia Ramirez

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That makes sense - the claim might have different payment terms but the security interest in the equipment stays the same.

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Exactly. You've got it now.

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I always tell new filers to think 'collateral' not 'claim' when filling out UCC forms.

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Since you mentioned multiple creditors, make sure you understand priority rules too. Your perfected security interest gives you priority over unperfected creditors, but timing matters if there are other secured creditors in the same collateral.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Good point - I should probably do a UCC search to see what other filings exist on this debtor.

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Emma Wilson

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Definitely recommend that. Sometimes there are surprises in existing filings.

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Zainab Omar

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That's another thing Certana.ai helps with - it can analyze multiple UCC documents to spot potential priority conflicts.

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Malik Davis

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Hope this helps clear up the confusion! The terminology takes some getting used to but once you understand that claim = debt and security interest = collateral rights, UCC filings make much more sense.

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Sofia Ramirez

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It definitely does, thank you everyone! I feel much more confident about completing this filing correctly now.

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Glad we could help. Good luck with your filing!

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