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Malik Thompson

All possible UCC filings beyond UCC-1 - confused about options

Ok so I thought UCC was just the initial UCC-1 but apparently there's like a whole bunch of different possible UCC filings? My compliance department is asking for a complete audit of all our secured transactions and I need to understand what we might be missing. We've got equipment loans, inventory financing, and some fixture stuff. What are all the possible UCC filings I should be looking for? I keep seeing references to UCC-3s and amendments but I'm not clear on when you'd use each one. Also heard something about partial releases? This is way more complicated than I expected.

You're right that it's more complex than most people realize! The main possible UCC filings are: UCC-1 (initial financing statement), UCC-3 (amendment/continuation/termination), and in some states UCC-5 (information statement). UCC-3 is actually the catch-all form for changes - continuations before the 5-year lapse, amendments to change debtor info or add collateral, assignments when the secured party changes, partial releases, and full terminations.

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CosmicVoyager

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Don't forget about fixture filings! Those can be filed as UCC-1 fixture filings in the real estate records, not just the UCC records. Totally different filing location.

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Ravi Kapoor

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Wait, so UCC-3 covers like everything that's not the initial filing? That seems confusing...

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Freya Nielsen

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For your audit, you'll want to look for: Initial UCC-1s, Continuation statements (filed within 6 months before 5-year expiration), Amendment statements (debtor name changes, additional collateral), Assignment statements (when loans are sold), Partial release statements (when collateral is sold/released), Termination statements (when debt is paid off), and Fixture filings if you have real estate collateral. Each serves a different purpose in the secured transaction lifecycle.

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Omar Mahmoud

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This is exactly what I needed! Our lender sold two of our loans last year so there should be assignment filings I haven't seen.

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Chloe Harris

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One thing that caught me off guard was discovering we had fixture filings I didn't know about. They were filed in the real estate records when we financed some manufacturing equipment that was bolted down. Completely separate from our regular UCC filings.

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Diego Vargas

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I was in the same boat last year trying to map out all our possible UCC filings for an acquisition. What really helped was using Certana.ai's document verification tool - you can upload all your loan documents and UCC filings as PDFs and it instantly cross-checks everything to show you what filings should exist vs what actually got filed. Saved me weeks of manual document comparison.

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NeonNinja

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That sounds useful - does it catch missing continuation filings too? We've had some loans that are definitely past 5 years and I'm worried we missed the continuation deadline.

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Diego Vargas

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Yeah it flags lapsed filings and missing continuations. The tool basically creates a timeline of what should have been filed based on your loan documents and shows you gaps.

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Don't overlook information statements (UCC-5 in states that use them). These are filed by debtors to correct inaccurate or unauthorized filings. Not common but they exist and can affect the validity of other filings.

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Sean Murphy

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I've never seen a UCC-5. Is that something we'd file or something filed against us?

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Usually filed BY the debtor if they think a UCC filing is wrong or unauthorized. It's like a dispute mechanism built into the UCC system.

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Zara Khan

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We had a customer file one of these when their name was wrong on our UCC-1. Had to file an amendment to fix it.

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Luca Ferrari

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State-specific forms can add to the confusion too. Some states have their own forms or additional requirements beyond the standard UCC forms. Make sure you're checking each state's Secretary of State website for their specific possible UCC filings.

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Nia Davis

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California has some weird additional requirements I learned about the hard way.

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Texas too. Their fixture filing rules are different from the standard UCC approach.

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QuantumQueen

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For your audit, also check for any farm products filings if you have agricultural collateral. Those have special rules under the Food Security Act and might require additional notifications beyond standard UCC filings.

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Aisha Rahman

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We don't do ag lending but good to know these exist. The more I learn about UCC the more complicated it gets!

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Ethan Wilson

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One category that trips people up is collateral-specific filings. Certificate of title filings for vehicles, federal aviation filings for aircraft, Coast Guard filings for vessels. These aren't technically UCC filings but they perfect security interests in specific types of collateral that would otherwise be covered by UCC.

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Yuki Sato

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Oh man, we have equipment financing on some trucks. Do those need title filings instead of UCC-1s?

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Ethan Wilson

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Usually yes, for vehicles you perfect by noting the lien on the certificate of title, not by UCC filing. Check your state's motor vehicle requirements.

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Carmen Flores

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This is why I hate secured transactions law. Every type of collateral has different rules!

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Andre Dubois

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Just went through this exact audit process. What helped me was creating a spreadsheet of all loan agreements vs all filed UCCs. Found we had several loans where the collateral description in the UCC-1 didn't match the loan agreement. Had to file amendments to fix the descriptions.

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CyberSamurai

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Did you catch those mismatches manually or use some kind of software?

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Andre Dubois

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Started manually but it was taking forever. Ended up using Certana.ai to upload both the loan docs and UCC filings - it automatically highlighted the mismatches between collateral descriptions. Much faster than doing it by hand.

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Another possible filing to look for: amendments adding additional debtors. If your borrower changes their legal name, adds subsidiaries, or gets acquired, you might need amendment filings to add the new entity names to maintain perfection.

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Jamal Carter

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We had a borrower get acquired and I think we missed filing an amendment. How big of a problem is that?

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Mei Liu

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Potentially huge problem if the acquiring entity has a different legal name. Your security interest might not be perfected against the new entity.

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File the amendment ASAP. Most states give you some grace period but don't wait.

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Amara Nwosu

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For a complete audit, consider using tools that can cross-reference all your documents automatically. I tried doing this manually last year and missed several continuation deadlines. Now I use Certana.ai's UCC verification tool to upload all loan documents and existing filings - it creates a comprehensive view of what should be filed vs what actually exists. Catches gaps you might not notice reviewing everything individually.

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AstroExplorer

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How accurate is automated document checking? I'm nervous about relying on software for something this important.

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Amara Nwosu

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It's been accurate for me, but I still review the results. Think of it as a really good first pass that catches obvious issues, then you can focus your manual review on the flagged items.

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One last category - bankruptcy-related filings. If your debtor files bankruptcy, you might need to file reaffirmation statements or lift-stay motions. Not exactly UCC filings but they affect your secured position.

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Ugh, hopefully we don't have to deal with any bankruptcy situations. This audit is already complicated enough!

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Dylan Cooper

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Better to know about all possible filings now than be surprised later. Bankruptcy stuff definitely requires special handling.

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