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Jamal Brown

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Another option is to file an amendment after you get clarity on the correct name format. Tennessee allows UCC-3 amendments to correct debtor information if needed.

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Mei Zhang

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True but amendments can be tricky timing-wise. Better to get it right the first time if possible.

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Plus you're not fully perfected until the amendment is filed and accepted, which creates a gap in coverage.

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Update - I ended up using Certana to verify the name consistency and it confirmed the charter name was the way to go. Filed the UCC-1 with 'ABC Manufacturing Solutions, LLC' including the comma and it was accepted without issues. Thanks everyone for the advice!

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Thanks for the update, this will help if I run into the same situation with Tennessee filings.

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Glad the document verification service worked out for you. Might have to try that for my next tricky filing.

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Just went through something similar with a Florida borrower. Turned out the debtor had filed under slightly different names in different counties before the statewide system. Your UCC-11 search might not be picking up older county-level filings.

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Florida centralized UCC filings in 2002. Anything before that might still be at the county level. Check with the counties where your debtor operated.

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Yara Khoury

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This is why professional UCC searches are worth it for complex situations. They know about these historical filing locations.

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Keisha Taylor

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Update us after you figure this out! Always curious how other lenders handle Florida's UCC search challenges.

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Will do. Hoping to get this sorted before the closing deadline.

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Keisha Taylor

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Good luck! Florida UCC searches are definitely one of the more frustrating aspects of due diligence.

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Ethan Wilson

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Quick question - when you guys are dealing with borrowers that have multiple related entities, how do you handle the debtor name on the UCC-1? Do you file separate forms for each entity or try to include multiple names on one filing?

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Always separate filings for separate legal entities. Don't try to combine them on one UCC-1 or you'll definitely get rejected.

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Malik Johnson

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Agreed. Each legal entity needs its own UCC filing with the exact registered name. No shortcuts there.

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Yuki Tanaka

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Thanks everyone for all the advice on this thread. I'm going to implement the state database verification process and see if that cuts down on our rejection rate. The Certana.ai tool sounds interesting too - might be worth trying if it can automate some of this verification work. Will report back on how it goes!

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Emma Davis

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The Certana tool has been a game-changer for us. The upload process is super simple and it catches inconsistencies we would have missed manually.

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Carmen Diaz

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Looking forward to hearing your results. UCC filing efficiency is something we all struggle with.

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Yuki Ito

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Try doing a search using just the first few words of the company name without any designations like LLC or Inc. Sometimes that will return results that the full name search missed due to formatting differences.

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Nia Jackson

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That's a good idea - I'll try a partial name search and see what comes up.

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Yuki Ito

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Just be careful with partial searches because you might get results for similarly named but different entities. Make sure to verify the addresses and other details match your debtor.

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Amara Nnamani

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One more thing - double check that you're searching in the right state. If this is a multi-state company, there might be UCC filings in other states where they do business or where the collateral is located.

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Amara Nnamani

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Good. Just wanted to make sure since I've seen cases where people search the wrong state and miss active liens.

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Aisha Khan

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Also worth checking if this is a subsidiary of a larger company. Sometimes UCC filings are made against the parent company name instead of the subsidiary.

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Zara Mirza

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Just went through something similar. Used specific 1-308 language and it actually helped us negotiate a better outcome. The lender's counsel took our objections more seriously once they saw we were preserving rights to challenge their demands. Ended up with a compromise that worked for everyone.

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Zara Mirza

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About three weeks. They came back with questions about our specific objections, we clarified our position, and eventually found middle ground on the collateral requirements.

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Diego Chavez

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This shows how 1-308 can work as intended - preserving rights while allowing business to continue. It's not about avoiding obligations, it's about keeping options open.

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Luca Russo

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Whatever you decide, document EVERYTHING. Keep copies of all communications, take notes on phone calls, save emails. If you do use 1-308 and end up in court later, you'll need a complete record of why you felt compelled to sign despite your objections.

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Malik Jackson

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Already started a file with all the lender communications. Should I also document our internal discussions about why we object to their demands?

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Luca Russo

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Absolutely. Internal memos showing your business reasons for objecting can be valuable evidence later. Just be careful about attorney-client privilege if your lawyer is involved.

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