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For what it's worth, I had great luck using the document verification approach someone mentioned earlier. Having an automated system catch potential filing issues before submission is a game-changer, especially when you're dealing with complex equipment schedules and multiple document versions. The peace of mind alone is worth it on deals this size.
Which system did you use? There are a few different options out there now.
Certana.ai - they have a specific UCC document checker that uploads PDFs and compares them for consistency. Really straightforward to use.
As someone who's just starting in equipment financing, this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm seeing a pattern here about the importance of getting the debtor name exactly right from organizational documents and using the hybrid approach for collateral descriptions (general category plus specific items with serial numbers). The automated document verification tools like Certana.ai that several people mentioned sound really useful for catching errors before filing. One quick question - for a newcomer, what's the typical timeline you allow between loan closing and UCC filing? Want to make sure I'm not rushing the accuracy checks but also not delaying perfection of the security interest.
Update us on how it goes! These kinds of issues are more common than people think with portfolio acquisitions.
This is exactly why we always recommend doing a comprehensive UCC audit immediately after any portfolio acquisition. I've seen too many cases where missing assignments create problems months or years later. One tip - when you file that UCC-3 assignment, consider also doing a continuation if the original filing is getting close to its 5-year expiration date. Better to handle both issues at once rather than having to come back again later. Ohio SOS usually processes assignments pretty quickly, so you should be able to file your amendment within a few days of the assignment being recorded.
That's really solid advice about checking the continuation timing too. I hadn't thought about that but you're right - if we're going through the trouble of cleaning up the assignment, might as well handle any upcoming expirations at the same time. Do you know if Ohio allows you to file the assignment and continuation simultaneously or do they need to be separate filings?
This is such a helpful thread! I'm relatively new to UCC filings and have been wondering about this exact issue. For someone just starting out, would you recommend always erring on the side of broader language like "all assets" or being more specific? Also, is there a good resource for learning about state-specific variations in how courts interpret collateral descriptions?
Welcome to UCC filings! For beginners, I'd actually recommend starting with more specific descriptions until you get comfortable with the nuances. It helps you understand what assets you're actually securing and reduces the risk of missing something important in your due diligence. As for state variations, the UCC Article 9 commentaries are a great starting point, and most state bar associations have secured transactions CLEs that cover local quirks. The American College of Commercial Finance Lawyers also publishes helpful practice guides that break down state-by-state differences.
@Sofia Ramirez gives excellent advice about starting specific. I d'add that you should also consider your client s'business model - if they re'likely to need additional financing down the road, overly broad language can create complications. For state-specific guidance, I ve'found that reaching out to experienced practitioners in your jurisdiction through bar association networks is invaluable. Many are happy to share insights about how local courts tend to interpret different collateral descriptions.
As someone who's been doing secured lending for about 8 years, I've found that "all assets" language generally works well, but there are a few practical considerations worth mentioning. First, make sure your loan agreement has specific covenants about what the borrower can and can't do with the collateral - broad UCC language without corresponding loan covenants can leave you exposed. Second, consider whether you need to file in multiple states if the borrower has assets across jurisdictions. And third, for a deal this size ($850K), I'd definitely recommend getting title insurance on any real estate that might be involved, even if you're not taking a mortgage - it helps clarify what's personal vs. real property. One last tip: keep detailed records of what assets existed at closing, because "all assets" filings can get messy in workout situations if you can't prove what was actually pledged.
This is incredibly thorough advice, thank you! The point about keeping detailed asset records at closing is something I hadn't considered but makes perfect sense for workout scenarios. Quick question - when you mention title insurance for real estate in an "all assets" deal, are you thinking about situations where there might be fixtures that blur the line between personal and real property? I'm wondering how that plays out practically when you're securing manufacturing equipment that might be permanently attached to the building.
Update: I tried another document checking tool after reading about Certana.ai here and it immediately flagged the name discrepancy between my original UCC-1 and the UCC-3 amendment I was trying to file. Turns out the original filing had the full LLC name in all caps, and I was using standard capitalization. Fixed that and the amendment went through on the next submission. Thanks for the advice everyone!
This thread is a perfect example of why I always stress to my junior associates that UCC filings are all about precision - one misplaced comma or wrong capitalization and you're back to square one. Delaware's strict name matching requirements might seem excessive, but they actually protect the integrity of the public record system. When you're dealing with equipment financing worth hundreds of thousands like these excavators, that 2-3 day processing time in Delaware is actually pretty reasonable compared to some other states. The key takeaway here is always work from the filed version of your original UCC-1, not your draft documents, since the state's system may have made formatting changes during processing.
This is really helpful insight, especially about working from the filed version rather than drafts. As someone new to UCC filings, I'm wondering - is there a way to easily access that filed version from Delaware's system, or do you need to request it separately? I want to make sure I'm building good habits from the start since precision seems so critical in this area.
Aisha Khan
I'm still confused about the 'deals in goods of that kind' requirement. What if the consignee normally sells different types of goods but agrees to take your consignment as a special arrangement?
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Isabella Santos
•When in doubt, file anyway. The cost of a UCC-1 filing is way less than the cost of losing your goods in a bankruptcy because you guessed wrong.
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Ethan Taylor
•This is exactly the kind of analysis where Certana.ai's document verification really helps. Upload your consignment agreement and it analyzes whether the arrangement likely triggers UCC filing requirements based on the specific terms.
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NeonNomad
One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the 20-day rule for consignments. Even if you file your UCC-1, you need to notify any existing secured parties who have filed against the consignee's inventory. You have to send written notice at least 20 days before delivering the consigned goods, or your filing won't protect you against those prior secured parties. I've seen consignors get burned by missing this step - they filed their UCC-1 but didn't give proper notice to the bank that had a blanket lien on inventory. When the consignee defaulted, the bank claimed priority over the consigned goods. The notice requirement is in UCC 9-324(b) if anyone wants to check the exact language.
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Malik Jackson
•This is such a crucial point that often gets overlooked! I'm relatively new to UCC work and had no idea about the 20-day notice requirement for existing secured parties. So even if you file your UCC-1 properly, you could still lose priority if you don't notify prior lienholders? That seems like a huge trap for unwary consignors. How do you typically identify who needs to be notified - do you run UCC searches on the consignee before every consignment arrangement?
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