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Kaiya Rivera

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We started requiring our borrowers to pull their own certificate of good standing within 30 days of closing specifically because of these Title 9 name matching issues. Costs them about $25-50 depending on the state but it gives us the most current legal name directly from the secretary of state. Has eliminated probably 80% of our name-related rejections.

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Noah Irving

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Do you make them get it from their state of incorporation or the state where they're doing business? We have borrowers registered in Delaware but operating in our state.

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Kaiya Rivera

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State of incorporation for the legal name, but we also check if they're qualified to do business in our state since that can affect the debtor name requirements for UCC filing location.

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Vanessa Chang

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. Sounds like this is just the new reality with Title 9 compliance and we need to tighten up our processes. Going to implement some of these suggestions including the automated verification tools. The cost of getting it wrong is just too high when you're talking about secured transactions and perfected liens.

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Madison King

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Good luck with the process improvements. The learning curve is steep but once you get the workflow down it becomes routine. Just remember that Title 9 doesn't give you much margin for error on debtor names.

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Julian Paolo

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Keep us posted on how the changes work out. Always interested to hear what solutions are working for other lenders dealing with these same Title 9 compliance challenges.

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Diego Ramirez

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For what it's worth the rejection notices from Alabama are usually pretty specific about what doesn't match. Look closely at the exact wording they use in the rejection vs what you filed. Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes you have to squint at punctuation marks.

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That's typical for AL unfortunately. Some states give you the exact correction needed, Alabama just tells you it's wrong.

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Sean O'Connor

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Try calling them with your rejection notice number. Sometimes they can look up what specifically didn't match.

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Zara Ahmed

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Update: Finally got this resolved! Turns out there was an invisible character in the business name that was copying over from our loan system. Used a document verification tool that flagged the hidden character and cleaned up the formatting. Third time was the charm - filing accepted this morning. Thanks everyone for the suggestions!

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Connor Murphy

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Great outcome! Which verification service did you end up using?

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Zara Ahmed

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Used Certana.ai - just uploaded the PDFs and it spotted the formatting issue immediately. Wish I'd tried it after the first rejection instead of wasting time with manual comparisons.

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I'm bookmarking this thread. Had no idea that comma placement could cause UCC-9 rejections. Shows how precise these filings need to be compared to other business documents.

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The UCC system is definitely less forgiving than most other filing systems. Precision is key for avoiding rejections and delays.

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Aisha Ali

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Similar situation happened with our UCC-9 assignment last year, except it was an ampersand vs "and" issue. The original UCC-1 used "&" but we spelled out "and" on the assignment. Three rejections later we figured it out. Now we have a standard process of pulling the original filing first and copying it exactly.

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Ethan Moore

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The ampersand vs and issue is super common with partnerships and joint ventures. These little formatting details can be deal killers.

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AstroAlpha

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Standard process is smart. Prevention is way better than dealing with rejection delays when you're under pressure.

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Document everything about these rejections. If you end up with a perfection gap due to SOS processing issues, you'll want a complete record showing your good faith efforts to maintain continuous perfection. This documentation could be crucial if there are ever disputes about the security interest priority.

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Also keep copies of all the different versions you tried to file. Shows you were actively working to correct any issues.

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Madison Tipne

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Your legal team will thank you for this documentation if issues arise later. Due diligence in filing efforts matters.

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Update us on what works! I have two UCC-103 continuations coming up next month and want to avoid this same nightmare. Really hoping the SOS systems get more user-friendly soon, but I'm not holding my breath.

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Kyle Wallace

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The learning curve on UCC-103 filings is steep. Every state seems to have different quirks and requirements.

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Cedric Chung

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Will definitely update once we get this resolved. Thanks everyone for the suggestions - trying the document verification approach first.

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Sergio Neal

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Update us when you figure out what was causing the rejection! I'm dealing with a potential Oregon UCC issue myself and want to know what to watch out for.

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Will definitely post an update once I get it resolved. Hopefully it's something simple like the address formatting that others mentioned.

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Yes please update! These kinds of real-world examples are super helpful for learning what to avoid.

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Juan Moreno

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Consider reaching out to the original lender's legal department if you continue having issues. They should be familiar with Oregon's requirements and might be able to provide a corrected termination form that will process successfully.

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Amy Fleming

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Banks definitely should know how to do this properly since they file UCC documents constantly. If they gave you a defective termination form that's really their problem to fix.

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Alice Pierce

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Exactly. The secured party is responsible for providing accurate termination documents. Don't let them put this back on you to figure out.

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