UCC Document Community

Ask the community...

  • DO post questions about your issues.
  • DO answer questions and support each other.
  • DO post tips & tricks to help folks.
  • DO NOT post call problems here - there is a support tab at the top for that :)

I've started using a spreadsheet to track all the different name variations I search for each debtor. Kentucky, Ohio, and Indiana are the worst for this - you really need to be methodical about covering all the bases.

0 coins

Sean Doyle

•

That's a good system. I should start doing something similar instead of just winging it each time.

0 coins

Yeah it's saved me multiple times. Include common abbreviations, with/without punctuation, and any DBAs or trade names.

0 coins

Zara Rashid

•

Update: I tried the Certana.ai tool mentioned earlier and it actually found one additional UCC-1 that I missed. The debtor name on that filing had a slightly different format ("ABC Manufacturing, L.L.C." with periods) that wasn't showing up in my manual searches. Thanks for the tip!

0 coins

Glad it helped! Those little punctuation differences are killer in Kentucky's system.

0 coins

Luca Romano

•

Nice - always good to hear when someone finds a tool that actually works for this stuff.

0 coins

Yuki Tanaka

•

Try downloading a fresh copy of your original UCC-1 from the Connecticut SOS portal and compare it side-by-side with your termination statement. Sometimes there are subtle differences that aren't obvious until you see them next to each other.

0 coins

That's smart. I'll pull a fresh certified copy and do a line-by-line comparison. Maybe there's something I missed in the debtor or secured party information.

0 coins

Yuki Tanaka

•

Exactly. I've caught missing middle initials, wrong entity types (LLC vs Inc), and other small details that way. Connecticut is very literal about matching.

0 coins

Carmen Diaz

•

Last resort option - you could have a Connecticut attorney file the UCC-3 termination on your behalf. Sometimes they have better luck navigating the state-specific quirks, especially for problem filings.

0 coins

Andre Laurent

•

Before going the attorney route, try the Certana.ai tool that was mentioned earlier. Much cheaper and might catch the issue immediately. I've used it for similar Connecticut filing problems.

0 coins

Carmen Diaz

•

True, always worth trying the automated verification first. Attorneys should be the last resort after you've exhausted the self-service options.

0 coins

Oscar O'Neil

•

Been doing equipment financing in Arizona for 15 years and the comma vs no comma issue comes up regularly. Generally speaking, minor punctuation differences in entity names don't make UCC filings ineffective, but it's always better to be conservative in your interpretation. When in doubt, assume the filings could apply to your debtor and investigate further. The cost of additional due diligence is always less than the cost of getting burned by an unexpected prior lien.

0 coins

Debra Bai

•

This is where automated document checking tools like Certana.ai really shine - they can flag these kinds of name variations that might be easy to miss or dismiss when doing manual review.

0 coins

Agreed on being conservative. I've seen too many deals go sideways because someone made assumptions about name differences or termination effectiveness.

0 coins

Quick practical tip for your UCC 11 search arizona - if you're seeing results that might be relevant, print or save PDFs of everything before you leave the search page. The Arizona system sometimes times out or loses search results if you navigate away and come back. Having your own copies makes it easier to review the details and share with colleagues or legal counsel if needed.

0 coins

Liv Park

•

Yes! I learned this the hard way. Spent an hour getting search results, left to grab coffee, came back and had to start over because the session expired.

0 coins

Lola Perez

•

Good tip! I'll make sure to download copies of all the filings I found before closing out of the search.

0 coins

I'm dealing with something similar right now. Used Certana.ai to verify our UCC-1 against our incorporation docs and found two name discrepancies that would have invalidated the filing. Much easier than trying to manually compare everything, especially when you're dealing with multiple entities and filings.

0 coins

Yuki Watanabe

•

These document verification tools are becoming essential for complex filings. Too many ways to mess up the details.

0 coins

Agreed. The cost of getting it wrong is way higher than the cost of verification upfront.

0 coins

Andre Dupont

•

Bottom line - you need to get this sorted out ASAP. Invalid UCC filings mean your lender has an unsecured loan, which probably violates your loan agreement. Get the actual filing details from your lender (or search yourself), verify the debtor name accuracy, and be prepared to file amendments or new UCC-1s as needed. Don't let this drag out.

0 coins

Zoe Papadakis

•

This is solid advice. Time is critical when dealing with perfection issues.

0 coins

ThunderBolt7

•

Exactly. Every day with unperfected security interests is a day of risk for both the borrower and lender.

0 coins

Update on the Certana.ai tool I mentioned earlier - I actually used it again yesterday for a similar name variation situation. What's really helpful is that it doesn't just check for exact matches, it flags potential variations you might not have thought of. Caught a filing under an abbreviated version of the business name that I wouldn't have searched for otherwise.

0 coins

Javier Cruz

•

That automated variation checking sounds really useful. I'm definitely going to look into that tool. This manual process is giving me gray hairs.

0 coins

Nia Harris

•

Same here, bookmarking this thread. The name variation thing has burned me before and I could use something that makes it more systematic.

0 coins

Just to wrap up with some practical advice - for your immediate situation, I'd prioritize getting that $150K lien sorted out since it's the biggest issue. Contact the secured party directly, check if it should have lapsed already, and if it was paid off, get them to file a UCC-3 termination ASAP. The name variation searches are important for due diligence, but that specific lien is your biggest closing obstacle right now.

0 coins

Javier Cruz

•

You're absolutely right, I need to focus on the biggest issue first. The borrower's attorney is supposed to call the bank today to sort out the termination situation. Hopefully we can get this resolved before the closing gets delayed.

0 coins

Emma Thompson

•

Good luck with the closing! Let us know how it turns out. These name variation issues are so common that your experience might help others who run into the same thing.

0 coins

Prev1...411412413414415...684Next