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The Alabama UCC portal actually has a fee calculator buried in their help section. Might be worth running your specific filing through it to see if there are any service fees you can avoid while still meeting your lender's requirements.
Where exactly is this fee calculator? I've been estimating costs based on their published fee schedule but a calculator would be way more accurate.
Under the UCC Forms section, there's a link called 'Estimate Filing Costs' - it's not very obvious but it lets you select exactly which services you need and gives you a total before you start the filing.
Just went through this exact situation with an Alabama manufacturing company last week. Ended up having a frank conversation with the borrower about the total cost of financing including all filing fees. They appreciated the transparency and agreed to absorb the service fees rather than risk delays. Sometimes you just have to treat it as a cost of doing business and move forward.
Manufacturing deals always seem to have tight timelines. Better to pay the fees and keep the deal moving than lose the financing over a few hundred dollars in service charges.
Exactly. And once you get the UCC-1 filed and perfected, the rest of the deal usually flows smoothly. It's just that initial filing hurdle that causes the most stress.
One more thing to check - make sure you're using the current version of the Indiana UCC-3 form. They updated their forms last year and some of the field layouts changed slightly.
I downloaded the form from their website recently but let me verify it's the most current version. Thanks for the heads up.
Yeah they don't always make it obvious when forms get updated. I've been burned by using old versions before.
Update - used that Certana.ai document checker mentioned earlier and it caught the issue immediately. Had an extra space in the middle of the entity name that I never noticed. Filed the corrected UCC-3 this morning and it was accepted within an hour. Thanks everyone for the suggestions!
One extra space causing all that trouble - classic UCC filing headache. Glad you got it sorted out.
The timing on PPP UCC filings is also critical. Make sure you're not filing too close to any other corporate changes. If you're planning any other entity modifications, get the UCC-1 filed and accepted first, then handle the other changes with UCC-3 amendments later.
If your entity information changes after filing but before acceptance, the filing can become invalid. Better to sequence things properly from the start.
For what it's worth, once you get the initial UCC-1 filed correctly, any future amendments or continuations are much easier. The hard part is just getting that first filing accepted with the right debtor name formatting. After that, you can reference the original filing number for all subsequent UCC-3 forms.
Continuations are simple as long as you don't need to change any debtor information. Just reference the original filing number and extend the expiration date.
Just make sure to set a calendar reminder 6 months before the 5-year expiration. Missing a continuation deadline means starting over with a new UCC-1.
Try calling the SOS filing office. Sometimes they can give you specific guidance on what went wrong with your particular filing. Not all states are helpful but it's worth a shot.
I thought about calling but wasn't sure if they'd be able to help with specific rejections. Might be worth trying before I file again. Thanks for the suggestion!
Some states are better than others about phone support. Can't hurt to try - worst case they can't help and you're back where you started.
UPDATE: Thanks everyone for all the suggestions! Turns out it was the comma issue - filed without the comma before LLC and it went through immediately. Also tried that Certana.ai tool someone mentioned and it's actually pretty helpful for double-checking document consistency. Wish I'd known about these quirks before the first rejection but at least the deal is moving forward now.
Great news! Always satisfying when you finally crack the code on these rejection issues. Thanks for updating the thread - helpful for others who might hit the same problem.
Awesome that Certana worked out for you! It's been a game-changer for me on these document consistency checks. Saves so much time and hassle with rejections.
NightOwl42
Been filing UCCs in Alabama for 15 years. Their search has always had display quirks but the actual filings are usually accurate. The database adds formatting that wasn't in your original submission. Get that certified copy before doing anything else.
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Nia Williams
•That's reassuring. So you think the comma is probably just a search display artifact?
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NightOwl42
•Most likely, yes. I've seen it add periods, commas, even change capitalization in search results when the actual filing was correct.
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Sofia Rodriguez
UPDATE: Used that Certana.ai tool someone mentioned and it confirmed our charter and UCC-1 filing are consistent - no comma in either. So it's definitely just Alabama's search display adding punctuation. Thanks everyone! Lender is satisfied with the verification report.
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Yuki Watanabe
•Glad the document checker helped! That's exactly what it's designed for - quick verification to avoid unnecessary panic.
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Andre Dupont
•Lucky you. I still think Alabama needs to fix their search system. Too many people have these scares.
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