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Will do. Planning to try the Certana tool first to see if there's already a termination filed under a different name variation.

Good strategy. Always worth checking for filing discrepancies before assuming the worst.

This is incredibly helpful, thank you! Having a specific action plan with the actual statute reference makes me feel much more confident about pushing back. I'll definitely start with the Certana tool - seems like several people here have had success with it catching filing discrepancies. The professional but firm approach sounds perfect for this situation.

That's excellent advice about maintaining a complete paper trail. I've seen situations where having just one piece of documentation wasn't enough, especially when dealing with complex equipment financing arrangements. The payoff letter also usually includes the original loan reference numbers which can be crucial if there are any discrepancies between what's on the UCC-1 filing versus the termination paperwork.

That's really useful information about the online portals! I'm dealing with a smaller community bank for my equipment loan and wondering if they might be using one of those UCC service companies you mentioned. It would explain why my loan officer seemed unsure about the timeline when I called last week. Do you know if there's a way to find out which service company they use, or should I just ask them directly? I'm hoping to avoid any extra delays since I have a potential equipment buyer lined up for next month.

Great question about the transition period! I started practicing right around when most states were adopting the revised numbering, and honestly there wasn't much pushback from courts - they seemed to understand it was just a renumbering issue. The bigger problem was internal document consistency within law firms and companies that had template agreements with mixed citations. I remember one opposing counsel actually thanked me for using the dual citation format because it saved them from having to research which version applied in our jurisdiction. The transition was surprisingly smooth once people realized the substance hadn't changed, just the section numbers.

Smart approach. Better to be overly thorough on equipment purchases - liens can transfer with the equipment if you're not careful.

Let us know how it goes! Always curious to hear about real-world search experiences.

Absolutely this! I've seen deals where everything looked clear during due diligence but then a lien showed up months later that wasn't properly disclosed. Having that formal representation in writing saved my client from a major headache. The seller's attorney should be able to provide a clean UCC search certificate as part of the closing package.

@a5ec92485497 This is such valuable advice! I'm dealing with exactly the same challenge that @dd84d3bd2424 mentioned in the original post - trying to sort out which of our 2020-2022 filings need immediate attention. Your three-tier system would have prevented the panic I'm feeling right now about those 2020 deadlines! I'm particularly interested in your comment about keeping filed-stamped copies separate. Do you maintain a master spreadsheet that cross-references the original UCC-1 with each continuation filing? I'm imagining a scenario where we need to quickly prove our filing chain to a title company or another lender, and having everything organized properly would be crucial. Also, have you ever had to deal with a situation where a continuation was rejected and you had to refile within that 6-month window? I'm nervous about cutting things too close on our 2020 filings.

@a5ec92485497 This three-tier reminder system is brilliant! I'm actually implementing something similar after reading your post. One thing I'd add based on my experience - during that 18-month planning phase, it's also worth reviewing whether you still need the UCC filing at all. I've found several cases where loans were paid off or restructured but the paperwork never made it back to our UCC tracking system. Saved us filing fees on about 6 unnecessary continuations last year. Also, regarding the separate folder organization, I've started using color-coded labels - green for active original filings, yellow for pending continuations, and red for expired/terminated. Makes it much easier to do quick visual audits of our filing status. Do you have any tips for coordinating this across multiple team members? We're growing and I need to make sure this system works when I'm not the only one managing it.

@ad76a6acb079 That's really helpful about the amendment process for name changes! I hadn't realized you need to do the amendment first before the continuation. For the merger situation you mentioned, is there any flexibility in timing? Like if Company A merged into Company B six months ago, but we're just now preparing the continuation statement - do we have to file the amendment and continuation separately, or can some states accept them simultaneously? Also, your point about allowing 2 weeks for potential rejections is smart. I've been thinking I could file these right at the deadline, but it sounds like that's asking for trouble if there are any technical issues with the forms.

@ad76a6acb079 @1bd23f17c294 Adding to this name change discussion - I've dealt with several merger situations and timing can be critical. Most states require the amendment to be filed and accepted before you can file the continuation, so you can't bundle them together. However, some states have a "seriously misleading" standard where minor name variations might not require amendments. For major changes like mergers, though, you definitely need that amendment first. I learned this the hard way when a continuation got rejected because it referenced the wrong entity name. Had to scramble to file the amendment and then refile the continuation, all within the remaining window. Pro tip: if you know about corporate changes, handle the amendments well before you need to file continuations. Don't wait until you're in that 6-month window to discover naming issues.