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Kiara Greene

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One more thing - after filing the termination, run another UCC search a few days later to confirm it was processed correctly and the original lien is no longer showing as active. I've seen filings get lost in the system.

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Paloma Clark

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This whole process seems unnecessarily complicated. Why isn't there a simpler way to handle UCC terminations?

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Heather Tyson

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Because it's government bureaucracy. They make everything as complicated as possible! At least tools like Certana make the document checking part easier.

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Demi Hall

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Thanks everyone for the detailed advice! I'm definitely going to pull the original UCC-1 filing first to check the exact debtor name before doing anything. The name mismatch issue has me worried since we did change our corporate name in 2022. @Sara Unger mentioned filing an amendment first - do you know if that's required in all states or just some? Also @Justin Trejo that Certana tool sounds really helpful for catching these document errors. I'd rather spend a little upfront to avoid rejection headaches. Will report back once I get this sorted out!

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Dylan Cooper

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Bottom line - GSA collateral typically includes everything except real estate and maybe some excluded assets. Your UCC-1 needs to match that scope exactly. Get it right the first time because amendments cost money and can create gaps in perfection timing that smart debtors' attorneys will exploit.

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QuantumQueen

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Thanks everyone. This gives me a much better understanding of what I'm dealing with. Going to review our GSA carefully and probably use that verification tool before filing.

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Aisha Rahman

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Smart approach. Taking the time upfront to get it right saves a lot of headaches later.

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Zara Mirza

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One more thing to watch out for - make sure your debtor name on the UCC-1 exactly matches your legal entity name as registered with the state. Even small variations like "Inc." vs "Incorporated" or missing commas can invalidate the filing. I've seen deals delayed because the UCC-1 had the debtor listed as the DBA name instead of the legal entity name. Most states have become very strict about this - the name has to match the state filing records exactly or the UCC search won't find it, which means your security interest isn't properly perfected.

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This is such a critical point that often gets overlooked! I've seen so many UCC filings get rejected or become ineffective because of name discrepancies. It's worth pulling your state's business entity records before filing to confirm the exact legal name format. Some states are incredibly picky - they'll reject a filing if you use "Corp" instead of "Corporation" even though they mean the same thing.

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Carmen Ruiz

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One more thing - keep a copy of the filed UCC-3 termination for your records. Some auditors want to see proof that liens were properly released on paid-off loans. Documentation is key.

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Carmen Ruiz

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Smart practice. Shows you're on top of your compliance requirements.

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Our bank got dinged on an exam once for not having proper documentation on lien releases. Learned that lesson the hard way.

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Simon White

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This thread has been super helpful! As someone new to handling UCC releases, I was wondering - is there a standard timeframe for how long it takes for the UCC-3 termination to show up in the public records after filing? I want to be able to tell my borrower when they can expect to see the lien released if they check online.

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Amara Okonkwo

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Bottom line - NC UCC statute gives you 6 months before expiration to file the continuation. File early, double-check everything, and make sure the debtor name matches exactly. With $850K at stake, it's worth being extra careful. Consider filing in February or March 2025 to give yourself plenty of buffer time before the June expiration.

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Perfect summary. Filing early is always the smart move with continuation statements.

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Agreed. I'd rather file 4 months early than risk missing the deadline by even one day.

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Ava Harris

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As someone who's handled dozens of NC UCC continuations, I can confirm the 6-month window is correct per NC Gen. Stat. 25-9-515(d). Given your $850K exposure, I'd strongly recommend filing by February 2025 at the latest. One critical tip many overlook - pull a fresh UCC search report right before filing to ensure you're copying the exact debtor name format, including any punctuation or spacing. NC's electronic system is unforgiving about name variations. Also, since this involves construction equipment, verify whether any machinery has become so integrated into real property that it might require fixture filing treatment under NC law. Better to be over-cautious on a loan this size.

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Lilly Curtis

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For anyone still struggling with this, I found that calling the Secretary of State filing office directly can sometimes help. They can't give legal advice but they can tell you if your proposed language is likely to be rejected based on common issues they see. Saved me a lot of time and filing fees.

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Lilly Curtis

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I just asked if there were common rejection reasons for collateral descriptions and if they had any guidance documents. Most were actually pretty helpful.

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Lindsey Fry

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This is good to know. I've been too intimidated to call them directly but sounds like it's worth trying.

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Eva St. Cyr

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This is such a timely discussion! I'm a newcomer here but dealing with similar UCC filing headaches for a client's working capital facility. The evolution of filing office standards has definitely caught a lot of practitioners off guard. One thing I'd add is to pay attention to the specific UCC Article 9 definitions when drafting your collateral description. Terms like "equipment" and "inventory" have very specific legal meanings that filing offices are starting to enforce more strictly. Also, if you're dealing with intellectual property, some states now want you to be more explicit about whether you mean patents, trademarks, copyrights, or trade secrets rather than just saying "general intangibles." The landscape has definitely gotten more complex, but threads like this are incredibly helpful for navigating these changes.

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Ravi Sharma

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Welcome to the community! You're absolutely right about the Article 9 definitions becoming more important. I've noticed the same trend with IP classifications - we had a filing rejected last year because we used "intellectual property" instead of specifically listing "patents, trademarks, and copyrights." It's frustrating how much more technical these descriptions have become, but at least we're all learning together. Have you found any particular states that are more strict than others about these definitions?

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