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Lilly Curtis

Is SAI of 29,686 too high for $36k/year college? Will FAFSA ignore my mortgage?

Just got my FAFSA SAI score of 29,686 and I'm freaking out! My daughter's dream school costs $36k per year and I'm wondering if this means we're basically on the hook for almost all of it? I'm especially confused because we have a pretty hefty mortgage payment ($2,100/month) plus car payments that weren't factored into the calculation at all. Does FAFSA just ignore all debt when determining how much you can afford to pay? Seems crazy that they think we can afford $30k a year when we're already stretched thin with our monthly payments. Anyone been in a similar situation or have advice on next steps? TIA.

Leo Simmons

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Unfortunately, the FAFSA formula doesn't directly consider consumer debt like mortgages, car loans, or credit cards when calculating your SAI (Student Aid Index). It primarily looks at income, some assets, household size, and number of college students in your family. With an SAI of 29,686 and a $36k/year cost, you'd theoretically be expected to contribute about $29,686, leaving potential aid of around $6,314 - though this varies by school. Best steps now: 1) Look beyond federal aid - apply for school-specific scholarships 2) Check if your daughter's school uses the CSS Profile (considers more financial details) 3) Contact the financial aid office directly to explain your debt situation through a "professional judgment" review 4) Consider a Parent PLUS loan to cover the gap

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Lilly Curtis

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Thank you for the detailed response. I had no idea they completely ignored mortgage debt! That seems so unfair - our house payment is our biggest monthly expense. Is the professional judgment review something specific I need to ask for? And I've heard terrible things about Parent PLUS loans... are they really as bad as people say?

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Lindsey Fry

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idk but my brother had like $33k SAI and still got some grants from his school. you should apply for every scholarship you can find and def talk to the financial aid ppl at the school. thats wat he did.

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Lilly Curtis

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Thanks for giving me a little hope! Did your brother get any actual federal grants or was it all from the school directly? I'll definitely be looking into scholarships.

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Saleem Vaziri

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The whole FAFSA system is SERIOUSLY BROKEN! I'm in the same boat - high SAI but drowning in mortgage debt, car payments, medical bills - none of which they consider! They expect us to somehow magically come up with tens of thousands for college when we're barely keeping our heads above water with monthly expenses. It's like they think we can just sell our furniture to pay for tuition! And heaven forbid you've saved anything for retirement - they'll penalize you for that too!

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Kayla Morgan

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While I sympathize with your frustration, I should clarify that retirement accounts (401k, IRA, etc.) are actually protected and NOT counted in the FAFSA calculation. Only non-retirement investments are considered. But you're right that the formula doesn't account for debt obligations, which is a legitimate criticism.

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James Maki

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have u looked at css profile schools? some of them actually do consider your debt and housing costs unlike fafsa. my daughter got way better aid from schools that used both systems

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Lilly Curtis

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I haven't heard of CSS profile schools - is that something different from FAFSA? My daughter applied to 5 schools and I'm not sure if any use this. How do I find out?

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Kayla Morgan

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I work in college financial aid, and I can tell you that an SAI of 29,686 doesn't necessarily mean you'll pay full price at a $36k/year school. Many institutions offer merit scholarships based on academic performance that aren't tied to your FAFSA results. Also, the school's own institutional aid might help bridge the gap. Regarding debt consideration - you're correct that the FAFSA formula doesn't factor in consumer debt. The philosophy behind this (though you may disagree with it) is that discretionary choices about housing, vehicles, etc. shouldn't reduce a family's responsibility toward educational costs. However, many colleges with institutional funds will consider these factors if you request a professional judgment review and provide documentation of your financial obligations.

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Lilly Curtis

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Thank you for the insider perspective! My daughter has a 3.8 GPA and 1320 SAT - do you think that would qualify for merit scholarships? And what exactly should I say when requesting this professional judgment review? Should I just call the financial aid office directly?

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Lilly Curtis

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Oh wow, I've been trying to call them too with no luck! I'll check out that service. Did you have to provide specific documentation for the professional judgment review? What kinds of things did they want to see?

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Cole Roush

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FAFSA is a joke...my SAI was 32k but my actual take-home pay after taxes and health insurance is WAY less than they think I can afford. We ended up going with community college for 2 years then transferring to save money. Best decision ever. Sometimes the expensive dream school isn't worth the crippling debt.

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Lilly Curtis

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We've talked about community college, but my daughter has her heart set on this particular program that isn't available locally. Though I'm definitely starting to worry about the long-term impact of taking on so much debt...

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Cole Roush

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Trust me I get it. My son was the same way. Just make sure she understands she might be paying those loans until she's 40+ depending on what she borrows. Sometimes the job prospects don't match the cost of the degree.

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Leo Simmons

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One strategy you might consider: accept the best financial aid package you receive initially, then request a professional judgment review (sometimes called a special circumstances review) with the financial aid office. Bring documentation of all your debt obligations, monthly payments, and any unusual expenses. Be polite but persistent. Also, don't overlook private scholarships - there are thousands available through community organizations, employers, and online platforms like Fastweb. Even small scholarships of $500-$1000 can add up. Finally, if your daughter has strong academics, consider whether she might qualify for better merit aid at a different but similar institution. Sometimes schools competing for the same students will offer dramatically different aid packages.

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Lilly Curtis

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This is really helpful advice, thank you! I didn't realize we could potentially negotiate with the financial aid office. I'll definitely gather all our financial documents and prepare for that conversation.

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Lindsey Fry

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my cousin had to write a appeal letter thing to his school explaining all the bills they had that fafsa doesn't count and they ended up giving him like $7k more in grants so def worth trying

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Lilly Curtis

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That's amazing! Was it a specific form or just a letter explaining their situation? Did they need to provide proof of all their expenses?

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Kayla Morgan

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Regarding your question about applying for a professional judgment review: yes, you should call the financial aid office directly. Ask for an appointment to discuss your financial circumstances that weren't captured on the FAFSA. Many schools have a specific form for this purpose. Bring documentation of your mortgage statement, car payments, and any other significant expenses. And with a 3.8 GPA and 1320 SAT, your daughter is definitely in range for merit scholarships at many institutions. If she hasn't received any yet, contact the admissions office (not just financial aid) to ask about merit scholarship opportunities she might have missed. Sometimes there are departmental scholarships for specific majors that require separate applications.

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Lilly Curtis

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Thank you so much for this detailed advice! We'll definitely reach out to both the financial aid and admissions offices. Would it be better to do this by phone or email? And should my daughter be involved in these conversations or is it better coming from the parent?

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Saleem Vaziri

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Just wait until you get to year 2 of college and realize your savings are completely depleted and you still have 2-3 more years to go!! The whole system is designed to push families into taking Parent PLUS loans with their ridiculous interest rates. I'm 58 and will be paying for my kids' education until I'm 70+ years old. It's absolute madness.

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Lilly Curtis

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This is exactly what I'm afraid of. I'm already 52 and the thought of taking on massive debt at this stage is terrifying. Did you find any alternatives to Parent PLUS loans?

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Kayla Morgan

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To answer your questions from earlier threads: 1) For professional judgment reviews, phone calls are good for initial contact, but email is better for follow-up with documentation. Always keep records of all communications. 2) For the first contact, it's fine for just you to call, but involving your daughter shows commitment and makes a positive impression, especially for merit aid discussions. 3) Parent PLUS loans do have higher interest rates than Direct Student loans, but they provide more flexible borrowing limits. Consider having your daughter take the maximum Direct Subsidized/Unsubsidized loans first ($5,500 for freshmen) before turning to Parent PLUS. 4) CSS Profile is used by about 200 schools (mostly private) who want more detailed financial information than FAFSA provides. You can check if your daughter's schools require it on the College Board website.

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Lilly Curtis

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you! I'll check the College Board website about the CSS Profile schools. One last question - if we do end up having to take loans, is there any forgiveness program for parents like there is for students, or are we just stuck with the full amount no matter what?

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Leo Simmons

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Unfortunately, Parent PLUS loans have fewer forgiveness options than student Direct loans. They're not eligible for income-based repayment plans unless consolidated into a Direct Consolidation Loan, and even then, only the Income-Contingent Repayment plan is available (which is less generous than plans available to students). Public Service Loan Forgiveness is technically available for parents if YOU (not your child) work in qualifying public service for 10 years while making payments, but this isn't helpful for most families. This is why I suggest exhausting all scholarship, grant, and Direct Student Loan options first. The current annual limit for freshman Direct loans is $5,500, sophomore $6,500, and junior/senior $7,500.

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Lilly Curtis

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I suspected as much. Seems like we'll need to have some serious family discussions about how much debt we're willing to take on for this particular school. Thank you everyone for all the advice - it's given us a lot to think about and some concrete next steps!

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I'm in a very similar situation - SAI of 31,200 with a $38k/year school and feeling completely overwhelmed! Reading through all these responses has been so helpful. I had no idea about professional judgment reviews or that some schools use CSS Profile for better aid consideration. One thing I'd add from my own research - definitely look into your state's 529 college savings plan if you haven't already. Even though it won't help for this year, if you have younger kids or are planning ahead, the tax benefits can really add up. Also, some employers offer tuition assistance or scholarships for employees' children that many people don't know about. The community college transfer route mentioned earlier is worth seriously considering too. My neighbor's daughter did 2 years at community college then transferred to her dream school as a junior - saved over $40k and still got the same degree. Sometimes being practical about finances is the most loving thing we can do for our kids' futures. Good luck with the professional judgment review process - I'll be following your lead on that!

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Thank you for sharing your experience and adding such helpful suggestions! The 529 plan is a great point - I wish I had started one when my daughter was younger. I'll definitely check with my employer about any tuition benefits I might not know about. It's reassuring to know others are in similar situations with these high SAI numbers. The community college transfer route is looking more appealing as I learn more about the debt implications. Keep me posted on how your professional judgment review goes too - maybe we can share tips along the way!

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