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Nathaniel Mikhaylov

FAFSA showing negative SAI (-1500) for 23-year-old without parent info - what does this mean?

My daughter just filled out her 2025-2026 FAFSA and something unexpected happened. She's 23 (turns 24 in August), not married but lives with her fiancé in their own apartment. When she was filling out the application, it never asked for any of my income information like it has in previous years. Then she got what looks like a negative SAI score of -1500. I'm completely confused about what this means! Is a negative number good? And why didn't I have to provide my information this time? Did she do something wrong or is this because she's older now? Any help understanding this would be really appreciated!

A negative SAI is actually GOOD! It means she's likely eligible for more aid than a student with a positive number. The lower the SAI, the more aid eligibility. As for not needing parent info, at 23 going on 24, she's probably now considered an independent student for FAFSA purposes.

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Thank you! That's such a relief. So does the -1500 mean she'll definitely get financial aid? And is there anything else she needs to do now?

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Your daughter automatically qualifies as an independent student now because of her age. The FAFSA considers students 24 and older (or who will be 24 anytime during the award year) as independent, which means parent information isn't required anymore. And yes, a negative SAI (Student Aid Index) is actually very good news! It indicates high financial need. The lower the SAI, the more aid she's likely to receive, especially for need-based grants like the Pell Grant. A -1500 SAI typically qualifies for maximum Pell Grant funding.

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That's amazing news! I didn't realize turning 24 changed things so much. Does the actual negative number (-1500) have any specific meaning? And will schools automatically see this, or does she need to send them anything?

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my son got a negative SAI too but his was like -2300 or something and he got the full pell grant amount!!! i think its good!!!

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That's so reassuring to hear! Congratulations to your son!

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Actually I need to correct something here. Your daughter isn't automatically independent just for being 23. The rule is that students must be 24 BEFORE January 1 of the award year. Since she's turning 24 in August of the award year, something else must be qualifying her as independent. Has she checked the independent student questions? Maybe she selected she's a graduate student, veteran, has dependents, etc? Or maybe she accidentally indicated she's already 24?

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Oh that's concerning! She's definitely 23 and an undergrad student with no dependents. I'll have her double-check what she entered. I hope she didn't make a mistake that will cause problems later!

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The previous poster is correct about the age cutoff. For the 2025-2026 FAFSA, a student needs to be born before January 1, 2002 to automatically qualify as independent due to age. If your daughter turns 24 in August 2025, she would have been born in August 2001, which means she DOES qualify as independent. No mistake was made here - she's correctly classified as independent due to her age.

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Thank you for sharing this! I might need it if we discover there was a mistake on her application after all.

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A NEGATIVE SAI IS GREAT NEWS!!!! My daughter got a -3200 and qualified for EVERYTHING. Max Pell, state grants, even extra institutional aid from her college. The fact that your daughter got a negative SAI without your income being counted is FANTASTIC. Definitely not a mistake, just enjoy the extra aid she'll get! 🎉🎉🎉

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While negative SAI is good, please be aware that each school has different ways of using the SAI for their institutional aid. The Pell Grant amount is standardized by federal guidelines, but other types of aid vary widely by institution. Your daughter should check with each school's financial aid office to understand their specific aid packages.

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To clarify a few things: 1. For the 2025-2026 FAFSA, students born before January 1, 2002 are considered independent due to age. If your daughter turns 24 in August 2025, she qualifies. 2. A negative SAI is beneficial. The SAI (Student Aid Index) replaced the old EFC and ranges from -1500 to 999999. A -1500 indicates maximum financial need. 3. With a -1500 SAI, she'll likely qualify for the maximum Pell Grant (approximately $7,395 based on current projections for 2025-2026). 4. The FAFSA automatically sends her information to the schools she listed on her application. She doesn't need to take additional steps for those schools to receive her SAI. 5. She should monitor her studentaid.gov account for any verification requests, as some students are randomly selected for verification of their information.

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Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! This really helps me understand everything. We'll definitely keep an eye on her studentaid.gov account for any verification requests. This is all such great news!

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Just make sure she actually did fill everything out correctly tho. Not to be a downer but if there was a mistake and they catch it later, they could reduce her aid or even make her repay it. Double check all the indepedent student questions to be 100% sure.

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That's a good point. I'll have her review everything. Better to catch any mistakes now than have problems later!

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One more thing - with a negative SAI, make sure your daughter still applies for scholarships!!! Some people think they don't need to with good FAFSA results, but every bit helps. And some scholarship money can be used for living expenses after tuition is covered!

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That's excellent advice - she'll definitely continue applying for scholarships. Thank you!

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