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FAFSA rejection after investing insurance money - Will rental property affect my son's financial aid?

I'm a widowed mom struggling with my son's FAFSA situation. My husband passed away 3 years ago, and I received life insurance from his employer. I invested that money and receive monthly payments that I use to help pay my son's apartment rent while he's in college. I also own our family home (I'm on the deed but mortgage was in husband's name), which I'm now renting out - but the rental income just covers the mortgage and HOA fees, so I don't actually profit from it. My son applied for financial aid but was rejected for grants and only offered about $4,000 in subsidized loans, which won't come close to covering his expenses. I work part-time, and my income barely covers groceries and basic bills. I really need guidance on: 1. Do my investment income and rental property affect his FAFSA eligibility, even though I don't profit from the rental? 2. Is there a way to complete the FAFSA that might help him qualify for grants given our situation? 3. Would changing his major to something more "professional" increase his chances of getting federal grants? We live in California. Any advice would be deeply appreciated - I'm completely overwhelmed by this process.

Ravi Gupta

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sry about ur husband :( the fafsa is all about assets and income. even if u don't profit from the rental, the house counts as an asset. same with the investments. both will reduce his aid. majors don't effect federal grants at all btw

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StarStrider

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Thank you for the response. So there's nothing I can do? Even though the house payments eat up all the rent money? It feels so unfair since we're barely making ends meet.

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I'm very sorry for your loss. To answer your questions specifically: 1. Yes, both the investment account and the rental property will count as parental assets on the FAFSA, typically assessed at around 5.64% toward your Expected Family Contribution (now called Student Aid Index or SAI). The house equity and investment principal both count against you, regardless of whether you're profiting from the rent. 2. For the FAFSA, report everything accurately, but make sure you're using the proper asset protections. The FAFSA has an Asset Protection Allowance based on your age that shields some assets from counting. Also, retirement accounts are exempt, so if any investments could be moved to qualified retirement accounts, they wouldn't count. 3. Your son's major has no impact on federal grant eligibility. Pell Grants and other federal aid are based solely on financial need, not field of study. I'd recommend scheduling an appointment with the financial aid office at your son's school. They can often suggest school-specific scholarships or suggest professional judgment review if your circumstances have special considerations.

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StarStrider

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Thank you so much for the detailed explanation. I didn't know about the Asset Protection Allowance - I'll look into that right away. And that's good to know about moving some investments to retirement accounts. I'll call the financial aid office tomorrow to set up an appointment.

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Omar Hassan

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The system is SUCH GARBAGE for people like us!! I went through almost the exact same thing when my sister died and I became guardian for my niece. The FAFSA counted all the life insurance money against her even though it was literally paying for our survival! And don't even get me started on how they treat homes as "assets" when they're really NECESSITIES. I tried EVERYTHING with the financial aid office and they just kept saying "our hands are tied by federal rules" - meanwhile my niece is taking out maximum loans and working 30 hours a week just to afford tuition.

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StarStrider

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It really does feel like the system is designed to work against families in unusual situations. I'm so sorry you and your niece went through that. Did you ever find any solutions that helped at all?

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My son was in a similar situation and we disputed our FAFSA calculation through a process called "Professional Judgment Review." You need to contact the financial aid office at your son's school and explain your special circumstances - specifically that the rental property isn't actually generating income for you and that the investment proceeds are necessary for basic living expenses. Bring documentation showing that the rent only covers mortgage and HOA. Also, did your income significantly change since the tax year they're using for the FAFSA? If so, that's another basis for appeal.

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Omar Hassan

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Professional Judgment is a JOKE. I tried that route too and got nowhere. Financial aid officers have no real power - they just pretend they do. The whole system is rigged against the middle class.

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StarStrider

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Thank you for mentioning Professional Judgment Review - I hadn't heard of that. Yes, my income is much lower now than the tax year they're using, so maybe that will help my case. I'll definitely ask about this when I talk to the financial aid office.

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Diego Vargas

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have you looked in2 scholarships 4 kids who lost a parent? my friend got one after her dad died. also check if your husbands employer has any scholarships for families of deceased employees

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StarStrider

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I hadn't thought about specific scholarships for students who've lost a parent. That's a great suggestion - I'll definitely look into that. And checking with my husband's former employer is a smart idea too. Thank you!

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CosmicCruiser

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StarStrider

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I know this isn't answering your immediate question, but have you considered looking into Dependent Education Benefits from Social Security? If your husband worked and paid into Social Security, your son might qualify for monthly benefits until he turns 18 (or 19 if still in high school). This wouldn't solve the FAFSA issue but might provide additional support. Also, the California Student Aid Commission offers Cal Grants that have slightly different eligibility criteria than federal aid. Make sure your son has completed the CA Dream Act Application too if you're California residents.

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StarStrider

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We did receive Social Security benefits after my husband died, but they stopped when my son turned 18 last year. I didn't know about Cal Grants having different criteria though - I'll definitely look into that right away. Thank you for the suggestion!

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Ravi Gupta

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u should also look at css profile schools they sometimes give better aid packages for complicated situations like urs

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This is excellent advice. CSS Profile schools (typically private institutions) often have more flexibility with institutional aid. They ask for more detailed financial information, but that can work in your favor when you have special circumstances like yours.

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After reading through the thread, I want to suggest a concrete action plan: 1. Contact your son's financial aid office for a Professional Judgment review - bring documentation of your current income, the rental property expenses, and explain how the investments are being used for essential living expenses. 2. Look into CSS Profile schools for next year if transfer is an option - they often have more institutional aid for complex situations. 3. Make sure your son has completed the California Dream Act Application for state-specific aid. 4. Have your son visit the school's scholarship office (separate from financial aid) - they often have databases of private scholarships including ones for students who have lost a parent. 5. Consider meeting with a financial advisor who specializes in college planning to see if there are ways to restructure your assets to improve aid eligibility for next year. Don't give up - I've seen many families in similar situations find solutions through persistence and exploring multiple avenues.

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StarStrider

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This is such a comprehensive plan - thank you! I feel more hopeful now that we have specific steps to take. I've made notes of everything you suggested and will start working through them immediately. Your advice has been incredibly helpful.

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Ezra Beard

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I'm so sorry for your loss. As someone who works with families navigating financial aid after losing a spouse, I want to emphasize that you're not alone in feeling overwhelmed by this process. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is appealing to your state's higher education assistance authority. California has additional programs beyond Cal Grants that might help. Also, if your son is attending a California Community College, they often have emergency financial assistance funds specifically for students facing hardship. Another avenue to explore: many colleges have partnerships with local organizations that provide emergency grants or scholarships. The financial aid office should have information about these, but sometimes the student success center or dean of students office knows about additional resources. Finally, document everything about your financial situation with dates and amounts. This will be crucial for any appeals process and can help demonstrate that while you technically have "assets," your actual available income is much lower than what the FAFSA calculations suggest. Keep pushing forward - the system is complicated, but there are often solutions hiding in places you haven't looked yet.

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Raj Gupta

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Thank you so much for all this detailed guidance! I had no idea there were so many different avenues to explore beyond the basic FAFSA. I'm definitely going to look into California's additional programs and will check with both the financial aid office and student success center about emergency assistance funds. Your advice about documenting everything is really smart too - I'll start putting together a comprehensive file of our financial situation. It's reassuring to know that there might be solutions I haven't discovered yet. This community has been such a lifeline during this overwhelming process.

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I'm really sorry for your loss and what you're going through. One thing I want to add that might help immediately - if your son's school participates in the Federal Work-Study program, that income doesn't count against next year's FAFSA the same way other student income does. Even if he didn't qualify this year, it's worth asking if there are any work-study positions still available or if he can get on a waitlist. Also, since you mentioned you're renting out the family home, make sure when you report it on the FAFSA that you're only reporting the NET equity (market value minus what you still owe), not the full property value. And if the property has depreciated since your husband's death, you might want to get a current appraisal. One more thought - some schools have "emergency aid" or "crisis grants" that are separate from the normal financial aid process. These are typically for unexpected situations and might be worth asking about given your circumstances.

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Ruby Garcia

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This is really helpful advice, especially about the work-study program! I didn't realize that income was treated differently on the FAFSA. And you're absolutely right about reporting net equity - I think I may have made an error on that when we first filled out the forms. Getting a current appraisal is a smart idea too since property values have been fluctuating. I'll definitely ask about emergency aid when I contact the financial aid office. Thank you for taking the time to share these specific tips - every little detail helps when you're trying to navigate this system!

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Mateo Warren

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I'm so sorry for your loss and the stress you're dealing with. As a financial aid counselor, I want to add a few points that might help: First, definitely pursue the Professional Judgment review that others mentioned - but when you do, emphasize that your investment withdrawals are for basic living expenses, not discretionary spending. The fact that you're using them to help with your son's housing costs actually strengthens your case since it shows the money is going toward educational expenses. Also, consider having your son file as an independent student if he meets any of the criteria (age 24+, married, has dependents, etc.). If not, there's also something called a "dependency override" for unusual circumstances, though it's harder to get approved. One strategy for next year: if possible, consider paying down any debts or prepaying expenses before the FAFSA snapshot date. This can reduce your reportable assets without actually reducing your financial security. Finally, many states have their own grant programs with different eligibility rules than federal aid. California's Middle Class Scholarship program, for example, might be worth looking into even if you didn't qualify for other aid. Don't give up - I've seen families in very similar situations find pathways to make college work.

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Thank you so much for this professional insight! The point about emphasizing that investment withdrawals are for basic living expenses makes perfect sense - I'll make sure to frame it that way during the Professional Judgment review. I hadn't heard about dependency overrides before, but I'll ask about that too since our situation definitely feels unusual. The strategy about paying down debts before the FAFSA snapshot date is really smart - I'll keep that in mind for next year's filing. And I'll definitely look into California's Middle Class Scholarship program. It's incredibly helpful to get advice from someone who works in financial aid and has seen these situations before. Thank you for giving me hope that there are still options to explore!

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