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Freya Johansen

FAFSA dependency status for 21-year-old living independently since 17 - will parents' income still count?

My stepson has been completely financially independent since he was 17. He works full time (60+ hrs/week at a restaurant), maintains his own apartment, recently purchased his own vehicle, and attends college part-time. We provide ZERO financial support. He's now 21 and applying for financial aid. His mother insists that FAFSA will consider our household income until he's 25, regardless of his independence. Is this actually true? Seems completely unfair that our income would prevent him from getting aid when we don't contribute a dime to his expenses. Are there any exceptions for students who are fully self-sufficient before 24? Any way around this requirement given his situation?

Unfortunately, your wife is generally correct. For federal financial aid purposes, students are considered dependent until age 24 regardless of how financially independent they actually are. There are specific exceptions, but simply living on your own and supporting yourself doesn't qualify. The exceptions include: being married, having dependents you support, being a veteran/active military, being an emancipated minor, being homeless/at risk of homelessness, or being/having been in foster care. Working full-time and supporting himself sadly doesn't change his dependency status for FAFSA purposes.

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That's incredibly frustrating. So essentially he's being penalized for working hard and supporting himself? He makes about $32,000/year which is enough for his basic needs but not enough for school without aid. Our household income would disqualify him from most need-based aid even though we don't contribute anything. Any workarounds at all?

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my cousin had tha same thing happen!!! hes been on his own since 18 but they still counted his parents who dont even talk to him anymore. something about "legal dependency" not actual dependency. its messed up

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Exactly! The system is broken. My buddy had to literally wait until he was 24 to go back to school because his parents made too much on paper but wouldn't give him a dime. Such a waste of time.

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He should talk to the financial aid office at his school about filing a "Dependency Override" request. While rare, some schools can make exceptions in extreme circumstances. He'll need to document his independence thoroughly - tax returns showing self-support, lease agreements, utility bills in his name, maybe letters from employers confirming his work history. It's a long shot but worth trying. Alternatively, if his circumstances match ANY of the automatic independent criteria (like if he was ever in foster care even briefly), he should focus on documenting that specific exception. The school's financial aid office is the best resource to help with this process.

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Thank you! I didn't know about the dependency override option. While he might not qualify since we still have some relationship with him (we just don't support him financially), it's at least worth exploring. I'll have him contact the financial aid office this week.

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I HATE THIS STUPID RULE SO MUCH!!! I was in almost the exact situation with my daughter who moved out at 18, and we couldn't get her any aid because of our income - even though we were barely covering our own bills after a medical bankruptcy! We didn't have a penny to give her for college but FAFSA didn't care. The whole system is built on this fantasy idea that all parents support their adult children through college. It's complete BS and punishes hard-working kids.

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So true! Same with my brother who hadn't lived with my parents for 3 years. They wouldn't even sign his FAFSA at first because they didn't want to share their tax info. Such a mess.

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After hours of trying to reach someone at Federal Student Aid about this same issue for my son, I finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through. I was connected to an agent in about 10 minutes who explained the documentation needed for a dependency override. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/TbC8dZQWYNQ The agent confirmed that in rare cases, students who can document complete financial self-sufficiency AND unusual circumstances (like parents refusing to provide information) might qualify for a dependency override. It's still very hard to get, but at least I got clear information instead of just website FAQs.

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did that service actually work? i tried callin FSA like 5 times and always get hung up on after waitin forever

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It did work, surprisingly. My son's situation was similar but not identical - he needed to speak with someone about a verification issue where our tax info wasn't matching what they had on file. Got through pretty quick.

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Another option to consider is having him complete his Associate's degree at the community college level first (assuming that's where he's attending part-time). Community colleges are significantly more affordable, and by the time he finishes, he might be closer to the 24-year age threshold for independent status. Also, has he looked into scholarships specifically for working students? Many organizations offer scholarships based on work ethic and not just financial need or academic merit. His 60-hour work weeks while attending school shows incredible dedication that many scholarship committees value.

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These are excellent suggestions. He is currently at a community college working on his Associate's, so that fits with what you're recommending. I hadn't thought about scholarships specifically for working students - that's a great idea I'll pass along to him. Appreciate the practical advice!

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has he tried applying for the Pell Grant? my friend was in a kinda similar spot and still got some Pell money even with parents making decent $. worth a shot maybe

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Pell Grants still use the FAFSA formula that includes parent income for dependent students. If the parent income is high enough, it would eliminate Pell eligibility regardless of whether they actually contribute. However, definitely worth applying anyway since the SAI (Student Aid Index) calculation has many factors beyond just income, and sometimes the results surprise people.

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Thank you all for the responses. It's both helpful and incredibly frustrating to confirm what my wife suspected. I'm going to have my stepson look into: 1. Speaking with his financial aid office about a dependency override (long shot but worth trying) 2. Continuing at community college to minimize costs until he reaches 24 3. Applying for scholarships specifically targeting working students 4. Still completing the FAFSA anyway just in case It's crazy that a system designed to help students can be so disconnected from real-world situations. A young adult who has been completely self-sufficient for years shouldn't be tied to parents' finances for aid purposes.

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EXACTLY! Please update us if any of these approaches work. I'm sure there are thousands of families facing this exact same situation with hardworking kids getting screwed by a broken system.

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This is such a common frustration! I went through something similar with my nephew a few years ago. One thing that might help - if your stepson has ANY documentation of being self-supporting before age 18 (like if he filed taxes independently at 17), that could strengthen a dependency override case. Also, some states have their own financial aid programs with different dependency rules than federal aid. He should check if his state offers grants or scholarships that don't rely on the FAFSA dependency determination. It's worth researching every angle since the federal system is so inflexible about real-world independence.

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That's really helpful about the documentation from before age 18! He did start filing his own taxes at 17 when he moved out, so we should definitely gather those records. I hadn't thought about state-specific aid programs either - that's another avenue worth exploring. It's encouraging to hear from someone who navigated this successfully with their nephew. Did your nephew end up getting the dependency override approved, or did he find other solutions?

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This is exactly why I think the FAFSA dependency rules need serious reform! Your stepson sounds incredibly responsible and self-sufficient. One additional option to consider - if he's working 60+ hours a week, he might qualify for employer tuition assistance programs. Many restaurants and retail chains now offer education benefits, even for part-time college students. It won't solve the FAFSA issue, but could help offset some costs. Also, make sure he's claiming the American Opportunity Tax Credit on his own tax return if eligible - that's up to $2,500 per year that goes directly to him, not based on your income since he files independently. The whole system assumes family financial support that often doesn't exist in reality. Definitely pursue all the suggestions others mentioned, especially the dependency override documentation.

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