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Madison Allen

Do I need to report parent's IRA distributions on 2024-25 TAP and FAFSA?

My dad just retired from his job at IBM last month, and now he's starting to receive distributions from his IRA. I'm filling out my 2024-25 FAFSA and New York TAP applications right now and I'm confused about whether I need to report these IRA distributions. The FAFSA instructions mention retirement accounts but it's not clear about distributions. For the TAP application specifically, do I need to include these IRA distributions as part of my parent's income? The monthly amount is around $2,800 and he's using it as regular income now. I don't want to mess up my financial aid by reporting incorrectly. Has anyone dealt with this situation before?

Yes, you DO need to report IRA distributions on both FAFSA and TAP applications. IRA distributions count as untaxed income for financial aid purposes, even if your father has retired. This is actually a common confusion point! For the 2024-25 FAFSA, you'll be using 2022 tax information, so if your father wasn't receiving distributions in 2022, you wouldn't report them. But for any distributions he received in the year that you're reporting on the FAFSA, they need to be included in the untaxed income section. For the NYS TAP application, you'll also need to report those distributions. The TAP application follows similar guidelines to FAFSA for income reporting, and retirement distributions are considered income for financial aid purposes.

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Thanks for clarifying! One follow-up question - since my dad only started receiving these distributions in 2023, and FAFSA is using 2022 tax info, I guess I don't need to report them on THIS year's FAFSA? But would I still need to report them on the TAP application since that's more current?

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My mom retired last yr and i didnt put her ira money on my fafsa bc my financial aid office said dont report retirement accounts!!! now im worried i did it wrong???

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There's a big difference between retirement account balances (which you generally don't report) and distributions/withdrawals from those accounts (which you do report as income). If your mom was actually taking money out of her retirement accounts, that should have been reported as untaxed income on your FAFSA. You might need to submit a correction.

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This is exactly why the new FAFSA system is SO frustrating!! The old form at least had clearer instructions about this stuff. For what it's worth, I was in a similar situation last year and ended up calling the NY State Higher Education office directly to confirm. They told me yes, report the distributions but not the account value itself.

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I've been trying to call the financial aid offices for two weeks about a similar question and can't get through to anyone! How did you actually reach a human at HESC? Every time I call it's just recordings and then it disconnects me after 45 minutes on hold. It's absolutely infuriating when you just need to ask one simple question about TAP eligibility.

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Here's the definitive answer on IRA distributions for the 2024-25 FAFSA and TAP applications: 1. For FAFSA: You'll report financial information from the 2022 tax year. If your father didn't receive IRA distributions in 2022, you won't report them for this FAFSA cycle. 2. For NYS TAP: The 2024-25 TAP application also uses 2022 tax information, contrary to what some believe. TAP switched to using prior-prior year tax data along with FAFSA several years ago. If your father starts receiving distributions in 2023, these would be reported on your 2025-26 FAFSA and TAP applications. Important note: These distributions are typically reported on Line 4a of the IRS Form 1040. The taxable portion appears on Line 4b and the untaxed portion is the difference between Lines 4a and 4b. Both taxable and untaxed portions impact your aid eligibility.

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you! So if both FAFSA and TAP for 2024-25 are using 2022 tax info, and my dad wasn't receiving distributions back then, I don't need to worry about reporting them on either application this year. That's a huge relief!

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kinda off topic but my parents refuse to giv me their financial info for FAFSA even tho im dependent and now i cant get any aid and im so stressed bc tuition is due nxt month and idk what to do :

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I'm sorry you're dealing with that. You might be eligible for a dependency override in special circumstances, though parent refusal alone usually isn't enough. Talk to your school's financial aid office immediately - they sometimes have emergency funds or can help with payment plans while you figure this out. Also ask about professional judgment reviews if your family situation has changed.

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Let me tell you from experience - the financial aid system is DESIGNED to be confusing about retirement income. When my husband retired, I reported his pension on my daughter's FAFSA and her EFC (now called SAI) jumped by $8000!!! The system basically punishes families who saved responsibly for retirement. It's complete BS that we're expected to drain retirement accounts for college when those same accounts are supposed to support us through our old age. Sorry for the rant but this makes me so angry every time I see these questions.

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I completely feel your frustration! The same thing happened to us last year. When my wife started taking her pension, our daughter's aid package shrunk dramatically. What made it worse was that nobody could give us a straight answer about how much of the pension to report or which line items counted. The whole system feels rigged against middle-class families who did the right thing by saving.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses! To summarize what I learned: 1. IRA distributions DO count as income for both FAFSA and TAP purposes 2. Both 2024-25 FAFSA and TAP use 2022 tax information 3. Since my dad wasn't receiving distributions in 2022, I don't need to report them on this year's applications 4. I'll need to report them next year (2025-26 applications) since he started receiving them in 2023 This community is amazing - I was really stressing about this!

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Glad we could help clarify! Just one more tip - when you DO report the distributions next year, make sure to distinguish between the taxable and non-taxable portions. They're treated slightly differently in the formula, and it can affect your SAI calculation. You can find this breakdown on your father's tax forms (lines 4a and 4b on Form 1040).

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Just wanted to add something that might help others - if your parent is doing Roth IRA distributions, the treatment can be different! With traditional IRAs, the entire distribution is usually taxable income that gets reported. But with Roth IRAs, if your parent is over 59½ and the account has been open for 5+ years, the distributions might be tax-free. However, even tax-free Roth distributions still need to be reported as untaxed income on FAFSA in some cases. It's worth double-checking with your school's financial aid office if you're dealing with Roth distributions specifically, since the rules can be tricky.

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This is such an important distinction that I wish more people knew about! I made this exact mistake with my mom's Roth IRA distributions last year. I assumed since they were "tax-free" I didn't need to report them anywhere, but then my financial aid counselor told me they still needed to go in the untaxed income section. It's so confusing because you'd think tax-free means you don't report it, but apparently the FAFSA formula still considers it available income for college expenses. Thanks for bringing this up - it could save someone a lot of headache during verification!

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As a newcomer to this community, I just want to say thank you for such detailed and helpful responses! I'm currently a high school senior going through this process for the first time and honestly, the financial aid forms feel overwhelming. Reading through this thread has taught me so much about IRA distributions that I never would have known to ask about. My parents are still a few years away from retirement, but it's good to know what to expect down the road. One question I have - are there any other "hidden" income sources that people commonly forget to report on FAFSA? I want to make sure I don't miss anything important when I fill out my applications this fall.

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Welcome to the community, Sofia! Great question about other income sources that people commonly miss. From what I've learned lurking here, some of the big ones are: child support received, unemployment benefits, worker's compensation, veteran's non-education benefits, and any cash support from relatives (like if grandparents help with expenses). Also, if your parents are self-employed or have rental properties, those can be tricky to report correctly. Another one that catches people off guard is 529 plan distributions used for non-qualified expenses - those count as untaxed income. I'd suggest keeping a running list as you go through tax documents, and don't hesitate to ask your school's financial aid office if you're unsure about anything specific. This community has been such a lifesaver for understanding these confusing rules!

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Yuki Ito

As someone new to this community and currently navigating the FAFSA process myself, I just wanted to chime in with a quick tip that might help others. I found the IRS Data Retrieval Tool really helpful for ensuring I'm reporting the correct information from tax returns. It automatically pulls in the right figures from the IRS, which helps avoid manual entry errors when dealing with things like IRA distributions. For anyone who qualifies to use it, it can save a lot of time and reduce mistakes. Also, I've learned that keeping detailed notes about any unusual income situations (like the retirement distributions discussed here) can be really helpful if you get selected for verification later. The financial aid office will often ask for documentation to support what you reported, so having everything organized from the start makes that process much smoother!

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That's such a helpful tip about the IRS Data Retrieval Tool! As someone just starting this process, I had no idea that tool even existed. It sounds like it could save me a lot of headaches trying to figure out which numbers go where. I'm definitely going to look into using it when I start my applications. The verification documentation tip is really smart too - I can see how having everything organized upfront would be way better than scrambling to find papers later if you get selected. Thanks for sharing these practical tips! This community really seems to have a wealth of knowledge from people who've been through this process before.

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