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Alice Coleman

Can my 18-year-old skip parent information on FAFSA? Didn't qualify for aid last time

So frustrated with this whole FAFSA process. Our daughter is starting college next fall, and we make about $115,000 combined income. Last year my sister's kid had to include parent information and they got ZERO financial aid because my sister and brother-in-law make similar to what we do. What's the point of forcing parents to disclose all our financial info if they're just going to deny aid anyway? Is there any way for my daughter to file as independent so only HER income counts? She only made about $8,500 last year from her part-time job. Seems ridiculous that an 18-year-old legal adult needs mommy and daddy's tax info. Any loopholes or ways around this parent information requirement?

Owen Jenkins

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Unfortunately the FAFSA system is designed to make parents contribute to their kids' education regardless of how 'adult' they are legally. My son tried to file as independent but got rejected. The rules are super strict - your daughter would need to be 24+ years old, married, have dependents of her own, be a veteran, or have documented evidence of being homeless or at risk. Just moving out or parents refusing to pay doesn't count.

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Alice Coleman

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That's so unfair! She's working and paying her own phone bill and car insurance. So basically the government forces us to disclose our personal financial information AND expects us to foot the bill? Why even have her fill out the FAFSA at all then?

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Lilah Brooks

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the whole systems rigged. we make 91k and my kid got nothing. total waste of time. they just wanna know how much money u have so they can squeeze more out of u

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Actually, even if you don't qualify for need-based aid, completing the FAFSA is still important. Many schools require it for merit scholarships, and it's needed to access federal student loans which have better terms than private loans - lower fixed interest rates, income-driven repayment plans, and potential loan forgiveness options.

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Kolton Murphy

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The dependency override exists but is EXTREMELY rare. As a financial aid administrator for 15+ years, I can tell you these are only granted in cases of documented abuse, abandonment, or incarceration of parents. Normal family disagreements about paying for college don't qualify. Even if parents refuse to provide information or pay anything, the student is still considered dependent by federal guidelines. The assumption is that families have primary responsibility for education costs regardless of willingness to pay. Having a $115,000 household income puts you above the cutoff for most need-based aid, but your daughter should still complete the FAFSA because: 1. She'll still qualify for unsubsidized Direct loans ($5,500 freshman year) 2. Some schools have higher income thresholds for institutional aid 3. Some merit scholarships require FAFSA completion 4. Family financial situations can change (job loss, medical expenses) and having FAFSA on file makes adjustments easier

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Alice Coleman

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Thanks for explaining, though I'm still annoyed by the system. Will the unsubsidized loans be in her name or would we as parents have to take those out? And do schools ever make exceptions if the parents have other major expenses like medical bills or caring for grandparents?

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Evelyn Rivera

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Have u tried having her emancipated? My cousin did that and filed without parent info. Worth looking into maybe??

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Kolton Murphy

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This is actually incorrect advice that could cause problems. Legal emancipation must occur BEFORE turning 18, so it's too late for an 18-year-old. Additionally, courts don't grant emancipation simply for financial aid purposes - there must be legitimate welfare concerns. Attempting to claim emancipation fraudulently on FAFSA could result in penalties and having to repay any aid received.

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Julia Hall

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I spent HOURS trying to get through to someone at Federal Student Aid last year with this exact question. Kept getting disconnected or waiting forever. Finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through - they got me connected to an actual FSA agent in about 15 minutes. The agent confirmed what others are saying here - dependency overrides are super rare, but they did tell me about Professional Judgment reviews that financial aid offices can do for special circumstances. You can see how their service works here: https://youtu.be/TbC8dZQWYNQ

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Alice Coleman

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Never heard of this service before. Did they actually help resolve your situation or just get you through to someone?

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Arjun Patel

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Just wanted to say our family went through exactly this. Make too much for aid, but not enough to actually pay $30k+ per year without going into debt. The whole system is messed up! We ended up focusing on schools with good merit scholarships instead since those aren't based on FAFSA. My daughter got $15k/year merit money at her second-choice school which made it way more affordable than her first choice that only offered $5k.

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Alice Coleman

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That's actually really helpful! Did you have to do anything special to get those merit scholarships or did they just offer them based on her application?

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Financial aid counselor here. While the parent information requirement is frustrating for many families, it's based on the federal government's assumption that families have primary responsibility for funding education. However, don't give up completely - here are some routes to explore: 1. Special Circumstances: If you have unusual financial expenses not reflected on taxes (medical bills, caring for elderly parents, multiple children in college), request a Professional Judgment review at your specific college's financial aid office. 2. CSS Profile schools: Some private colleges that require the CSS Profile (different from FAFSA) have more flexible formulas and institutional aid even for higher-income families. 3. Merit aid strategies: Many colleges offer substantial merit scholarships based on GPA/test scores regardless of financial need. Some schools automatically consider applicants, while others require separate scholarship applications. 4. Student loans: Direct Unsubsidized loans ($5,500 for freshmen) are available to all students regardless of need and are in the student's name only. I recommend scheduling appointments with financial aid offices at each specific school your daughter is considering. Aid packages can vary dramatically between institutions even with identical FAFSA information.

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Alice Coleman

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This is really helpful, thank you! We do have some unusual expenses including my mother-in-law's assisted living costs that aren't tax deductible. Would schools consider that? And are there specific schools known for giving better merit aid to students with good-but-not-exceptional stats (3.8 GPA, 1320 SAT)?

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Julia Hall

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After helping both my kids through this process, I learned that the parent information requirement on FAFSA is actually *meant* to distribute limited federal aid resources to students with greatest need. At $115k, your family income is in the top 20% nationally, which is why you're unlikely to qualify for need-based aid. When you file the FAFSA, they calculate your SAI (Student Aid Index, previously called EFC) which is what they estimate your family can contribute. You can still qualify for non-need-based federal loans, which have better terms than private loans.

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Lilah Brooks

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115k may be top 20% nationally but in expensive areas thats barely middle class. try living in california or ny on that with 2 kids. system doesnt even account for cost of living!

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Alice Coleman

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Thanks everyone for the insights. Still annoyed at the system but at least I understand it better now. We'll look into merit scholarships and those unsubsidized loans. And I'll definitely have her complete the FAFSA anyway just to keep options open. I appreciate all the help!

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Kolton Murphy

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One last tip: have her apply to some schools where her academic credentials would put her in the top 25% of their applicant pool. Schools often offer their best merit aid to students who raise their academic profile. Good luck with everything!

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Daniela Rossi

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As someone who just went through this process with my own daughter, I completely understand your frustration! The parent information requirement feels unfair, especially when you're legally adults at 18 but still treated as dependents for financial aid. One thing that helped us was casting a wider net with college applications. We focused heavily on schools where my daughter's stats put her in their top 25% of applicants - these schools were much more generous with merit aid to attract students who would boost their academic profile. Also, don't overlook your state schools - many have excellent honors programs with additional scholarship opportunities. The FAFSA is definitely worth completing even if you don't expect need-based aid. Those federal student loans have much better terms than private loans, and some schools require FAFSA completion even for merit scholarships. It's frustrating that the system doesn't account for regional cost of living differences, but unfortunately that's just how it works right now.

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Javier Torres

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This is such great advice about targeting schools where your daughter would be in the top 25%! I hadn't really thought about that strategy. Do you have any suggestions for how to research which schools might be good matches for her stats? And did you find that state schools were significantly more affordable even without much aid, or was it mainly the honors program scholarships that made the difference?

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Emma Davis

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I'm new to this whole financial aid process and feeling pretty overwhelmed! My family is in a similar income bracket and I'm starting to realize we probably won't qualify for much need-based aid either. Can someone explain what the difference is between subsidized and unsubsidized loans? I keep seeing these terms mentioned but I'm not sure which ones we'd actually be eligible for. Also, when people mention "merit scholarships," are these something you apply for separately from regular college applications, or do most schools automatically consider you? Thanks for any guidance - this community has already been so helpful in understanding how all this works!

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Sophia Carson

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Welcome to the process! It can definitely feel overwhelming at first. Let me break down the loan types for you: Subsidized loans are need-based - the government pays the interest while you're in school, but with your family's income bracket you probably won't qualify. Unsubsidized loans are available to everyone regardless of income - you're responsible for all interest but can defer payments until after graduation. These start at $5,500 for freshmen. For merit scholarships, it varies by school! Some automatically consider all applicants based on GPA/test scores, while others require separate applications with essays or portfolios. When researching schools, check their financial aid websites - they usually list their scholarship opportunities and deadlines. Don't forget to look at your state schools too - many have generous merit programs for in-state students. You've got this!

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I'm going through this exact same situation right now! My family makes around $120k and we're just starting to navigate the FAFSA process for our oldest. It's so frustrating to feel stuck in that middle ground where you make "too much" for aid but not nearly enough to comfortably pay $30k+ per year out of pocket. Reading through all these responses has been really eye-opening though. I had no idea that completing the FAFSA was still worthwhile even without qualifying for need-based aid - the unsubsidized loan option and merit scholarship requirements make it worth doing. I'm also definitely going to look into that strategy of applying to schools where our daughter would be in the top 25% of applicants for better merit aid chances. One question for the financial aid professionals here - is there a good resource or website where we can research and compare merit scholarship offerings across different schools? It sounds like this varies so much from institution to institution that it would be helpful to have some way to research this systematically rather than checking each school's website individually.

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Daniel Rivera

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Great question about merit scholarship resources! While there isn't one comprehensive database that covers everything, here are some helpful tools I've found: College Navigator (nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator) lets you search schools and see their average merit aid amounts. BigFuture by College Board and Cappex also have scholarship search features. Many schools publish their merit scholarship criteria right on their financial aid websites - look for terms like "Presidential Scholars" or "Dean's List" awards. Also consider reaching out directly to admissions offices at schools you're interested in. They're usually happy to discuss their merit aid programs and can give you a realistic sense of what your daughter might qualify for based on her stats. Some schools even have net price calculators that include estimated merit aid, not just need-based aid. The research takes time but it's definitely worth it to find those schools that might offer substantial merit money!

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I'm dealing with this exact same frustration! My family's income is similar to yours and I've been dreading the FAFSA process because I know we won't qualify for much. But after reading through all these responses, I'm realizing there are still good reasons to complete it - especially for those unsubsidized federal loans and potential merit scholarship requirements. What really stood out to me was the advice about targeting schools where your daughter would be in the top 25% of applicants for better merit aid opportunities. That's such a smart strategy that I hadn't considered before. It sounds like the key is doing your homework on each school's merit scholarship programs and deadlines, since they vary so much. The whole system definitely feels unfair for middle-income families who are stuck in that gap between qualifying for aid and being able to easily afford college costs. But at least now I have a better understanding of how to work within the system rather than just being frustrated by it. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and expertise!

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Everett Tutum

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I'm so glad this conversation has been helpful for you too! I was feeling the exact same way when I first started researching this process - that frustrating middle-income squeeze where you don't qualify for need-based aid but college costs are still a major financial challenge. One thing I've learned from other parents in our situation is to also look into your state's 529 education savings plan if you haven't already. Even if you're starting late in the game, any tax-advantaged savings can help. Some states even offer tax deductions for contributions. It won't solve the immediate problem but every little bit helps when you're looking at those college bills! Also, don't forget to have your daughter apply for outside scholarships too - local community organizations, employers, professional associations, etc. Even smaller $500-1000 scholarships can add up over four years. The competition is often less intense than the big national scholarships, and every dollar helps when you're paying out of pocket.

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I'm in almost the exact same boat as you with a similar household income and an 18-year-old starting college next year! The whole system really does feel rigged against middle-class families - we make too much for aid but not enough to easily afford $30k+ per year without taking on debt ourselves. After reading through everyone's responses here, I'm realizing we need to shift our strategy completely. Instead of focusing on trying to get around the parent information requirement (which sounds nearly impossible), we should be looking at schools where our daughter's stats would put her in their top tier for merit scholarships. I had no idea that some schools automatically consider all applicants for merit aid based on GPA and test scores. The advice about still completing the FAFSA for those unsubsidized federal loans is really valuable too - I was ready to skip it entirely thinking it was pointless, but those loan terms are apparently much better than private options. Sometimes you just need to hear from people who've been through the process to understand what's actually worth pursuing versus what's just wishful thinking!

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Mateo Sanchez

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I'm so glad to see other families in similar situations! This whole thread has been incredibly eye-opening for me too. I was feeling so defeated about the whole college funding process, but now I have a much clearer roadmap. One thing I want to add that might help others - I just discovered that some colleges have separate application deadlines for merit scholarships that are earlier than their regular admission deadlines. So if you're planning to pursue that strategy of targeting schools where your child would be a top applicant, make sure to check those scholarship deadlines carefully! I almost missed a few because I was only looking at the general application dates. Also, for anyone feeling overwhelmed by researching all the different merit aid programs, I found it helpful to create a simple spreadsheet tracking each school's merit scholarship opportunities, requirements, and deadlines. It takes some time upfront but makes it much easier to stay organized and make sure you don't miss anything important.

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JaylinCharles

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I'm just starting to research this whole process for my daughter who's a junior in high school, and honestly this thread has been more helpful than anything I've found online so far! It's reassuring to know that other families are dealing with the same frustrations about being in that middle-income bracket. The strategy about targeting schools where your child would be in the top 25% of applicants for better merit aid really makes sense. I'm wondering though - how do you actually find out what those statistics are for different schools? Do most colleges publish their average GPA and test score ranges for admitted students, or is this information you have to dig for? Also, I keep seeing references to the CSS Profile in addition to FAFSA. Should families in our income range be looking at schools that use CSS Profile, or does that just add another layer of complexity without much benefit? Thanks for sharing all your experiences - it's helping me feel less overwhelmed about starting this process!

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Great questions! For finding those admission statistics, most colleges publish their "Common Data Set" which includes the 25th-75th percentile ranges for GPA and test scores of admitted students. You can usually find this by searching "[School Name] Common Data Set" or checking their admissions website under sections like "Class Profile" or "Freshman Statistics." College Navigator (mentioned earlier) also has this info in an easy-to-compare format. Regarding CSS Profile - it's worth considering schools that use it even at your income level! While CSS Profile requires more detailed financial information, many private schools that use it have their own institutional aid funds and sometimes more generous formulas than FAFSA alone. They might consider factors like multiple children in college, high housing costs in your area, or other circumstances that FAFSA doesn't account for. Plus, many of the schools with the best merit aid programs happen to use CSS Profile anyway. You're smart to start researching as a junior - gives you more time to build that target school list strategically!

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