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What is considered full time for unemployment benefits in Washington ESD?

I'm really confused about the full-time work rules for unemployment. I've been getting benefits for 2 months now and I'm scared I might mess something up. If I work 32 hours one week, does that count as full-time and disqualify me? What about 35 hours? I've been keeping track of everything but I can't find a clear answer on the Washington ESD website. Some people say 30 hours, others say 40. I really need to know because I have a temp job opportunity that might be 30-35 hours a week and I don't want to lose my benefits if it doesn't work out.

In Washington state, there isn't a specific 'full-time' hour threshold that automatically disqualifies you from unemployment benefits. What matters is your gross earnings compared to your weekly benefit amount. You can work part-time and still receive partial benefits as long as your earnings don't exceed your weekly benefit amount plus $5.

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So it's based on earnings, not hours? That makes more sense. My weekly benefit is $487, so I could earn up to $492 and still get something?

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Exactly! If you earn less than your weekly benefit amount plus $5, you'll get partial benefits. The formula is: weekly benefit amount minus (gross earnings minus $5). So if you earn $300, you'd get $487 - ($300 - $5) = $192 in benefits.

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i thought it was 32 hours or something? thats what my friend told me when she was on unemployment last year

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There's no specific hour limit in Washington. Your friend might have been thinking of a different rule or mixing up state policies. It's all about the money you earn, not the hours you work.

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oh ok that makes sense. she was always getting confused about the rules anyway lol

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The key thing to remember is you MUST report ALL work and earnings on your weekly claim, regardless of hours. Even if you work just 5 hours, report it. Washington ESD will calculate your partial benefits automatically. Don't try to guess whether you should report it or not - always report.

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Yeah I've been reporting everything, even small odd jobs. Better safe than sorry with overpayments.

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This is so important! I know someone who got hit with a huge overpayment because they didn't report some part-time work thinking it 'didn't count.

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But what if the temp job turns into something permanent? Like if they offer me full-time after a few weeks?

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If you accept a permanent full-time position, you'd stop filing weekly claims since you're no longer unemployed. The transition week you'd report your earnings and that would likely be your last claim.

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Got it. So I could try the temp work and see how it goes without losing my claim eligibility completely?

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Exactly. As long as you're still partially unemployed and earning less than your weekly benefit amount plus $5, you can continue filing for partial benefits.

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I'm dealing with something similar. Been doing gig work (DoorDash, Instacart) and trying to figure out how to report those earnings. Some weeks I make $200, other weeks $50. It's so inconsistent.

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Report your actual gross earnings for each week, whatever the amount. Gig work counts as self-employment income and must be reported when you receive it, not when you perform the work.

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Thanks! I've been tracking everything in a spreadsheet just in case.

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Does anyone know if there are different rules for standby status? I'm on standby waiting for my employer to call me back.

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Standby status has different rules. You can work for other employers while on standby, but you still need to report all earnings. The same earnings formula applies - it's not about hours worked.

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Good to know. My employer said they might have work in a few weeks but nothing definite.

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The Washington ESD system is so confusing! Why can't they just give clear examples on their website instead of all this legal jargon?

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RIGHT?? I've spent so much time trying to decode their website. It's like they don't want people to understand the rules.

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I had a week where I worked 45 hours but only made $400 because it was low-paying retail. Still got partial benefits because my earnings were under the limit. Hours don't matter at all.

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Wow, 45 hours and still got benefits? That really proves it's all about the money, not the time.

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Yep! I was worried about reporting it but glad I did. Washington ESD calculated everything correctly and I got like $150 in partial benefits that week.

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Just to add another data point - I worked 25 hours one week and made $600, which was over my benefit amount. Got zero benefits that week, but I could still file the next week normally. It's week by week.

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That's helpful to know. So one high-earning week doesn't mess up future weeks?

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Nope! Each week is calculated separately. I've had weeks with no benefits and weeks with full benefits depending on my earnings.

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What about benefits like health insurance or 401k matching? Do those count toward the earnings calculation?

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No, only gross wages count. Benefits like health insurance, 401k contributions, or other non-cash compensation don't count toward your earnings for unemployment purposes.

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Thanks! I was overthinking this. Just worried about doing something wrong and having to pay money back.

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I remember being so stressed about this when I first started working while on unemployment. Turns out it's way more flexible than I thought. Just be honest about your earnings and let Washington ESD do the math.

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Yeah, I'm feeling much better about taking that temp job now. Thanks everyone for the advice!

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Good luck with the temp work! Hope it leads to something permanent.

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One more thing - make sure you're still doing your job search activities even if you're working part-time. That requirement doesn't go away unless you're working full-time hours.

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Oh right, I need to keep logging job searches in WorkSourceWA. Almost forgot about that requirement.

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Exactly! Three job search activities per week unless you're exempt or working 30+ hours consistently.

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Has anyone had issues with employers not understanding the partial unemployment thing? My potential employer seemed confused when I mentioned I might still file for partial benefits.

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Some employers don't understand how partial unemployment works. You might want to explain that it's completely legal and doesn't affect them - it's just reducing your benefit amount based on what you earn.

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Good point. I'll make sure they understand it's not their responsibility, just mine to report accurately.

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For anyone still confused, I found the Washington ESD handbook really helpful once I finally found it buried on their website. It has examples of different scenarios with the earnings calculations.

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Could you share a link? I've been looking for something with actual examples.

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I'll try to find it again. It was in the claimant handbook section, but their website navigation is terrible.

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This is another reason I liked using Claimyr - the agent could explain specific scenarios without me having to hunt through their website for hours.

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This thread has been super helpful! I'm in a similar situation and was panicking about the hours vs earnings thing. One quick question though - if I'm working variable hours week to week (like sometimes 15 hours, sometimes 35 hours), do I need to notify ESD about the schedule changes or just report my actual earnings each week? I keep seeing conflicting info about whether you need to report "significant changes" in work status.

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You don't need to separately notify ESD about schedule changes - just report your actual earnings each week when you file your claim. The system is designed to handle variable income situations like yours. As long as you're accurately reporting what you earned each week, that's all they need. The "significant changes" thing usually refers to major changes like starting a new permanent job or becoming unavailable for work, not normal fluctuations in part-time hours.

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