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What happens if I claim Washington ESD unemployment while working - need advice

I'm really confused about the rules and wondering what happens if someone claims unemployment benefits while working. I started a part-time job last week (about 15 hours) but I'm still filing my weekly claims because I thought you could work part-time and still get some benefits. Now I'm worried I might be doing something wrong. My friend said Washington ESD could come after me for fraud but I honestly don't know if I'm supposed to report this work or stop claiming altogether. Has anyone been in this situation? What are the actual consequences if you mess this up?

You absolutely NEED to report all work and earnings on your weekly claim. Working while on unemployment isn't fraud as long as you report it properly. Washington ESD has specific rules about how much you can earn before your benefits get reduced or stopped completely.

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Thank you! Do you know what the earnings limit is? I'm making about $200 per week at this part-time job.

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It depends on your weekly benefit amount. Generally you can earn up to your weekly benefit amount minus $5 before they start reducing your UI payment.

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this is exactly why i stopped claiming when i found work, even part time. too confusing and scary to mess up

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You don't have to stop claiming if you're working part-time! You just have to report your earnings correctly. Many people work part-time while receiving reduced unemployment benefits.

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yeah but what if you report wrong by accident? seems risky

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I don't want to get into pricing details but it was worth it for me to get actual answers instead of guessing about something this important.

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Never heard of that service but anything that helps you reach Washington ESD sounds good to me

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Here's what actually happens if you claim unemployment while working: 1) If you report your work correctly, Washington ESD will reduce your benefits based on your earnings but you won't be in trouble. 2) If you DON'T report work and they find out later (which they will through wage records), they'll create an overpayment and you'll have to pay back everything plus penalties. That's when it becomes fraud.

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How do they find out about unreported work? Do employers report to them automatically?

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Yes, employers report wages quarterly to Washington ESD. They cross-reference this with benefit payments, so unreported work always gets caught eventually.

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This is good info. I was wondering about this too since I might get some freelance work soon.

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THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO CATCH PEOPLE! They make the rules so confusing on purpose then hit you with penalties when you mess up. I know someone who got hit with a $4000 overpayment because they reported their hours wrong for like 3 weeks.

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While the system can be confusing, the rules are actually pretty clear if you read them carefully. You just have to report ALL work and earnings every week, no exceptions.

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Easy to say when you're not the one dealing with Washington ESD bureaucracy every week!

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wait so can you work full time and still get unemployment? asking for a friend lol

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No, if you're working full-time you're not eligible for unemployment benefits. You have to be unemployed or underemployed (working reduced hours) to qualify.

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ok good to know thanks

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Just to be super clear about the consequences: Reporting work = legal and proper, you might get reduced benefits. NOT reporting work = fraud, overpayment, penalties, possible criminal charges in severe cases. Always report everything, even if it's just a few hours of work.

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What counts as 'work' that needs to be reported? Like if I sell something on Facebook marketplace?

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Generally any work for pay needs to be reported, including self-employment income. Check the Washington ESD handbook for specific guidelines on different types of income.

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I made this mistake early in my claim and panicked when I realized I hadn't been reporting some casual work. Called Washington ESD immediately to correct it and they just adjusted my benefits going forward. Being honest and proactive goes a long way.

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How did you get through to them on the phone? I've been trying for days.

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I actually used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Made the whole process much easier than trying to get through myself.

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My cousin got caught not reporting work and ended up owing like $3500 back to Washington ESD. They're garnishing his wages now. Don't mess around with this stuff.

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Yikes, that's scary. How long before they caught him?

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Maybe 6 months? They sent him a letter saying they found unreported wages and demanding repayment immediately.

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The key thing people don't understand is that working while on unemployment isn't automatically bad - it's the NOT REPORTING that gets you in trouble. I've been working part-time throughout my entire claim and everything's been fine because I report every penny.

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This is really reassuring. I was starting to think I needed to quit my part-time job to keep getting benefits.

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Definitely don't quit! Part-time work while looking for full-time is actually encouraged by Washington ESD.

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does anyone know if tips count as earnings that need to be reported? i picked up a few shifts waiting tables

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Yes, tips count as earnings and must be reported. All income from work needs to be included in your weekly claim.

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ugh ok thanks. this is more complicated than i thought

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I went through an overpayment situation and it was horrible. They wanted everything back immediately and wouldn't work with me on a payment plan. Took months to resolve and tons of stress. Just report everything from day one!

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Did you eventually get it sorted out? That sounds really stressful.

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Yeah but it took forever and dealing with Washington ESD appeals process. Not worth the hassle when you could just report correctly from the start.

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The reporting process is actually pretty straightforward once you understand it. On your weekly claim, there's a section asking about work and earnings. You enter the gross amount you earned that week, and the system automatically calculates how it affects your benefits.

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So I should report my earnings for the week I actually worked, not when I get paid?

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Yes, report earnings for the week you performed the work, regardless of when you receive payment.

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been there done that with the overpayment thing. they found out about unreported work from 8 months earlier and hit me with penalties on top of having to pay it all back. not fun

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How much were the penalties on top of what you owed?

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they added like 15% penalty plus interest. turned a $1200 overpayment into almost $1500

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If you're unsure about your specific situation, I'd really recommend trying to talk to someone at Washington ESD directly. I know the phones are terrible but there are services like Claimyr that can help you get through. Better to get official guidance than guess wrong.

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I think I'm going to try that Claimyr thing. This is too important to mess up.

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Smart move. Getting real answers from Washington ESD beats worrying about it.

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Bottom line: Report ALL work, even if it's just one hour. Report it honestly and accurately. Let Washington ESD calculate how it affects your benefits. Don't try to hide anything because they WILL find out eventually.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I feel much better about my situation now and know what I need to do.

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Good luck! Reporting work correctly is the right thing to do and keeps you out of trouble.

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Just want to add that if you realize you made a mistake in past claims, contact Washington ESD immediately to correct it. They're much more lenient if you self-report errors versus them discovering unreported work later.

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This is important advice. Being proactive about mistakes shows good faith.

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Agreed, honesty goes a long way with Washington ESD from what I've seen.

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The fraud consequences are serious but only apply if you intentionally try to hide work. Honest mistakes that you report and correct usually just result in benefit adjustments, not penalties.

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That's reassuring to know. I was worried that any mistake would be treated as fraud.

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No, they distinguish between honest errors and intentional fraud. Intent matters in these cases.

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For anyone reading this later - always keep good records of your work hours and earnings while on unemployment. Having documentation makes everything easier if questions come up later.

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Good point about keeping records. I keep a simple spreadsheet with dates, hours, and earnings.

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Documentation is key. Makes reporting easier and protects you if there are ever questions.

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really helpful thread! i was confused about this too but now i understand the rules better. report everything and be honest = no problems

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Exactly! The rules aren't that complicated once you understand the basic principle.

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Glad this thread helped clarify things for people. Working while on unemployment is totally legal when done correctly.

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